| IVOD_ID |
168109 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168109 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T09:20:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T09:29:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c2b3b89fcacd247a38b964e64394a70074047e563c2ae1609eb3679e204ee1bbe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:20:34 - 09:29:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況（含上會期臨時提案辦理情形），並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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我先請這個宋董事長委員好宋董事長,我想先請問一下我們這個客家廣播電台這個全台灣的涵蓋率你們覺得如何? |
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目前在北部的涵蓋收聽率是比較高的我沒有問你收聽率,我只問你涵蓋率 |
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涵蓋是全島都有這個都能夠收聽所有的客庄我們都有在監測你們現在的頻道都是FM嘛對不對但你也知道有些客庄是在比較山上其實他的收聽的很不清晰有的地方會很難收聽得到你們有知道嗎 |
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有,我們有在做一個準備做一個調查就是各地的收聽品質的部分那我本人我也是在各地走的時候我也會去監測當地的收聽的環境的確有一些地方不太理想另外因為我們拿到的頻道是就是台北 |
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雙北這邊的頻率105.9那桃竹是105.7然後到苗栗台中南投這邊又是104.3 101.5然後再下去又104.3等等這個大家都知道啦他每天在那邊他都知道頻率在哪裡我現在跟你說的就是有一些比較山區比較什麼的 |
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他根本就是收訊的狀況品質不怎麼好嘛對啊,這個你知道嗎?了解像比如說我們在苗栗那邊我們的發射台在火炎山那但是像我們比較靠近台三線的大湖那邊就是他的收聽狀況不理想所以我們就會設置這個補戲台 |
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使得那邊的收聽的情況更加在乎我知道啦我只問你像有很多地方收聽情況並不是很好的情況你知道了嗎你知不知道我們知道有相當一部分的對嘛我也是很多人跟我反映啊對不對他在山區他在什麼根本就收聽想要聽也聽不到聽不清楚嘛 |
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這個你知道嘛 知道那可能想辦法去改善 不然花了這麼多錢那我們的客家鄉親他要聽反而都聽不到啊甚至是不是有可能跟有一些AM的電台合作嘛他就有可能聽得到了嘛你如果跟他合作 你反而不用自己再花很多錢啊 |
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你也知道有這種情況,有這種情況不是今天我覺得想辦法去把它改善,既然我們有製作這麼多的節目,我們客家鄉親聽不到這個我覺得做了這麼多結果聽不到 |
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很可惜啦所以我希望你們可以去改善這個問題啦好不好是非常認同委員指教好謝謝那來我再請谷主委早一點齁主委這個齁 |
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我們從以前我就一直在講這個要推動這個課語方便什麼主委現在AI的這個應用非常的普及然後你看有很多用AI去學英文去什麼的這種也非常的多那我們科委會有沒有想過要來開發一個程式或什麼讓我們一般人想要學課語或什麼 |
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我透過APP或什麼的然後我就可以即時對話我就可以很方便來學客語我們有沒有這個想法 |
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感謝議員的指教,目前我們對於它的部分課程,有慢慢的在推動包括它的口機的導入,也要再創業的,目前已經在進行,沒錯,也要設備技術等等,很在進行所以你們有在做了?有,有在做那大概多久可以? |
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可以讓民眾去使用如果民眾使用,要不要付費? |
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目前我們傾向不付費,因為公共的資源,除非是藥填入國土用藥土,這個就要最主要的,背後其實雨衣雨尿褲要建置得非常龐大、非常完整,一樣有法徒推動所以這個建置其實是一直在持續,在經行當中所以我們預計是今年年底,那個客滑對應等等的系統會出來 |
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不不不克華對義的系統那個是另外一個系統我現在所說的是其實現在的技術啊應該都做得到你看人家那個英語教學的英語什麼的那個用AI然後跟你這個即時對話即時什麼這個來練習是很快的我的意思是說人家商業都已經這樣做了那我們客委會有這麼多 |
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376.838 |
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的資源那我們也要積極推廣這個我的意思是開發一個很簡單的APP的一個程式然後讓所有的人只要想的我就可以上啊對不對然後我就可以隨時隨地我就可以練習客語啊學客語啊 |
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395.872 |
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我覺得這個就像主委講的那個資料庫那個什麼可能是比較複雜的然後我們還有很多的不同的腔調這個有可能你們會比較複雜前期的前置座位會比較久但我覺得 |
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432.99 |
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這個是做得到的,而且我也不認為要花很多錢如果要花很多錢,這些人家商業用,他怎麼可能會有獲利呢所以我的意思是說,開發像這樣的程式讓大家免費可以去隨時隨地去講客家話、去學客家話我的意思是這個欸,主委 |
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435.431 |
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456.326 |
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我認為現在體育過後,我們要做最重要的,因為我們在過去幾十年和未來重啟以來,事實和我們的語音、語料的部分已經累積到一定的程度了,要運用,要做的運用,維研所提的就是運用體AI的部分,這確實是我們的目標 |
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我是這樣啦你們可以跟教育部一起合作這個開發出來的大家都一起共用的那你要做到100%你才要上線我覺得也沒有必要啦對不對一般的對話一般的什麼的這個 |
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有差不多的就可以了啊,你就慢慢補足啊,也讓大家知道啊我覺得這就可以做了啊我是覺得主委這個,如果你也認同這樣的話,剛剛我覺得你也認同嘛那我們就你們試試看,來做做看嘛現在我們有AI主播啦,但是很忙對話AI對話可以再推進,再往前推進 |
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我再說一下不好意思這個你現在去上網上很多學英文的都有了這太多了那只是要資料庫進去而已我不認為這是很困難的我也不認為這要花很多錢如果要花很多錢他商業的使用他要賺什麼 |
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那我們既然有這個資源我們來做我覺得花不了多少錢讓所有的而且你做這個不是只有給台灣喔全世界的客家人全世界都可以用我們這個APP喔對不對我覺得這個你可以思考一下好 感謝美燕好 謝謝感謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:37.851000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:20:51.595000+08:00 |
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我先請宋董事長。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:51.595000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-04-01T09:20:51.795000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-04-01T09:20:52.915000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:02.678000+08:00 |
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宋董事長，我想先請問一下，客家廣播電臺在全臺灣的涵蓋率，你們覺得如何？ |
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0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:04.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:09.341000+08:00 |
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目前在北部的涵蓋收聽率是比較高的，我們有做…… |
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0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:09.441000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:14.512000+08:00 |
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不是，我沒有問你收聽率，我只問你涵蓋率。 |
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0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-01T09:21:16.780000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:25.386000+08:00 |
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全島都有涵蓋，都能夠收聽，針對所有的客庄，我們都有在監測…… |
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0.84 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:21:25.386000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-01T09:21:31.190000+08:00 |
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你們現在頻道都是FM嘛，對不對？對。 |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:21:31.190000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:21:44.359000+08:00 |
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但你也知道有些客庄是在比較山上，其實它的收聽很不清晰，有的地方會很難收聽得到，你們知道嗎？有。 |
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0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
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2026-04-01T09:21:44.879000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:21:53.501000+08:00 |
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我們有在準備做一個調查，就是各地收聽品質的部分。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
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2026-04-01T09:21:55.441000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-01T09:22:03.003000+08:00 |
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我本人在各地走的時候，也會去監測當地的收聽環境，的確有一些地方不太理想。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:03.563000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:26.483000+08:00 |
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另外，因為我們拿到的頻道，雙北頻率是105.9、桃竹是105.7，而苗栗、臺中、南投是101.5，再往南是104.3等。 |
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0.833 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:26.924000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:27.824000+08:00 |
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這個大家都知道啦！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-01T09:22:28.364000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:31.025000+08:00 |
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它每天在那邊，大家都知道頻率在哪裡。 |
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0.812 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:31.025000+08:00 |
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我現在要跟你說的，就是有一些比較山區的收訊狀況及品質，根本不怎麼好嘛！是。對啊！ |
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0.743 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:44.581000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:45.882000+08:00 |
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這個你知道嗎？了解。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
宋董事長廷棟 |
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2026-04-01T09:22:47.303000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:09.418000+08:00 |
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比如我們在苗栗的發射臺是在火炎山，但是像比較靠近台3線大湖那邊的收聽狀況不理想，所以我們就會設置補隙臺，使得收聽的情況可以改善。 |
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0.881 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:09.899000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:10.519000+08:00 |
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不是啦……我知道啦！ |
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0.571 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:10.899000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:17.902000+08:00 |
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我只是問你，還有很多地方的收聽情況並不是很好，你知道了嘛，你知不知道？ |
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0.871 |
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宋董事長廷棟 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:19.143000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:21.564000+08:00 |
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我們知道有相當一部分的……對嘛！ |
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1 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:23.064000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:25.766000+08:00 |
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也是有很多人跟我反映啊，對不對？了解。 |
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0.812 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:25.766000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:35.510000+08:00 |
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他在山區根本想要聽也聽不到、聽不清楚，這個你知道嘛？知道。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:36.391000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:43.276000+08:00 |
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可能要想辦法去改善，不然花了這麼多錢，我們的客家鄉親要聽，反而都聽不到啊！ |
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0.97 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:43.276000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:44.656000+08:00 |
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對不對？ |
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0 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:44.656000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:53.182000+08:00 |
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甚至是不是跟一些AM的電臺合作，就有可能聽得到了嘛！ |
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1 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:54.403000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:23:57.545000+08:00 |
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如果跟他合作，反而自己不用再花很多錢，對不對？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:00.167000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:04.171000+08:00 |
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你也知道有這種情況了，有這種情況不是今天啦！ |
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0.9 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:05.853000+08:00 |
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我覺得要想辦法去改善，既然製作這麼多的節目，我們客家鄉親卻聽不到。 |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:11.458000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:20.928000+08:00 |
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你做了這麼多，結果聽不到，很可惜啦！ |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:21.708000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:24.711000+08:00 |
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所以我希望你們可以去改善這個問題，好不好？ |
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1 |
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宋董事長廷棟 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:24.931000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:26.453000+08:00 |
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是，非常認同委員的指教，。 |
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0.9 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:27.214000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:27.834000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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1 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:28.375000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:29.155000+08:00 |
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我再請古主委。 |
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0.833 |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:29.155000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:30.155000+08:00 |
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張委員好。 |
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0 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:24:29.576000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:17.076000+08:00 |
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主委，從以前我就一直在講，要推動客語方便……現在AI的應用非常普及，很多用AI去學英文等等的也非常多，那客委會有沒有想過要來開發一個程式，讓一般人想要學客語可以透過app，然後也可以即時對話，很方便地來學客語，有沒有這個想法？ |
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0.882 |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:18.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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2026-04-01T09:25:19.865000+08:00 |
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感謝委員的指教。 |
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0.857 |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:20.565000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-01T09:25:39.240000+08:00 |
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目前我們對於這個部分確實有慢慢地在推動，包括科技的導入也是很重要的，目前已經在進行，沒錯，現在設備、技術等等部分還在進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:40.401000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:41.662000+08:00 |
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所以你們有在做了？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-01T09:25:41.902000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:42.563000+08:00 |
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有、有在做。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:43.483000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:48.248000+08:00 |
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大概多久可以讓民眾去使用？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:49.209000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:51.151000+08:00 |
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如果民眾使用，要不要付費？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:25:52.563000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:26:14.896000+08:00 |
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目前我們傾向不付費，因為這是公共的資源，客委會也投入很多，要使用到……最主要的是背後的語音、語料庫要建置的非常龐大、非常完整，才有辦法推動，這個部分的建置其實是一直持續在進行當中，我們預計是今年年底，客華對譯等等的系統會出來。 |
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0.723 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:26:24.425000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:26:44.175000+08:00 |
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客華對譯的系統是另外一個系統，我現在所說的是……其實現在的技術應該都做得到，你看人家的英語教學用AI，然後跟你即時對話，以這個來練習是很快的。 |
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0.938 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:26:44.955000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:04.969000+08:00 |
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我的意思是說，人家商業方面都已經這樣做了，那客委會有這麼多的資源，也要積極推廣這個部分，就是開發一個很簡單的app程式，讓所有的人只要想上就可以上，對不對？ |
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0.873 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:04.969000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:07.711000+08:00 |
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然後就可以隨時隨地練習客語、學客語。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:09.872000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:24.948000+08:00 |
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我覺得就像主委講的，那個資料庫可能是比較複雜的，然後我們還有很多不同的腔調，這個可能會比較複雜，而且前置作業會比較久。 |
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0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:25.669000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:36.139000+08:00 |
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但是我覺得這個是做得到的，而且我也不認為要花很多錢，如果要花很多錢，人家商業用的怎麼可能會有獲利呢？ |
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0.957 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:36.139000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:37.139000+08:00 |
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對不對？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:36.940000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:46.129000+08:00 |
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主委，所以我的意思是說，開發像這樣的程式，讓大家免費可以隨時隨地去講客家話、去學客家話。 |
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0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:46.129000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:53.534000+08:00 |
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我覺得這個提議很好，我們會朝向這個方向進行。 |
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0.25 |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:27:53.534000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:10.326000+08:00 |
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因為我們在過去幾年，客委會長期以來蒐集客家語言、語音、語料，這個部分已經累積到一定的程度了，這個部分的運用就是委員所提的，會運用在AI方面，這個確實是我們的目標。 |
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0.644 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:14.018000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:27.763000+08:00 |
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是這樣啦，你們可以跟教育部一起合作，這個開發出來後大家一起共用，你要做到百分之百才要上線，我覺得也沒有必要，對不對？ |
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0.904 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:27.763000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:33.326000+08:00 |
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一般的對話差不多了，就可以了啊！ |
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0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:33.426000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:38.209000+08:00 |
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你就慢慢補足，也讓大家知道，我覺得這就可以做了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:38.209000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:40.390000+08:00 |
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我們來進行。 |
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0.2 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:40.390000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:44.373000+08:00 |
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我是覺得……主委，如果你也認同這樣的方式，剛剛我覺得你也認同嘛！對。 |
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0.857 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:45.994000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:49.096000+08:00 |
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你們試著來做做看嘛。 |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:49.336000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:55.220000+08:00 |
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現在我們有AI主播，但是還沒有對話，對話的部分，我們可以再往前推進。 |
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0.733 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:28:56.600000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:09.463000+08:00 |
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我再說一下，不好意思，這個部分你現在上網看，很多學英文的都有了，這太多了，那只是要資料庫進去而已，我不認為這是很困難的……了解。 |
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0.909 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:09.703000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:15.625000+08:00 |
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我也不認為要花很多錢，如果要花很多錢，商業使用的要賺什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.962 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:16.905000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:31.315000+08:00 |
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我們既然有這個資源，我們來做，我覺得花不了多少錢，讓所有人……而且做這個不是只有給臺灣喔，全世界的客家人都可以用我們這個app喔！ |
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0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:31.975000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:32.256000+08:00 |
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對不對？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:32.256000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:34.197000+08:00 |
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我覺得這個你可以思考一下。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:35.057000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:35.518000+08:00 |
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好，感謝委員，感謝。 |
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0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:36.578000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:36.879000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-01T09:29:37.379000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:39.379000+08:00 |
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謝謝張宏陸委員。 |
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0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:39.679000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T09:29:43.393286+08:00 |
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接下來請張智倫委員質詢，謝謝。 |
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0 |