| IVOD_ID |
168087 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168087 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T10:11:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T10:19:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c876b6de13725e9b4331a35e1dda586ae4047e563c2ae16090c48c7cb505eef785ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
呂玉玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:11:53 - 10:19:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長就「能源轉型政策下我國產業發展布局，及中東衝突與全球能源供應鏈重組對能源安全之影響與因應策略」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家發展委員會主任委員及經濟部部長就「AI浪潮下台灣傳統製造產業競爭力強化及扶助政策規劃與執行情形」進行報告，並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 請次長 |
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好 次長因為國際能源局勢的震盪我們國內的產業跟民生用電不斷的提高所以我們的政府也要重新的來檢視我們能源政策的合理性也把我們的核能列為選項之一但是本席要在這邊強調我們的再生能源部分我們還是要來重視那現在本來是再生能源在2025年的時候我們達到20%那部長後來也坦言了可能就要二度跳票 |
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但是我們不能無限期的一直延宕所以請問這個20%我們什麼時候可以達到當然這個會隨著我們這個用電的成長因為母樹會成長你就評估說什麼時候 不用講這個細則啦我們會再努力啦 努力就是每年所以無限期延期不會 應該也會很快就會達到因為我們2030年有一個目標 |
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所以你沒有時間表啦 |
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至少去年會講今年啊那你今年不該講什麼時候各種不同的這個綠能包括小水利包括這個所以總評估會什麼時候達成不知道當然我們現在會滾動但是2030年會達到嗎2030年會到百分之三十這樣的目標百分之三十是哪一年達到2030年2030年就要達到對好那你知道2050年要達到多少嗎 |
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你們有一個淨零排放的這個路徑嗎國發會公布的 葉主委 |
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大概60到70左右了好這都是你我們的指標我希望你們能夠努力那本席會這樣子問就是憂心因為美伊這個戰爭不知道什麼時候結束那我們受到中東部分的這個原油的問題我們現在也要分散我們的能源的採購到澳洲跟美國那但是我們跟中東不只是買賣的關係我們還有投資的關係就是卡達我們有投資了北方 |
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棄田東段計畫將近有5%的這個股權109億那現在戰爭一直在發生有沒有在評估我們在這方面的話我們的設備等等這些設備還有這個投資的預算會不會增加 |
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那本來是今年11月會要生產啦 但是後來因為戰事的關係每年會分配40萬桶的 40萬噸的這個40萬噸的天然氣 那現在已經停工了那明年的40萬噸就不可能囉 是不是 |
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會不會 明年會不會我們會再尋找替代替代的這個來源所以明年就不可能有40萬噸的天然氣嗎其實我們會有其他的從其他國家來的本來我們預估明年會分配回來現在沒有辦法分配了那可以知道什麼時候分配回來嗎 |
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我們會不會要增加這個投資的預算 |
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我們要先了解一下這些都要評估出來因為我們現在受到全球能源供給的壓力所以中油這部分也要趕快跟其他的國家簽約但是我們現在看到美國的川普本來是對俄羅斯有制裁所以大家都沒有再跟俄羅斯簽約那現在 |
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我們國家本來2017年到2022年有跟俄羅斯簽約後面就沒有簽約了那現在放寬的時候我們要不要繼續簽約目前是沒有考慮到沒有考慮繼續簽約的部分因為在別的國家已經有採購了是嗎是 我們有其他的來源我們盡量就是說從這個美國從其他這個西非能源的調度 巴西這些國家來調度好 |
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那接下來我們想謝謝那個部長你就先請回我請葉主委 |
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藝術委 委員好AI是我們一直在推的尤其是製造業的AI我們是輔導在輔導那AI現在是新十大建設啦那而且也特別你們國發會有評估出來說如果說AI在2040年可以創造15兆的產值50萬的高薪工作機會這個評估這個目標會不會太過於樂觀你有沒有短中長期的一個計畫有有有 因為就 |
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第一個就是說我們這個設定那個2040年45兆的話其實有一個設算的基礎其實我們會就我們目前比如說到2028年我們會達到哪一個目標那2035年會達到哪一個目標那2040年也會達到所以有短中長期的計畫嗎有有有我們有短中長期你必須有短中長期的話我們才可以知道說你們的成效的一個成果出來對有 |
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那為什麼要這樣子問因為我們看到一般的製造業的AI我們看到製造業我們要輔導的產業全台灣製造業總共有9.96萬家到目前去年11月份你們的資料裡面在產業的輔導你有個產業的輔導團現在輔導的只有526家而且這526家幾乎是大企業 |
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獨厚大企業那一般的中小企業的你們有沒有在輔導這個部分的話我們還是就經濟部的資料來講的話經濟部會持續在推動所謂的輔導中心經濟部我們請問何次長 |
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你們有沒有認真說這個兩端的幾段話其實我們對中小企業最主要還是也輔導中小企業為主可是目前裡面526家我們將近有10萬家的製造業你只有輔導526家這比例原則會讓未來的話沒有跟上的話就被淘汰了跟我們報告我們的報告裡面是有1723家我們已經有協助這麼多的家屬來協助他們做AI技術的運用總共有將近10萬家 |
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對 所以我們現在還是持續在輔導輔導當中所以我們希望你們擴大輔導的這些資源這些能量不然的話沒有跟上去的人就會被淘汰了而且不要都獨厚大企業變成大企業的專利好不好是 謝謝謝謝李議員 |