| IVOD_ID |
168024 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168024 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-30T11:11:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-30T11:17:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d0265d86f2f18c67e36525f079a770e9117671a01da40a13b7080941cab810cc4e85fd41815b697d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:11:19 - 11:17:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請司法院秘書長、法務部部長、內政部警政署就「法院安全秩序維護與法警職權行使」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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呃謝謝主席那我們請司法院的高秘書長那還有這個法務部的張市長好秘書長張市長有請來秘書長好市長好好我想今天的這個專報的題目齁跟這個三月份發生的這個 |
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台中的律師公會理事長在法院裡面被掌裹的事件有關係可是我看了司法院的報告其實你們在114年7月其實就有強化安全的措施有事前預警、高風險通報的SOP、警力盤點跟訓練包含法警的訓練課程等等 |
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哇這個114年就已經有開始這個未雨綢繆結果3月份還發生這種事情所以到底是落實的不夠徹底還是相關的法規還要再做修改如果就單純這個事件是落實的不夠徹底那哪些方面落實的不夠徹底就是第一個 |
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他事先其實知道資訊可是你在事先預防其實我們都有說有給他們事先預防的方法一定要隔絕其實當天如果隔絕就不會有事情發生現場沒有隔絕這是第一個再過來就法警在執行職務的時候過於遲疑其實這個就現行犯嘛就是逮捕嘛他就是遲疑了對 法警訓練也不夠 |
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必須說對於他這個警覺意識的訓練不夠還是我們現在給他的一些法令讓他在執行勤務的時候不是不是 我覺得就是因為有時候可能會讓法警認為說我只要把大家維持好 安安靜靜就好了這種觀念是不是太強了而讓他以為說法警不是當核四老法警是要執行公權力嘛 對不對 |
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所以現行犯就是應該要抓起來這個部分我們真的是深深檢討中好我就想說這個114年你們就有相關的規定出來了沒有落實所以呢這個包含本席在內我們有提出這個律師法的修法那律師法的修法其實這有參照這個醫療法的修法 |
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那我們希望說這個徵定不得已非法的方法,妨害律師執行業務然後刻以刑責啦,那而且對法院地檢署及其他執行職務的場所採取必要的安全防護措施,那我想請教一下這一個我們秘書長,或是我們司長,對於這一個律師法的修法你們的態度咧 |
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我們樂觀其成因為律師他在執行業務上我必須說啦其實律師是為被告辯護那被告的行為有時候可能會讓社會群眾反感那就會把這個恨氣放到律師身上所以律師是應該被保護的我們非常贊成 |
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那 再請教一下就是說 少年事件處理法那現在 因為它要修法的部分很多那我現在就只針對這個塗銷制度來請教一下這個秘書長那 現在的少年事件處理法你只要執行完畢 刑事案件紀錄一律自動除消嘛 對不對那我們現在呢這個司法院有這個修正法它就是說 你有三年的觀察期三年觀察期就是說你有期間內再犯罪一律不准塗銷 |
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但是呢 如果期間內未犯的話呢 一律徒消前科啦你們就是單純用時間啦 用時間來做一個評量標準但是呢 包含這個民進黨 我們有立委包含民間團體有提案 就是說 |
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用這個時間來講的話 這個其實你也沒有分這個大概是輕罪還是重罪那是不是應該我們要分這個輕罪跟重罪如果它是這個是屬於重大刑案的話我們改採就是禁止自動塗銷改採這個動態註記的方式就是我們至少分輕罪跟重罪嘛那不是說時間一到你也不管他之前犯的是輕罪還是重罪我一律塗銷 |
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是其實我們前面提出來版本是沒有因應到最近割喉案所發生其實社會對於肇事法這個老不是講蠻舊的法這個要求我們現在已經在 |
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對於要把它層級化分成五級那有說確定塗銷有一年塗銷有三年塗銷五年塗銷跟七年塗銷看他的再犯的罪值來做一個階層式比較符合比例原則可是你們還是按照年嘛那我剛意思是說是不是按照說他之前犯的罪 |
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他犯的罪如果是屬於重罪的話不是說我一年到了 三年到了 五年到了然後就把他徒消掉這樣子我讓我們那個細節我請我們稍事聽中廳長回答可以嗎 |
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是 委員好剛剛委員的槌詢確實是我們這個觀察期是一個條件之一另外我們會加上他再犯的一個犯罪值的輕重去審查基本上這個年限只是一個條件之一而已如果重罪他所犯都是五年以上的那麼這種 |
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又再換那這個時候要看他再換的最值我們在這七年的觀察期會有不一樣的一個審查條件我們會設計好那可是這個是你們送來版本沒有的嗎對即將要再送進來 |
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即將會再送進來 是 是那會後再把資料再給我一下好了好不好因為現在民間團體也很重視這件事情就是說之前你們就連線那個靜態你沒有去區分說到底是輕罪還是重罪那說再犯的這個可能性是怎麼樣那我覺得要用動態的方式來做處理啦我覺得對於被害者來講這個會比較就是說站在他們立場來考慮這件事情啦好不好好 謝謝 |
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好 謝謝李委員 那麼有關於這個 |
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謝謝主席，我們請司法院的高秘書長，還有法務部的張司長。 |
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秘書長、張司長有請。 |
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秘書長好、司長好。 |
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我想今天這個專報的題目跟3月份發生的臺中律師公會理事長在法院裡面被掌摑的事件有關係，可是我看了司法院的報告，其實你們在114年7月就有強化安全的措施，有事前預警、高風險通報的SOP、警力盤點跟訓練，包含法警的訓練課程等等，114年就已經有開始未雨綢繆，結果3月份還發生這種事情，所以到底是落實得不夠澈底，還是相關的法規還要再做修改？ |
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如果就單純這個事件是落實得不夠澈底。 |
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哪些方面落實得不夠澈底？ |
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第一個，他事先其實知道資訊，可是對於事先預防，我們都有給他們事先預防的方法，一定要隔絕，當天如果隔絕就不會有事情發生，現場沒有隔絕，這是第一個。 |
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再過來就是法警在執行職務的時候過於遲疑，其實這個就是現行犯嘛！ |
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就是逮捕嘛！ |
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他就是遲疑了。 |
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對，法警訓練也不夠。 |
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必須說對於他警覺意識的訓練不夠。 |
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李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:01.765000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:05.389000+08:00 |
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可是我們現在給他的一些法令讓他在執行勤務的時候…… |
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0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:05.689000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:11.174000+08:00 |
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不是、不是，我覺得就是因為有時候可能會讓法警認為說他只要把大家維持好、安安靜靜就好了，這種觀念是不是太強了，而讓他以為說…… |
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0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:11.174000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:11.654000+08:00 |
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法警不是當和事佬。對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:12.175000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-30T11:13:12.976000+08:00 |
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法警是要執行公權力嘛，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:12.976000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-30T11:13:23.205000+08:00 |
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對、對，沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:23.205000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-30T11:13:25.506000+08:00 |
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所以現行犯就是應該要抓起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:25.506000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-30T11:13:27.428000+08:00 |
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對、是，這個部分我們真的是深深檢討中。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:28.148000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:34.073000+08:00 |
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好，114年你們就有相關的規定出來了，沒有落實。是。 |
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0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:34.073000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:13:53.384000+08:00 |
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所以包含本席在內，我們有提出律師法的修法，律師法的修法其實有參照醫療法的修法，我們希望增訂不得以非法的方法妨害律師執行業務，並課以刑責，而且對法院、地檢署及其他執行職務的場所，採取必要的安全防護措施。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-30T11:13:53.685000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:00.048000+08:00 |
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我想請教一下我們秘書長或是司長，對於律師法的修法，你們的態度呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:00.448000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:02.709000+08:00 |
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我們樂觀其成。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:02.709000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:03.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
樂觀其成？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-30T11:14:03.309000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:25.054000+08:00 |
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對，因為律師在執行業務上，我必須說其實律師是為被告辯護，被告的行為有時候可能會讓社會群眾反感，就會把這個恨氣放到律師身上，所以律師是應該被保護的，我們非常贊成。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:26.869000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:44.982000+08:00 |
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好，再請教一下，有關少年事件處理法，因為它要修法的部分很多，我現在就只針對這個塗銷制度來請教一下秘書長，現在的少年事件處理法，你只要執行完畢，刑事案件紀錄一律自動塗銷，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:14:45.502000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:15:19.133000+08:00 |
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現在司法院有修正法，就是你有三年的觀察期，如果期間內再犯罪一律不准塗銷，但是如果期間內未犯的話，一律塗銷前科，你們就是單純用時間來做一個評量的標準，但是我們民進黨有立委、包含民間團體有提案，用時間來講的話，其實你也沒有分到底是輕罪還是重罪，我們是不是應該要分輕罪跟重罪？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:15:19.754000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:15:31.739000+08:00 |
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如果他是屬於重大刑案的話，我們禁止自動塗銷，改採動態註記的方式，我們至少要分輕罪跟重罪嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-30T11:15:32.379000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:15:36.521000+08:00 |
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不是說時間一到，你也不管他之前犯的是輕罪還是重罪就一律塗銷。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-30T11:15:37.703000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:15:57.775000+08:00 |
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是，其實我們前面提出來的版本是沒有因應到最近割喉案的發生，關於社會對於少事法的要求，必須講這是蠻舊的法，我們現在已經要把它層級化，分成五級。五級？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.803 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-30T11:15:58.035000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-30T11:16:10.402000+08:00 |
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對，有確定塗銷、有一年塗銷、有三年塗銷、五年塗銷跟七年塗銷，看他再犯的罪質來做一個階層式比較符合比例原則。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
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2026-03-30T11:16:10.402000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:16:11.683000+08:00 |
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可是你們還是按照年嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-30T11:16:12.063000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:16:17.247000+08:00 |
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我剛才意思是說，是不是要按照說他之前犯的罪？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-30T11:16:17.347000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-30T11:16:22.690000+08:00 |
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如果是屬於重罪的話，不是說一年到了、三年到了、五年到了，然後就把它塗銷掉這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.914 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
高秘書長金枝 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-30T11:16:24.191000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:16:27.693000+08:00 |
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細節我請少事廳鍾廳長回答，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-30T11:16:27.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-30T11:16:30.573000+08:00 |
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好，廳長。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
鍾廳長宗霖 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-30T11:16:30.573000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:16:31.233000+08:00 |
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是，委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
鍾廳長宗霖 |
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2026-03-30T11:16:32.694000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:17:07.102000+08:00 |
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剛剛委員的垂詢確實是，我們這個觀察期是一個條件之一，另外，我們會去加上他再犯的犯罪質的輕重去審查，基本上這個年限只是一個條件之一而已，如果是重罪，他所犯都是五年以上的，這種又再犯，這個時候要看他再犯的罪質，在這七年的觀察期會有不一樣的審查條件，我們會設計好。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:08.244000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:17:09.987000+08:00 |
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可是這個是你們送來的版本沒有的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:09.987000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-30T11:17:10.987000+08:00 |
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對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
鍾廳長宗霖 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:10.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-30T11:17:10.948000+08:00 |
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對，即將要再送進來。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:13.051000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:17:14.231000+08:00 |
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即將要再送進來？是。好啊！ |
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0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:16.372000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-30T11:17:18.713000+08:00 |
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會後你再把資料給我一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:19.053000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:17:31.737000+08:00 |
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因為現在民間團體也很重視這件事情，之前你們用年限，那是靜態，你沒有去區分到底是輕罪還是重罪，針對再犯的可能性是怎麼樣，我覺得要用動態的方式來做處理啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:32.498000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:17:38.280000+08:00 |
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對於被害者來講，會比較站在他們的立場來考慮這件事情，好不好？是。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
李委員坤城 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:38.300000+08:00 |
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2026-03-30T11:17:38.320000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:41.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-30T11:17:42.067000+08:00 |
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謝謝李委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-30T11:17:42.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-30T11:18:17.138429+08:00 |
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有關於對於妨害律師執行職務的相關處罰以及課予刑責的部分，現在民進黨委員以及包含本席在內，我們其實都有提了相關的修法，當然也很希望法務部還有司法院能夠支持，我也會在近期之內有機會的話可能會來排法案的逐條審查，如果法務部這邊也有提案的話，也請可以儘速提出，謝謝。 |
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0.033 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-30T11:18:17.438429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-30T11:18:19.724143+08:00 |
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我們中間休息5分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-30T11:18:20.024143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-30T11:18:21.167000+08:00 |
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休息（11時18分） |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-30T11:18:21.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-30T11:18:23.181286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
繼續開會（11時23分） |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-30T11:18:23.481286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-30T11:18:25.767000+08:00 |
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我們現在繼續開會。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-30T11:18:26.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-30T11:18:28.924143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
接下來有請洪孟楷委員。 |
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0 |