| IVOD_ID |
167933 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167933 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T13:24:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T13:32:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baae043ddc71695d15442ba03baa58d693137d3a61a6651d0c5360397b764e3c89ef5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:24:47 - 13:32:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力公司董事長就「核二、核三廠自主安全檢查現況與再運轉計畫及政府『重啟核電三原則』之歷年進度與現況說明」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席有請工部長也請台電的曾董事長有請工部長跟曾董事長 |
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好 兩位因為外圍只有四分鐘真的很急執政當然要有肩膀但是再也絕對不要包牌核管法誰修的立法院修的誰是國會多數藍白是國會多數當初核管法的文字不管是德或是英行政部門依法行政怎麼會現在通過這個法案的國民黨的委員反過來你們做也罵 |
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不做也罵我覺得這種包牌不太好啦今天我們進入我想要垂尋的主題就是二次能源轉型是現在的進行式我們追求的是能源的多元化而核電只是其一 |
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核電不是唯一而核電還包括SMR新式核電新式技術的研發應用還有才回到過去廚藝的核電廠有沒有可能再重啟再安全這一關過不過得了所以我希望大家聚焦能源多元化才是王道如果只看到核電這一項只獨壓核電這一項這不是我們的政策 |
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現在進行是下一頁非核家園上路312天到今天到今天為止我們的每日備轉的容量是還維持在10%超過10所以非核家園上路現在有缺電嗎 |
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沒有是這是事實所以非核家園也已經上路了也是依據立法院相關的政策朝野的溝通所以呢非核家園的上路312天現在已經非核了312天沒有缺點我們的政策沒有跳票也不要去操作政策在轉彎這件事我們看下一頁 |
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作為負責任的執政黨 能源就是國力 國際的能源挑戰是日益加劇No one is outsider 世界各國都在因應包括台灣因應地緣政治 中東戰事或惡霧戰爭 所以地緣政治衝擊了能源安全 |
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因應淨零排放要求所有的企業要用綠電我們不能影響台灣企業的國際競爭力也為了追求AI時代台灣成為AI大國的這個用電的需求量No one is outsider負責任的執政黨要因應要準備我們要準備什麼呢就是右手邊的二次能源轉型 |
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幾件事第一建置儲能設施我們要做第二優化電網韌性我們加倍做第三提升綠能發電我們全力拼第四佈局能源的多元化就我一直在說的能源是要多元化不是獨壓核電不是只看到核電 |
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這幾件事情是不是我們這幾年努力在做而過去國民黨沒有做我們努力努力趕上進度我一直要強調不要只看到核電核電只是能源多元化的其一不是唯一那個曾董事長今天時間非常有限但您可不可以很簡短的告訴我們這幾項事情你自己評估我們是不是都照步驟加碼努力跟時間賽跑在做 |
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我跟委員跟委員報告本來我們預計是2025年儲能到1GB但現在我們已經有2GB是進步了加碼那優化電網韌性這個從2022年開始執行事實上我們陸陸續續都在推動很可惜立法院刪除了電網韌性的預算 |
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我們希望能夠儘快有資源可以做那提升綠能發電跟委員報告2025年當然就是我們還沒達到20%但是已經發到380億度達20%的目標努力也比四個核電機組的發電量大好 第四項我們看下一頁能源多元化就是現在的政策進行式能源多元化有這麼多 |
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風力 生殖能 太陽光電 水力 小水力 地熱 海洋溫差潮汐能 波浪能 海流能每一項都在研發 都在應用 都在進行核電不管是新式核能的應用 或是重啟核電的選項不過是這麼多理念我們都要努力該可以去爭取綠能發電的我們絕對不放棄這是我要論述的主題 下一頁 |
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下一頁我要請您澄清一下今天的整個報告不管是書面或者是剛剛您的口頭文的報告您都說了重啟核電其實是還要過恩關斬恩將還要慢慢長路八字眉一撇 |
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您說了一個一年半到兩年的時間點不管是書面報告或您今天的口頭包括這個報道內容都寫得很清楚 廣明星部長在回答立委質詢的時候的說法是台電依法送出來的自主安全檢查至少還要一年半以上 |
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後面還要交給核安會去審查 審到哪一天 能不能過關都不知道這篇報導的內容也是這樣寫的 部長您看一看可是呢 居然就有title 標題就下標說經濟部長說核電研議最快一年半這實在是斷章取義啊您趕快澄清一下吧 |
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自主安全檢查是是現在的第一關自主安全審查至少要一年半還要送核安會不知道要審多久不知道安全能不能過關這請把專業的事情交給專業最後一頁最後一頁所以好 |
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請把核能、能源的專業交給專業不要讓政治凌駕專業也不要去扭曲的解讀台電現階段提出來的核三再運轉計畫只是後續安全審查的第一關It's just the beginning, not ending不是終局 |
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除以後老化的條件能不能夠符合再運轉的條件能不能夠符合再運轉的成本還有很重要的位於斷層帶的地震危害分析到底能不能過得了這一關我呼籲大家讓專業來說話專業的是回歸專業不要用政治來凌駕專業我們更不樂見這種斷章取義這一年半指的是 |
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經濟部跟台電在做一個說明 對不起他不是跟台電做說明不是經濟部跟台電共同做一個說明剛剛有委員還說部長你也要把核安會的東西一起講清楚拜託要搞清楚 球員跟裁判是不能混為一談的你只負責經濟部跟台電送出來的戰預轉計畫跟自主安全審查 |
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後續審查請尊重核安會有些立委搞不清楚要求經濟部你去跟核安會講啊要審怎樣要如何怎樣球員不能兼載裁判我們依法行政安全絕對不能打折我們大家不要這麼的躁勁核電不是唯一只是其一好嗎我們大家往能源多元化我相信主席也非常的支持謝謝 |
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謝謝主席，有請龔部長及台電曾董事長。 |
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主席 |
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有請龔部長及曾董事長。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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委員好。 |
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兩位好。 |
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因為只有4分鐘真的很急。 |
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1 |
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執政當然要有肩膀，但是在野絕對不要包牌，核管法誰修的？ |
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立法院修的；誰是國會多數？ |
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藍白是國會多數。 |
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1 |
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當初核管法的文字不管是「得」或「應」，行政部門依法行政，怎麼會通過法案的國民黨委員現在反過來這樣說？ |
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你們是做也罵、不做也罵，我覺得這種包牌不太好啦！ |
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現在進入我想要垂詢的主題，二次能源轉型是現在進行式，我們追求的是能源多元化，核電只是其一，核電不是唯一，而核電還包括SMR新式核電技術的研發應用，然後才回到過去除役的核電廠有沒有可能再重啟？ |
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在安全這一關過不過得了？ |
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所以我希望大家聚焦能源多元化才是王道，如果只看到核電這一項，只獨押核電這一項，這不是我們政策的現在進行式。 |
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非核家園上路312天，到今天為止，我們的每日備轉容量還維持在10%以上，所以非核家園上路，現在有缺電嗎？沒有。 |
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是，這是事實，所以非核家園已經上路了，也是依據立法院相關的政策、朝野的溝通，非核家園上路312天，現在已經非核了312天，沒有缺電，我們的政策沒有跳票，也不要去操作政策再轉彎這件事。 |
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做為負責任的執政黨，能源就是國力，國際的能源挑戰是日益加劇，no one is outsider，世界各國都在因應，包括臺灣。 |
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因應地緣政治、中東戰事或俄烏戰爭，所以地緣政治衝擊了能源安全。 |
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0.929 |
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吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-25T13:27:17.529000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-25T13:27:20.692000+08:00 |
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因應淨零排放要求，所有的企業要用綠電，我們不能影響臺灣企業的國際競爭力，也為了追求AI時代臺灣成為AI大國的用電需求量，no one is outsider，負責任的執政黨要因應、要準備，我們要準備什麼呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.989 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-25T13:27:20.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-25T13:27:21.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
就是右手邊所寫的二次能源轉型。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-25T13:27:41.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-25T13:27:59.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
第一，建置儲能設施我們要做；第二，優化電網韌性我們要加倍做；第三，提升綠能發電我們全力拼；第四，布局能源的多元化，就是我一直在說的能源是要多元化，不是獨押核電，不是只看到核電。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.948 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:02.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:18.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
這幾件事情是不是我們這幾年努力在做，而過去國民黨沒有做，我們努力趕上進度，我一直在強調不要只看到核電，核電只是能源多元化的其一，不是唯一。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:20.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:30.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
曾董事長，今天時間非常有限，您可不可以很簡短地告訴我們針對這幾項事情，你自己評估我們是不是都照步驟加碼努力跟時間賽跑在做？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:32.954000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:38.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
我跟委員報告，本來我們預計是2025年儲能到1GW，但現在我們已經有2GW。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:39.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:41.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
是，進步了，加碼！ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:41.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:47.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
優化電網韌性從2022年開始執行，事實上我們陸陸續續都在推動…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:47.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:48.825000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
只是很可惜，立法院刪除了電網韌性的預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:50.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-25T13:28:53.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
我們希望能夠儘快有資源可以做。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-25T13:28:54.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-25T13:29:01.512000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
提升綠能發電2025年雖然還沒達到20%，但是已經發到380億度。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-25T13:29:02.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-25T13:29:03.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
是，朝著達到20%的目標努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-25T13:29:03.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-25T13:29:06.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
它其實也比四個核電機組的發電量大，我覺得它的目標…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.565 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-25T13:29:07.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-25T13:29:31.192000+08:00 |
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好，第四項能源多元化就是現在的政策進行式，能源多元化有這麼多，包括風力、生質能、太陽光電、水力、小水力、地熱、海洋溫差、潮汐能、波浪能、海流能，每一項都在研發、都在應用、都在進行，至於核電，不管是新式核能的應用或是重啟核電的選項，不過是這麼多裡面的一個，我們都要努力，可以去爭取綠能發電的我們絕對不放棄，這是我要論述的主題。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-25T13:29:44.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:27.531000+08:00 |
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我要請您澄清一下，今天的整個報告，不管是書面報告或者是您剛剛的口頭報告，您都說了重啟核電其實是還要過N關斬N將，還要漫漫長路、八字沒一撇，您說了一個一年半到兩年的時間點，不管是書面報告或您今天的口頭報告，包括這篇報導，內容都寫得很清楚：龔明鑫部長在回答立委質詢時的說法是，台電依法送出來的自主安全檢查至少還要一年半以上，後面還要交給核安會審查，審到哪一天、能不能過關都不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:28.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:31.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
這篇報導的內容也是這樣寫的，部長，您看一看。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:32.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:36.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
可是居然就有title標題下標說經濟部長說核電延役最快一年半，這實在是斷章取義啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:36.939000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:37.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
您趕快澄清一下吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:45.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:46.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
那是自主安全檢查。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:47.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:55.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
是，這是現在的第一關，自主安全審查至少要一年半，還要送核安會，不知道要審多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:55.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-25T13:30:58.478000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
不知道安全能不能過關？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-25T13:30:58.478000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-25T13:31:27.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
請把專業的事情交給專業，請把核能能源的專業交給專業，不要讓政治凌駕專業，也不要去扭曲的解讀，台電現階段提出來的核三再運轉計畫只是後續安全審查的第一關，It's just the beginning, not ending.不是終局，除役後老化的條件能不能夠符合再運轉的條件？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-25T13:31:27.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-25T13:31:28.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
能不能夠符合再運轉的成本？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-25T13:31:28.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-25T13:31:30.121000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
還有很重要的，位於斷層帶的地震危害分析，到底能不能過得了這一關？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-25T13:31:30.121000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-25T13:31:31.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我呼籲大家讓專業來說話，專業的事回歸專業，不要用政治來凌駕專業，我們更不樂見這種斷章取義，這一年半指的是核安會…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.922 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-25T13:31:53.230000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-25T13:31:55.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
經濟部跟台電再做說明，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-25T13:31:56.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-25T13:31:58.934000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
對不起，它不是跟台電做說明，而是…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-25T13:31:59.334000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:00.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
經濟部跟台電共同對外說明，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-25T13:32:01.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:35.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
剛剛還有委員說部長你也要把核安會的東西一起講清楚，拜託搞清楚球員跟裁判是不能夠混為一談的，你只負責經濟部跟台電送出來的再運轉計畫及自主安全審查，後續審查請尊重核安會，有些立委搞不清楚，要求經濟部去跟核安會講要怎樣、要如何，球員不能兼裁判，我們依法行政，安全絕對不能打折，大家不要這麼躁進，核電不是唯一，只是其一，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-25T13:32:35.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:36.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
吳委員的質詢可以ending了，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.118 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-25T13:32:36.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:39.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
我們大家往能源多元化，我相信主席也非常的支持，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-25T13:32:40.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:48.859143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
謝謝，not beginning, it's just ending，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
吳委員思瑤 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-25T13:32:49.159143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:54.587714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
I'm ending , thank you. |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-25T13:32:54.887714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-25T13:32:58.316286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
好，接下來請李坤城委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |