| IVOD_ID |
167910 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167910 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T12:12:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T12:18:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baae92093164a2df2ba3b86a255e355343ecf19eff9622767a8e231dcb1897cc80d85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張雅琳 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:12:15 - 12:18:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：討論事項
審查
一、 委員謝衣鳯等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第三十一條條文修正草案」案。
二、 委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
三、 委員徐富癸等18人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、 委員林月琴等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第十三條條文修正草案」案。
五、 委員李彥秀等21人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
六、 委員陳菁徽等22人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
七、 委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。
八、 委員蘇清泉等30人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
九、 委員李彥秀等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
十、 委員吳秉叡等21人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第十六條條文修正草案」案。
十一、 委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
十二、 委員顏寬恒等22人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第三十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
十三、 委員林月琴等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十八條及第二十八條之一條文修正草案」案。
十四、 委員徐欣瑩等19人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。
十五、 委員林思銘等20人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
十六、 委員王鴻薇等26人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第四十九條及第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
十七、 委員黃建賓等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
十八、 委員黃建賓等16人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第八十三條、第一百零七條及第一百零八條條文修正草案」案。
十九、 委員林德福等20人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第六十六條條文修正草案」案。
二十、 委員張雅琳等27人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十一、 委員柯志恩等18人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第五十一條之一、第九十九條及第一百零二條條文修正草案」案。
二十二、 委員陳冠廷等24人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第四十六條、第四十六條之二及第九十四條條文修正草案」案。
二十三、 台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第二十三條及第三十一條之一條文修正草案」案。
二十四、 委員黃健豪等23人擬具「兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第六十九條及第一百零三條條文修正草案」案。
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謝謝主席 我們有請部長有請石部長好 三位人好部長 我要講一個問題就是我們的兒少過老了就是我想不管是2017年到現在我們的國家審查一直不停地在講說我們的兒少休息時間不夠 學習時間太長那在去年其實也有一個在各個平台上面有提到就是說希望調整他們的上課時間 |
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避免慢性睡眠剝奪導致他們憂鬱、智商的風險提高那這個其實在很快就得到了一萬兩千六百四十一個人的附屬那我想知道就是說我們有沒有從部長的因為部長是這個公共衛生的專家嘛您認為一個合理的休息和休憩時間應該是多少呢 |
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如果是睡眠時間 要8個小時但是我們只有睡眠時間 我們沒有兒少休息跟休憩時間為什麼會講這件事情 不僅是戴傑瑞利新一件書很多國際專家都已經提出這樣子的一個建議同時我們在今年的 應該是去年我們開始有找民間來討論也有一個兒少代表直接說我根本沒有想說我要玩了 去玩了 我只想要休息 |
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所以我想這件事情呢已經是一個非常非常我們必須要來面對的問題因為過去已經這件事情已經討論了8年了我們基本上還是沒有任何的進度所以我想了解一下說針對休息時間如果我們沒有任何的了解的話我們是不是可以有開始展開我們的本土性研究休息休息時間應該多少怎樣才是符合兒少的身心發展我們有嗎 |
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如果我們有的話我們有檢視現況?現實嗎?落差在哪裡?目前本土性的實證研究我們比較沒有相關精確的數字不過在兒上法裡面對於現在除了在課堂之外我瞭解啦我現在的問題就是我們對於本土的研究上面是完全缺乏的我們也非常清楚的知道兒上法的保障並沒有落實到我們現在學生每天的生活裡 |
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所以我們是不是可以要嘛我們就來做一個研究要嘛就是我們來看看如何落實因為這真的是太多小朋友跟我說你們爸爸媽媽都有勞基法保障你的工時可是他們是沒有的一直都沒有好不好這部分是不是可以來告訴我們我們來找一些學者來看看是不是做一個本土的實證研究對實證研究然後提出相關的建議好不好這大概什麼時候可以有一個初步的規劃 |
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我們今年來委託啦那初步規劃可不可以給我一個計畫的方向啊因為如果這個研究的話也可能要到年底他才做得完嘛當然沒有錯啦我是說你們一個方向啦我們是可以從方向面先來討論啦避免到時候做完的時候來不及我們再跟委員請教一下然後再來擬定這個委託研究的這個重點 |
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好 那再來就是我不曉得部長知不知道今天早上有一群兒少團體他們在群嫌樓外面去提出兒少權法的修正那我想要知道目前的進度是什麼我們目前大概150條的這個就是院版的150條大概都完成這個條文的修訂的草案那我們預計是在四月的時候會來做預告四月做預告然後再辦這個公聽會來收集大家的意見 |
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好 我想這個進度如果可以再加速的話更好因為這個民間已經等了太久跟太久可是我們兒少面對的困境其實是越來越艱辛包含網路的一個變化就是一個很大的調整但是我有一個東西是希望部長可以先來做的事情就是我關於我們兒少代表 |
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221.855 |
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238.7 |
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這件事情我們在地方我們一直在鼓勵大家推可是我們中央部會大家其實都非常的消極然後都會回答我們說那個行政院有啊衛福部有啊就跟你們這邊配合就好了可是我覺得這件事情是沒有辦法真正的落實到我們講的兒少表一權所以是不是可以有一套機制由衛福部這邊來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
240.22 |
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251.211 |
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一個機制或是制度讓我們其他的部會來了解說其實跟俄少談真的沒有那麼可怕來增強他們的信心所以這件事情是不是可以請社家署來規劃 |
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254.145 |
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276.869 |
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就是讓其他部會 其他部會也設是不是對 因為大家不管是在CRC的國家結論性意見審查都有提出這個方向嘛 對不對但是我們中央從2022年到現在我們還是只有行政院跟衛福部啊我們是不是可以設計一個制度或是機制等等的讓其他的部會瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
279.07 |
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293.992 |
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這個我們先來瞭解現況因為過去確實在111年的時候有頒布一個中央機關推動兒少參與國家所以我們來瞭解一下各部會的落實情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
294.352 |
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310.5 |
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好 那這個部分的話我覺得我們了解一下落實情形然後還有我覺得不能只有聽部會這邊的意見一定要找兒少代表來了解到底食物上面他們推動跟部會溝通的時候到底遇到了什麼樣子的問題那最後一題我快快的講就是說還是狼教練這件事情兒少工作證 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
311.68 |
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325.793 |
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因為這個兒少工作證其實我從一開始到現在我都一直不停的在講兒少工作證那不僅是我在講民間也非常非常的期待但是呢衛福部只有一個回應就是說因為會納入兒少法我們正在修改兒少權法這樣子所以我是在想說 |
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345.239 |
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到我們修法完成這個中間還有一個空窗我們到底怎麼樣可以來建立一個制度來保障我們的兒少因為不然新聞層出不窮我們自己也介紹很多這樣子的案例我們是不是可以有一個什麼樣子的機制幫助我們的家長知道這位教練到底有沒有問題 |
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346.579 |
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371.511 |
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或是這位老師到底有沒有問題 各位請簡短回答我們先從這個CRC專區的擴大我們現在的CRC專區只針對違反兒少法的那我們把它先擴大到相關的這個案例通通把它 就是裁罰的那些名單通通可以先集中在一個區讓它方便查詢 可以先從這個地方先做起 |
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好但我想這個只是查詢到不合法的那這個部分我們後面約時間好不好對我們說我們約時間好謝謝 |
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張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:25.502000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，有請部長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:25.502000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:26.042000+08:00 |
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有請石部長。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-03-25T12:12:26.042000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:30.384000+08:00 |
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張委員好。 |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:30.384000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:32.864000+08:00 |
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部長，我要講一個問題，就是兒少過勞了。 |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:35.385000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:41.648000+08:00 |
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從2017年到現在，國際審查不停地講兒少的休息時間不夠、學習時間太長。 |
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0.893 |
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張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:41.908000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:58.036000+08:00 |
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去年也有人在這個平臺上提到，希望調整他們的上課時間，避免慢性睡眠剝奪，導致他們憂鬱、自傷自殺風險提高，其實很快就得到1萬2,641人附議。 |
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0.862 |
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張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:12:59.056000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:07.121000+08:00 |
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部長是公共衛生專家，我想知道，您認為合理的休息和休憩時間應該是多少呢？ |
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0.719 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:07.701000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:10.882000+08:00 |
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如果是睡眠時間要8個小時。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:10.882000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:14.743000+08:00 |
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但是只提到睡眠時間，沒有兒少休息跟休憩時間。 |
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0.9 |
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張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:14.743000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-25T12:13:15.503000+08:00 |
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為什麼會講這件事情？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-25T12:13:15.683000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-25T12:13:20.584000+08:00 |
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不僅結論性意見書，很多國際專家也都已經提出這樣的建議。 |
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0.76 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:20.584000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:36.230000+08:00 |
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同時，今年……應該是去年，我們開始找民間討論，也有一位兒少代表直接說他根本想不到要玩樂、去玩了，他只想休息，所以，我想這件事情已經非常……是我們必須面對的問題。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:37.531000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:48.680000+08:00 |
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這件事情已經討論8年了，基本上還是沒有任何進度，所以我想了解一下，如果我們針對休息時間沒有任何了解的話，是不是可以開始展開本土性研究？ |
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0.934 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-25T12:13:51.743000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:13:57.387000+08:00 |
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休息、休憩時間應該是多少，怎樣才符合兒少的身心發展，有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-25T12:13:59.225000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:02.547000+08:00 |
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如果有的話，有檢視現況與現實嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:02.547000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:06.109000+08:00 |
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落差在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:06.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:07.710000+08:00 |
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有沒有本土性的實證研究？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
周署長道君 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:07.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:13.093000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，在目前的本土性實證研究中，我們比較沒有相關精確數字，不過在兒少法裡面，現在除了在課堂之外…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.609 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:13.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:13.614000+08:00 |
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我了解啦！ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:14.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:17.736000+08:00 |
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現在的問題就是本土研究上是完全缺乏的。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:17.816000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:14:30.101000+08:00 |
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我們也非常清楚地知道兒少法的保障並沒有落實到現在學生每天的生活裡，所以要嘛就來做個研究，要嘛就是看看如何落實。 |
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0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:30.101000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:37.303000+08:00 |
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因為真的有太多小朋友跟我說，爸爸媽媽都有勞基法保障工時，可是他們是沒有的，一直都沒有！ |
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0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:37.743000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:37.823000+08:00 |
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好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:38.343000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:40.704000+08:00 |
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這部分是不是可以告訴我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:40.704000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:14:44.765000+08:00 |
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我們找一些學者，看看是不是要做本土實證研究。 |
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0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:45.465000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:14:47.206000+08:00 |
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對，實證研究，然後提出相關建議，好不好？對。 |
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0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:47.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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2026-03-25T12:14:48.586000+08:00 |
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大概什麼時候可以有初步規劃？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:50.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:52.709000+08:00 |
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我們今年委託。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:53.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:53.649000+08:00 |
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初步規劃大概是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:53.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:55.471000+08:00 |
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可不可以給我計畫方向？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:56.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-25T12:14:59.494000+08:00 |
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如果要研究的話，也可能要到年底才做得完嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-25T12:14:59.774000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:15:01.435000+08:00 |
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當然沒有錯，我是請你們提個方向啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:01.555000+08:00 |
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2026-03-25T12:15:05.458000+08:00 |
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我們可以先從方向面討論，避免到時候做完可能來不及了，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:05.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:11.102000+08:00 |
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好，我們向委員請教一下，再擬定委託研究的重點。 |
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0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
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2026-03-25T12:15:11.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-25T12:15:12.483000+08:00 |
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謝謝，了解。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:12.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:19.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
再來，不曉得部長知不知道，今天早上有一群兒少團體在群賢樓外面提出兒少權法修正主張？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:20.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:22.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
我想知道目前的進度是什麼。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:23.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:32.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
目前院版的150條大概都完成條文修訂草案。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:32.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:33.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
那什麼時候會送進來？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.111 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:32.675000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:36.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
我們預計4月預告。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:37.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:37.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
4月預告？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:37.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:40.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
然後再辦公聽會蒐集大家的意見。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:41.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:51.530000+08:00 |
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我想，如果進度可以再加速的話更好，因為民間等這個已經等太久，可是兒少面對的困境其實愈來愈艱辛，包含網路的變化就是很大的調整。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:52.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-25T12:15:56.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
但是有一件事情我希望部長先做，就是兒少代表。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-25T12:15:56.855000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:06.478000+08:00 |
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關於這件事情，我們在地方一直鼓勵大家推，可是中央部會其實都非常消極，都回答我們行政院有、衛福部有等等，跟你們這些機關配合就好。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:07.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:23.748000+08:00 |
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我覺得這件事情沒有辦法真正地落實我們講的兒少表意權，所以是不是可以由衛福部設計一套機制或制度，讓其他部會了解跟兒少談真的沒有那麼可怕，以增強他們的信心？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:24.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:26.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這件事情是不是可以請社家署規劃？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:29.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:33.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
就是讓其他部會也設置是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:34.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:41.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
對，因為在CRC的國家結論性意見審查也提出這個方向嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:41.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:42.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:42.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:46.723000+08:00 |
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但是中央從2022年到現在還是只有行政院跟衛福部啊！好。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:48.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:51.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你們是不是可以設計一項制度或機制等，讓其他部會了解，然後請他們設置？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.677 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:51.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:54.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:54.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-25T12:16:55.732000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我們先了解現況。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-25T12:16:56.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:03.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
過去、在111年確實曾頒布一項向中央機關推動兒少參與國家…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:03.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:04.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
對，但事實上沒有什麼改變嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:04.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:08.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
對，所以我們來了解一下各部會的落實情形，看看有沒有什麼要再調整。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.552 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:09.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:12.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
好，那就了解一下落實情形。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:13.674000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:21.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
還有，不能只聽部會這邊的意見，一定要找兒少代表了解，他們在實務上推動、跟部會溝通的時候到底遇到什麼樣的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.918 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:21.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:24.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
最後一題我快快地講，還是狼教練這件事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:27.121000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:33.627000+08:00 |
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關於兒少工作證，其實我從一開始到現在都不停地講兒少工作證，而且不僅我在講，民間也非常地期待。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:34.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:39.392000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
但是衛福部只有一個回應，就是會納入兒少法，而你們正在修改兒少權法。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:40.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:49.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
但我想，到修法完成時，這中間還有空窗，我們到底可以怎麼樣建立制度保障兒少？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.879 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:50.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-25T12:17:53.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
要不然，新聞層出不窮，我們自己也接到很多這樣的案例。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-25T12:17:54.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:04.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
是不是有什麼樣的機制可以幫助家長知道這位教練到底有沒有問題，或者這位老師到底有沒有問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:04.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:06.761000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
跟委員進一步說明…… |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:06.761000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:07.042000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
部長，請簡短回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:07.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:10.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
好，我們先從CRC專區擴大開始。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:11.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:26.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
現在CRC專區只針對違反兒少法者，我們先擴大，把相關案例那些裁罰名單統統集中在一區，方便查詢，可以先從這個地方做起。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:27.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:30.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
好，但我想這只能查詢到不合法者，這部分我們後續約時間好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:30.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:31.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
請委員注意時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
張委員雅琳 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:30.933000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:31.093000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
對，我們約時間。好。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:31.593000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:33.593000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
謝謝張雅琳委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-25T12:18:33.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-25T12:18:36.464429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
接下來請盧縣一委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0 |