| IVOD_ID |
167879 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167879 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T11:17:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T11:25:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baae05fe8ea8206995842ba03baa58d693134b8922a2b60b811d552700a2677dd5fa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:17:18 - 11:25:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力公司董事長就「核二、核三廠自主安全檢查現況與再運轉計畫及政府『重啟核電三原則』之歷年進度與現況說明」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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請各位其他委員遵守我們的委員時間4分鐘那本委是5加2 |
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橋頭新市鎮因為有橋科的設立所以新市鎮目前發展得不錯現在進入第三期新市鎮要發展 聯外交通很重要 |
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生活機能很重要 領外交通就是生活機能嘛那現在有這個國土組規劃1-1 60米的道路那2-3是南北向是50米道路昨天我去看啦 有一些環保團體說這個開1-1會大面積破壞森林啦 |
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據我去了解這好像不是森林是好像2002年跟當時農委會簽訂的造林契約造林是一個經濟作物對不對它未來就是做出一個商品這個木材請教一下吳董事長 |
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這個環保局所說的,會大面積破壞台塘的這個所謂森林,那是森林嗎?報告委員,其實不是100公頃,只有51公頃,而且這個也都超過20年的那個可砍伐的經濟林,它不是自然的原始森林,沒有既有水土保持功能的林地。 |
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那上面大概都是印度紫檀白千層及相思樹你這個區段偵測面積是多少?區段偵測面積多少?那個總共不多啦會不會影響目前橋口廠商不管是文化景觀或者遊戲功能或者森林的功能 |
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會不會 不會 因為在那個警官方面 這不是申領跟委員報告你聽到你的答案不會就好了 下一位 請這個水利署 |
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這個典寶溪是流域治理,因為大水造成這個液體所以我們就加強對典寶溪的整治,典寶溪花了十幾年 |
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志鴻池也挖五個志鴻池對不對然後上游從上游開始整治到這個比秀排水整個最後一個一里路就是在中崎啊中崎啊它有一個625的戶岸這個戶岸 |
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大概就是在台南旁邊會不會影響這個護岸的興建是不是必要性會不會影響弱化破壞森林也好會不會弱化整個治水防洪的功能 會不會 |
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首先謝謝委員對典寶溪的支持那經過委員的支持以後我們在兩年前開會台後到現在其實陸續在推動那你所關心的這一段其實是我們所有的提防最後一哩路這個雖然 |
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有些環團有一些意見但是我們認為還是要做因為你沒有做它水會進入這個造林區而且可能會排到其他的地點所以一定要做這個我們來推動我相信專業因為水利是科學 |
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環環團體它是有理想性但是它不是不瞭解實際上的技術面或者是你們經過長期的規劃從專業角度 從科學角度來做治水房的工作所以你們要跟這些團體多做溝通 |
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因為地點他比較高也不適合當滯洪池所以從你的這個回答說這個有這個必要性有必要性符合這個科學而且會這個會減少點保溪這個相關的這個易洪的這個風險對不對是我們會全力來推動沒有問題那接著請這個台電曾董事長 |
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縣長 那個電協金現在 新達福利商店現在變成燃氣廠對不對?是 現在變成燃氣所以這個電協金啊你們這個電協金 我這個也請部長了解一下這個電協金如果做一些調整之後啊 |
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會變成這個換寡也換不均換寡就是說你這個補助對地方補助的金額總而言減少了不均就是說原本所在區的這個協定本來它可以分配到將近30%那你用新的電協金 |
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變成補助型跟過去年度型不一樣這種狀況協定就變成只有9%哇整個這個協定是新達火力化電廠所在地這個廠就是在協定 |
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這些我怎麼對我的這個選民我怎麼對我的李明交代所以這部分啊無論如何我看了好多市會這個能源署也在是不是深切的去做一些調整怎麼樣制定一個大家都可以接受的這個電學金的方案 |
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報告委員這件事也謝謝您關心我想說一併跟您做個回答您關心的問題第一個事情就是我新拿電廠所在的地點 |
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那個實在是行政區跨分的交錯一部分在永安一部分在竊定那你現在過去是用整個廠區地址你大門口是在竊定嘛但是你現在這個發電爐的爐是在永安嘛所以我覺得你們在做這個電子結晶的設計的時候 |
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堅固公平性你會相對剝奪感很重所以我提出這個問題那要解決問題需要能源署需要經濟部需要台電去處理我希望一個月之內提出一個解決的方案你不要讓我我回到協定這個協定的這些我的鄉親啊我怎麼對他們交代我協定得票率是七成欸各位啊七成欸 |
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那SMR目前的進度怎麼樣幾年之內我們可以用SMR的技術來上轉 |
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有沒有知道SMR現在全世界還沒有真的成熟而且開始運轉三年之內要商轉那美國已經批准了這個SMR這個電廠的設置然後韓國也投入很多資源但是看到的大部分它的那個成本都超出他們的預期但是我們會密切觀察我可以接受但是我們要去發展 |
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不是研發我們需要有這個福祉這個產業的存在韓國已經在做了美國也在做我希望可以學習最後一個問題CPTPP很重要12個會員國我們在12個會員國我們都有經濟組 |
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我希望經濟組啊劉書長能夠責成經濟組同仁確實掌握精度這12個國家我都一個一個去問我直接跟大使通電話了解今年在越南辦的這個部長會議每一個會員國基本的立場如何這個 |
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請一個月給我各組會管住回報的狀況我也知道我要以身作死時間到了我不會無天際質詢 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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請經濟部龔部長、台糖吳董事長、台電曾董事長及水利署林署長。 |
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請經濟部龔部長、台糖吳董事長、台電曾董事長及水利署林署長。 |
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邱委員早安。 |
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橋頭新市鎮因為有橋科的設立，所以目前新市鎮發展得不錯，已經進入第三期。 |
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我認為新市鎮要發展，聯外交通很重要，生活機能很重要，而聯外交通就是生活機能。 |
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現在國土署規劃1-1號為60米道路，2-3號為南北向50米道路。 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-25T11:18:42.436000+08:00 |
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昨天我去看，有一些環保團體說，開1-1號道路會大面積破壞森林，就我去了解，我發現好像不是森林，那是2002年與當時的農委會所簽訂的造林契約。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.807 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-25T11:18:42.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-25T11:18:45.078000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
所謂造林就是經濟作物，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-25T11:18:45.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-25T11:18:48.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
未來會做成商品、木材。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-25T11:18:49.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-25T11:18:59.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
請教吳董事長，環保團體說會大面積破壞台糖的森林，那是森林嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.852 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-25T11:18:59.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:14.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
報告委員，不是100公頃，只有51公頃，而且是超過20年可砍伐的經濟林，並非自然的原始森林，不具有水土保持功能的林地。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:15.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:21.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
那上面大概都是印度紫檀、白千層及相思樹…… |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:21.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:23.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
對，請問區段徵收的面積是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.538 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:25.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:30.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
區段徵收面積是多少？不多…… |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:32.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:39.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
會不會影響目前橋頭糖廠，不管是文化景觀、遊戲功能或森林的功能，會不會？不會！ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:39.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:42.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
完全不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
吳董事長明昌 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:42.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:46.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
就景觀方面來說，這不是森林，跟委員報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:46.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:47.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
聽到你的答案是不會就好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:48.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-25T11:19:49.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
下一位請教水利署林署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-25T11:19:57.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:14.466000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
典寶溪是流域治理，兩、三年前因為大水而造成這個議題，所以我們加強了對典寶溪的整治，花了十幾年，滯洪池也挖了5個，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:16.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:33.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
從上游開始整治，到筆秀排水，整個最後一哩路，就是在中崎那邊有一個625公尺的護岸，這個護岸就在台糖旁邊，會不會有影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.78 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:33.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:35.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
這個護岸的興建是不是必要性？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:35.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:39.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
會不會影響、破壞整個森林？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:40.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:42.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
或是會不會弱化整個治水防洪的功能？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:44.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:50.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
首先謝謝委員對典寶溪的支持，經過委員的支持以後，我們在兩年前凱米颱風…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:50.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-25T11:20:53.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
我也有到現場去看嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-25T11:20:53.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:00.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
是，到現在其實是陸續在推動，委員所關心的這一段，其實是我們所有堤防的最後一哩路，這個…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:00.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:02.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
有沒有必要性？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:02.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:05.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
有些環團是有一些意見，但我們認為還是要做…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:05.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:06.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
你們要去溝通啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:05.802000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:13.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
因為如果沒有做，水會進入造林區，而且可能會排到其他地點，所以一定要做，這個我們會來推動，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:13.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:31.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我相信專業，因為水力是科學，環保團體有其理想性，但是他們不了解實際上的技術面，你們是經過長期規劃，從專業角度、科學角度來做治水防洪的工作……是。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:31.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:33.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
所以你們要跟這些團體多做溝通…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:33.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:34.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:34.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:35.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我是相信科學嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:34.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:38.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
因為這個地點比較高，也不適合做滯洪池，這沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:38.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:41.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
你的回答表示這有必要性…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:41.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:42.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
有必要性。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:42.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:49.733000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
而且符合科學，也會減少典寶溪相關溢洪的風險，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林署長元鵬 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:49.733000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:51.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
是，我們會全力來推動，沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:51.774000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:53.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
好，接著請台電曾董事長。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:54.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-25T11:21:58.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
曾董事長，電協金部分，現在興達火力發電廠變成是燃氣廠，對不對？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-25T11:21:58.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-25T11:22:01.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
沒有燒煤炭，現在是燃氣，所以有關電協金的部分，也請部長了解一下，這個電協金做一些調整之後，哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.707 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-25T11:22:14.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-25T11:22:17.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
會變成患寡也患不均。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-25T11:22:18.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-25T11:22:41.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
患寡就是對地方補助的金額總額減少，不均就是原本所在區的茄萣，本來可以分配到將近30%，現在新的電協金變成補助型，跟過去年度型不一樣，在這種狀況下，茄萣變成只有9%。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-25T11:22:44.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-25T11:22:53.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
茄萣是興達火力發電廠的所在地，整個廠就在茄萣，這樣我怎麼對我的選民、里民交代？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.686 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-25T11:22:54.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:07.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
針對這部分，我開了好多次會，能源署也在，是不是請你們深切去做一些調整，制定一個大家都可以接受的電協金方案？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:09.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:14.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
報告委員，謝謝你關心這件事，針對你所關心的幾個問題，我一併跟你做個回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.531 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:16.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:24.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
第一個事情，有關興達電廠所在的地點，實在是行政區劃分的交錯…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:24.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:25.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
那個廠區很大，跨茄萣跟永安嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:24.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:26.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
對，一部分在永安，一部分是茄萣…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:27.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:36.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
過去是用整個廠區的地址來看，大門口是在茄萣，但現在發電爐的位置是在永安…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:36.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-25T11:23:37.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
土地在…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-25T11:23:37.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:04.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
我覺得你們在設計電協金的時候，要兼顧公平性，否則民眾的相對剝奪感會很重，我提出這個問題，解決問題需要能源署、需要經濟部、需要台電去處理，我希望你們一個月內提出解決方案，不要讓我回到茄萣面對這些里民、鄉親，怎麼對他們交代？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:04.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:05.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
報告委員，我們其實已經積極在討論…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:04.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:06.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我在茄萣的得票率是七成欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:06.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:07.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
各位，七成欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:07.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:08.505250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
這個如果我沒有處理好，要怎麼對他們交代？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:08.505250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:09.580500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
拜託董事長、拜託部長…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
曾董事長文生 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:09.580500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:10.655750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
好，我們會去處理這件事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:10.655750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:11.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
能源署署長，一定要好好處理，好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:11.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:12.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
另外，SMR目前的進度怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:12.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:13.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
幾年之內我們可以用SMR的技術來商轉？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:27.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:28.733000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
有沒有人知道SMR？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:28.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:33.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
現在全世界還沒有真的成熟，而且開始運轉的。有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:33.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:43.867000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你看，三年之內要商轉，美國已經批准SMR電廠的設置，韓國也投入很多資源…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:44.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-25T11:24:50.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
對，但是看到的大部分是成本已經都超出他們的預期，不過我們會密切觀察…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-25T11:24:51.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-25T11:25:03.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
新的核能技術我可以接受，而且我們要去發展，不是研發，我們是需要扶植這個產業的存在，韓國已經在做了，美國也在做了，我希望可以學習。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-25T11:25:03.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-25T11:25:34.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
最後一個問題，CPTPP很重要，有12個會員國，針對這12個會員國我們都有經濟組，劉署長，我希望能夠責成經濟組同仁確實掌握進度，這12個國家我都一個一個去問，直接跟大使通電話，了解今年在越南辦的部長會議，每一個會員國基本的立場如何，這個也請一個月給我各組各駐外館處回報的狀況。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
邱委員志偉 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-25T11:25:34.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-25T11:25:39.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我也是召委，我要以身作則，時間到了，時間到了，我不會無天際質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.704 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-25T11:25:40.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-25T11:25:42.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
謝謝邱召委，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-25T11:25:42.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-25T11:25:45.796857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
下一位請陳超明委員，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |