iVOD / 167863

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IVOD_ID 167863
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167863
日期 2026-03-25
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-19-4
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 4
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 經濟委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-03-25T10:42:28+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-25T10:51:31+08:00
影片長度 00:09:03
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委員名稱 張嘉郡
委員發言時間 10:42:28 - 10:51:31
會議時間 2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第4次全體委員會議(事由:邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。 邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力公司董事長就「核二、核三廠自主安全檢查現況與再運轉計畫及政府『重啟核電三原則』之歷年進度與現況說明」進行報告,並備質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 我們請張家俊委員質詢感謝昭偉 也謝謝昭偉 李亮那我是先請龔部長龔部長 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 早安 國務部長早安就在這個週末 我們賴總統宣布了要重啟核能那針對這個重啟核能的這個目標不曉得說部長您事先知道嗎這個是倉促之下的決定還是經過整個內閣團隊溝通才商量好的
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 所以總統要發布這個訊息之前您事先是不知道的?
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 好 你不知道那我想要知道說目前的時程呢 目前的時程您心中有一個具體的想法嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 現在就在進行自主安全檢查階段然後這個月底之前我們會送出再運轉的計畫那目標是什麼時候可以完成這個正式重啟自主安全檢查台電給我們的這個數據是差不多18個月到兩年之間所以如果從現在開始的話要2028才有機會重啟那這個
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 等於是這個時間 符合總統的這個目標嗎不知道委員 自主安全檢查檢查完以後要送到河岸會去審查那河岸會會審查多久 這個我們就要尊重河岸會的這個審查我也知道你會說都是河岸會的決定那我的意思是你身為經濟部長你的想法呢 你的想法你有沒有有什麼主張說是不是應該這個期程應該再拉快一點
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 因為我們自主安全檢查希望把這個安全的功像全部都做到位那如果可以節省時間我們當然盡量節省時間但是核安會的確他安全的這個審查時間這個我們就沒有當然我也同意安全一定要第一但是呢有關於這個有可能我們會面臨缺電的這個危機也是目前不會有目前不會有你有信心說我們目前不擔心這個點
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 對因為短期間當然是中東戰事嘛那我們天然氣的調度大概五月份大概都完成那本席也有注意到在台美關稅簽署的這個ART第五節經濟與國安的這個章節其中第五條第四條第七項就是在
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 沒有勒
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 所以是行政團隊你們只是主動呼應我們通過的這個法律因為有這個法律作為依據我們才有那樣的依據來自主安全檢查看可不可以所以你們現在自主安全最快最快你說18個月這樣子也一定要到2028才有可能重啟
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 假設這個結果是安全的是嗎時間那個請台電董事長是請台電董事長那個跟委員報告就是說核安會審查換發執照我們拿到運轉執照就可以重啟所以核安會檢查完畢之後還有什麼行政流程在你們拿到執照這中間你們有預估大概要多久嗎我跟委員報告就是說因為今天報告的時候我就特別
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 台電的報告特別是用法條來說明講簡單一點就是我們其實要澄清一個事它其實就是一個執照換發的過程那台電要運轉核電廠一定要監理機關就是核安會發了執照才能做所以核安會開完會確定安全之後到他發執照中間還有一個行政流程嗎還是這個行政流程是可以縮減更短的
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 委員這個這個可能我也沒辦法這個你也不清楚不是我沒有辦法替你回我沒有辦法替基本上本席是很支持重啟核能的那絕對支持的立場之下但我覺得中央的能源政策讓我一則以喜一則以憂因為整個為了要
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 等於是完成非核家園我們花了這麼久的時間然後耗費了高昂的社會資源終於才被中央政府重視喔那我們付出了這麼大的一個成本然後卻沒有人需要負責部長你會不會覺得我們的能源政策空轉太久了呢
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 這個能源的發展跟政策跟技術還有當時的社會還有發生的事情都有很大的一些關係那我只是要提醒部長經濟部是國家經濟的總舵手那能源更是重中之重
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 要看說台灣的電力供應是否穩定然後能源政策是否有延續性現在決定要重啟核能我呼籲就應該摒棄任何的政治考量用務實科學的這樣子的態度來面對能源問題部長能做到嗎
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 我們是依法行政 科學 專業來判斷這個事情一定是這樣太好了 我們繼續往這個方向加油那我要接著問就是中東戰火目前沒有緩解的跡象那國際的原油也是應聲上漲國內的油價已經開始要上揚那我想本席非常擔心基層的民生那現在萬物齊掌不管是瓦斯油價 食材都蠢蠢欲動
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 那民眾對於物價上漲的感覺越來越深刻請問部長針對這一波這個戰爭有可能長期化引發的連鎖通膨目前經濟部有沒有在準備一個具體的因應措施呢報告委員我們就是在源頭盡量的政府可以吸收的吸收電的部分現在審議會會在這個月底就召開嘛那我們希望穩定物價那
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 那個油價的部分雖然有一個公式但是我們有在亞林最低價之外額外再吸收60%以上所以上一次吸收到75%再上上次吸收了60%是當然這個本席都肯定你們很努力在穩定民生物價但是現在這個壓力撲面而來
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 目前預估一家四口平均可能每個月會增加五千到七千五的這個生活開銷這一點我想可能經濟部也要開始目前看起來因為我們像那個童莊老師都沒有漲價可是你看喔假設你有去菜市場
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 一包一斤的這個塑膠袋每包已經從20塊漲到25塊了那塑膠原料就是石化產業的下游所以呢不是說只有原油它是有它的副產品它的副產品是非常有可能會漲價的所以我希望部長就是說是不是能夠去了解一下說這個可能家庭的生活的開銷壓力
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 那這個可能必須可能不只經濟部是要整個行政院可能要坐下來研究評估那未來如果假設這個戰爭不像我們想像的那麼快結束因為戰爭是不可預期的那麼快結束的話我們是不是應該未雨綢繆做一些相對的準備對現在行政院的這個穩定物價的匯報
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 以前是一個月開市現在是每個禮拜開是副院長在召開的確是跨部會的非常好 辛苦你了 謝謝