| IVOD_ID |
167861 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167861 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-25T10:36:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-25T10:48:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/755992caaad3baaed07a61c6eeb3251a5b6789160e7ad0a45dcddfbaa3ed0a43db08b1e8b7a4a0825ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:36:53 - 10:48:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲率所屬機關首長暨國營事業董事長、總經理(含各轉投資事業機構公股代表之董、監事)列席業務報告，並備質詢。
【3月25日及26日二天一次會】） |
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本席請教部長對於小吃店要全面開立統一發票引發我們業者民眾極大的熱議 |
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財政部馬上就政策轉彎就髮夾彎在19日召開記者會說明原先宣布就是2029年起118年起要實施的全面大眾化的飲食店開立發票的政策要三年內緩衝期內收集各界意見借滿期待期滿前再通過 |
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再行通盤檢討與決議所以是不是在118年確定會上路因為你講說是期滿三年內你們要去收集各界意見期滿就會再行通盤檢討與決議所以到底是在118年會不會上路 |
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跟委員報告也不好意思因為這個過程當中我們一開始沒有說得很清楚所以引起一些紛擾那我還是要再一次的說明就是20萬以下的話依然是免開發票這個部分是非常重要那超過20萬以上的話那118年會不會確定會上路你再說明確告訴大家就127年屆期之前我們會再做審慎的評估 |
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還是會評估不是說一百期滿三年期滿馬上就實施我們會再做審慎評估跟委員報告部長我想我今天關心的是我們整體稅制的一致性與可預期性城鎮部一開始就是是否就是打算要全面實施 |
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所以這樣看起來你先釋放消息是在做民意的測試壓力反應嗎? |
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妳是在測試民意的壓力嗎不是的所以妳政策會這樣反覆就會讓我們大家覺得說財政部啊 |
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對於稅制的整體的一致性可預期性沒有做很周全的一個考量跟委員報告沒有這樣的用意其實部長我們政策在事務面上有公平性尤其這個議題你要如何放寬如何達到公平這之間的斟酌這個要慎重的一個考量 |
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我想部長我本席在我們的地方的選區啊我們在日常行程上去跑的時候中午我們就會停下來到小吃店去用餐嘛所以我們也常發現說部分的小吃店他生意非常的好 |
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但是他卻沒有去開發票但是有些排隊的這些網紅店他也不用被課稅反而部分巷口的麵攤巷口裡面的小麵攤他反而或者是這個滷肉飯的這些攤子他反而營業的營業額度剛好過20萬的門檻就被判定要開立發票並課成5%的這個營業稅 |
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部分營業性特殊的例外情形也可以暫時免開維持免開發票這樣的制度的設計之下公平性難免就產生爭議就是你要如何放寬 |
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這個制度的設計看起來就是很有爭議所以我要請問目前國稅局對於是否達到開立發票標準採用哪些具體的一個判準國稅局他們目前來說有用查定的嘛如果沒有開發票就用查定那他們都有 |
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一套的計算方式這個部分那另外對於營業性質特殊的是否有明確公開且一致適用的標準我們也有第一個在營業稅法還有適應細則以及相關的財政部的函令裡面都有做一些明確的規定部長我建議就是說財政部未來是否應該要避免政策未定案前你就發布說 |
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就來發布啦 造成民眾的恐慌嘛我想稅制改革的重點 |
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不只要公平而且要穩定與可預期如果標準不夠明確那個訊息反覆就造成我們大眾的恐慌所以你這一次這樣發布就造成這樣一個情形所以未來政策的發布我是希望我們在做決策的時候要慎重的一個考量在做發布因為發布出來又馬上髮夾彎 |
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這樣不僅影響我們這些小吃店業者他的一個決策也會影響民眾對制度的一個信任所以未來我期待你能更慎重一點好不好謝謝委員的期許好 謝謝那接下來請台北101的賈永傑董事長請賈永傑董事長 |
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好 起來 |
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賈董早 賈董我看你最近對政治的議題蠻有興趣的包含你過去製作李前總統的《是惡魔》的海報然後你最近對這個發表道歉並且在二二八期間你在社群平台發表你深入研究林載血案台灣近代史以及人權相關的議題這些都引發熱議 |
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並且您在今年的大年初五您跟您的先生現身中正紀念堂參觀自由花蕊的展覽在社群平台曬出蔣中正的蠟像照更配上辛辣的文字很嗆繼續罰坐吧看大家多討厭你 |
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還有藉由台北101的點燈打字以為呼應民主自由的價值紀念總統全民直選30週年的重要時刻見證台灣民主發展的重要里程碑 |
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我看到您對這些議題或者您的動作都蠻政治性的所以我想請教你未來年底的大選目前媒體發起網路的民調這民調的人選包括有謝聖武律師王世堅委員還有鄭義軍副院長以及你就是針對台北市長的一個選舉所以董事長我想請教你 |
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您當時表示 您有表示 您有自知之明 從來沒有說要選所以今天站在立法院 我想請您很明確的告訴社會大眾您是否是樂於繼續擔任台北101的董事長還是未來您有參選台北市長的一個規劃跟打算 |
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報告委員,我完全沒有任何參選的打算,那台北市長也不在我的人生的規劃當中,謝謝,謝謝。是,所以你會繼續的在台北101,來為這個台北101的整個發展來做努力。是。絕對沒有參選的一個這樣的一個遐想。 |
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有這個遐想嗎 遐想應該不是遐想吧 應該是說我完全沒有這個想法沒有這個想法 好 以上 謝謝謝謝那接下來再請財政部再請賈董事長回座請財政部莊部長部長關於這個國票監控的議題啊 |
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這個剛才大家也很關心我想這個國票金控這個5月29號就要舉行股東常會改選董事有媒體稱這是一場經營權變天的戲碼那媒體的報導並指出幾位資深金融專家不喜反憂不約而同談到直施公司管理的財政部挑選有軍時若如法以值勢之對國票金控的發展又欠缺長遠的規劃 |
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結果可能是贏了經營權卻失去國票監控的未來就此就算勝利又如何部長你對這樣的一個媒體的看法您的說法您的說明是怎麼樣跟委員報告我們的供股事業投資相關的其他的事業都是根據它內部的有關的管理規範來執行的 |
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那當然等5月29號會召開股東會那我想後續呢當然會根據這個股東的一個股權的實力來選任相關提名跟選任董事我想這個部分要做說明那至於媒體上面有各界的一個說辭那我們覺得不予評斷 |
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師父啊財政部為了推動國票金控的變天動員八大公股與公營事業機構大幅加碼國票金從原本的8%到22%砸下糟蹋新台幣80億元用工苦來進場資金來進場用委託書來操作部長這樣取得經營權的方式是否有經過公開收購的程序 |
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是否有繞過市場機制之餘而不具正當性部長你的看法如何我想國票金控它是一個上市公司所有的交易都應該都在其中市場裡面交易並沒有所謂的不公開或就是說不公正的情況所以部長公股拿下國票金之後 |
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是不是就是會有整體的規劃我想這個目前來說有沒有可能跟未來跟公股銀行整合的一個規劃我想要等到5月29號股東會以後按照所選任的董事才能做後續的一個說明好 以上 謝謝好 謝謝林委員現在休息五分鐘 |