iVOD / 167767

Field Value
IVOD_ID 167767
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167767
日期 2026-03-23
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-20-4
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 4
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-03-23T10:44:46+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-23T10:55:29+08:00
影片長度 00:10:43
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 李坤城
委員發言時間 10:44:46 - 10:55:29
會議時間 2026-03-23T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議(事由:審查本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員林思銘等21人分別擬具「虛擬資產服務法草案」等2案。(僅詢答))
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 接下來我們請李坤澄委員謝謝主席我們請彭主委請彭主委
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 主委好 辛苦了上禮拜有專報的時候有提到你們會把這個虛擬資產服務法送到立法院來不過我們今天稍微先排了在野黨的版本那我先請教一下就是說現在本土是有八家的交易所
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 八家業者,不全是交易所八家業者,八家業者你們讓他取得許可嘛對不對對,登記制那現在就是還想講說因為你本土人你有來申請這個許可那你們也審查過了讓他有取得這個許可那但是海外的部分大家還是在講說海外的部分現在有幾家來跟我們申請
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 過去我想有幾家來詢問怎麼落地來設分支機構那這部分我們也都是因為未來整個這個專法通過以後那條文裡面就直接講了有兩條路徑
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 一個就是說你可以已經國外的機構你可以來台灣設分支機構就是分公司另外也可以你直接投資台灣成立一個本國法律設立的新的機構這兩條路都可以就跟我們一般金融市場是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 那我的意思是說在專法通過之後他們就一定要來申請嘛海外的一定要來申請嘛對一定要來申請當然當然這是國際的通歷那如果沒有來申請呢因為現在他們不用來申請嘛對不對然後也是活得很好嘛沒有就是說假設
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 今天來就像我們現在很多各位常聽到的地下保單那就是沒有在台灣有據點呈現沒有在台灣取得合法的業務在台灣招攬業務的行為這個就是違法的可是那不太一樣因為其實海外的其實他們是蠻大的一個集團
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 他們不是說像你講的這個所謂的地下交易啦那我們很多也是跟他們有交易那現在問題在於說他們來這邊目前來申請有遇到什麼樣的困難嗎因為這個困難以後你專訪通過他們還是要進來啊當然這個這部分的每一家公司的狀況不太一樣
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 資金來源這是從哪裡來這些都是有其他法律在規範那其他都是一些專業的考量就是說你有沒有能力你在台灣如何去展業這部分我們現在未來會越來越周延這些規定所以聽起來是資金來源是比較有問題嗎這是其中之一而已
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 那好那所以就是說如果專法通過之後他們就一定要來申請嘛所以你講那些問題他們也都必須要做處理嘛如果說你要在台灣實體的執行業務比如說就像前陣子比如說有委員關心說你沒有經過同意怎麼會在台灣的公車車體上看到你的廣告那基本上這個就是一個非常非常明顯或者說你竟然在台灣招攬業務人員在幫你做這些行銷這些問題大概就是這個很很具體的違反這些規定還有就是說
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 你公然的跟我們很多的金融機構或是其他機構有營業的行為我想這部分大概就很明確了好那再請教一下其實我上禮拜有問過現在就是說那個穩定幣那穩定幣現在就是說因為有一些外商應該是台商跟外商他們在這一個在交易的時候可能這一個
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 這個外商或是說那個外國的企業會給我們這一個台商穩定幣那現在就是說那台商拿到穩定幣之後現在在台灣的部分銀行的接受度是怎麼樣他們怎麼處理這一些穩定幣呢現在的話就是說我們現在這也是我們關注到因為銀行是大家信認度高的一個金融機構
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 如果未來比如說你的這些虛擬資產的保管能夠在銀行某種程度等於說你可以把它存在我的銀行那當然對我的安全性也可以當然對於持有者而言它可以存在自己的錢包也可以請銀行來做比如說信託或來做保管的管理我們就推動那個示範大概有應該有19家的銀行有興趣我們現在有5家正在做示範中
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 示範多久了示範有一陣子了示範到現在有遇到什麼樣的問題嗎其實我覺得基礎上當然每個人所採用的方式不一樣我們希望能夠整合出一個比較好的方法比較有效率的方式來做不過這個是很重要讓金融業能夠跟整個虛擬資產業做一個整合結合還有取得社會信任非常重要的一個工作我們會來加速來處理
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 現在是事辦那你們有指引嗎或是說規範嗎還是說全部要等到專法通過之後再來處理這一塊事辦跟這個是兩個獨立的那我想局長有沒有什麼補充現在事辦的情形
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 有 跟委員報告那這個部分我們也有參考香港HKMA的相關指引那我們會請銀行公會就試辦的部分我們會在六個月之內訂出指引出來那所以你說要試辦多久啦
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 試辦的期程原則上是一年但是我們會開始了嘛 因為我今天昨天講說已經開始了從哪時候開始的啊應該大概半年前就陸陸續續開始可是那個指引還沒有定出來還沒有定出來那怎麼會試辦沒有指引出來咧我知道你現在有指引出來之後再試辦嗎
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 通常就是業務先行之後我們覺得說必須要再進一步相關的去做相關的規管那我們也參考國外的一些那這半年來有遇到一些什麼問題嗎因為他們事辦的這個就是業務的內容比較簡單而且那個就是接受保管的這個這個幣呢是相對來講那個量是有限縮的對所以風險是可控都是美元嗎
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 有公股銀行嗎?目前沒有公股銀行公股銀行是比較保守
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 客人經營的業務的選擇啦剛剛委員有提到就是說我們試辦就是希望透過試辦跟業者一起來觀察你的情況他會比所謂的指引規定會先行才要試辦當我們指引出來以後就直接開辦了所以這個本來就是這個過程所以指引說大概哪時候會出來他六個月之內
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 從現在算六個月之內嗎?對那再請教一下,因為這一檔的版本比較不一樣就是說這個衍生性的商品那現在金管會是站在比較保守的一個立場嗎?不是,比較穩健,其實我們也不保守就是說我們覺得現階段我想各位都知道我們一般的衍生性商品都已經很不容易理解了
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 但是含含啊
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 報告委員這個部分會計會已經有類似委外一個研究那三月底四月初大家會出來會有一個指引給企業來使用所以是朝向是說可以列入這一個企業財報裡面嗎對就是用什麼樣的會計項目怎麼樣來入賬反正會去把它列進去就對了但是是要怎麼列的方法
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