| IVOD_ID |
167659 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167659 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T12:36:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T12:47:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad60531d2be04cc6a39c33d268b4a161496bd9997b7b3c5b8577b3be38506e5337c7fe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:36:05 - 12:47:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：一、 邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、 邀請核能安全委員會、經濟部、台灣電力股份有限公司就「我國核電廠再運轉之規劃及推動現況」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【3月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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主席,我請丹主委請陳主委上台,謝謝丹主委,你好我請教,我們國的負擔操作,在這個安全起訴過去的在世界裡面的屏蔽,所理真漂亮,是不是這樣?你有沒有了解? |
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我好像好像是好像是喔你都不敢傾聽你這樣對我們的操作這麼年輕有一個操作惡弱一個你也這麼不敢來你是怕不怕不敢不敢猜我跟你說齁我們全台灣在這個婦人運作的過程中尤其台電訓練出來的這批人員是世界一流的第一名 |
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我國的這個婦人操作啊在全世界的屏蔽是安全來的,是三明來的,超過日本所以不看歐元的規程日本的發生婦人事件,不表示台灣的發生我們的紀錄比他們減有夠多人家說四岸的水平,為了一個非核家園這個意識形態造成到今天孫氏參黨全部關掉 |
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2025達標了 中省我說2027 10月1日 老總統如果沒有重啟核電 我吃三碗牛肉麵我這一年多前就說了 因為我太了解他了2025達標了 所以現在重啟核電對西方的水平變成攏住回頭 金不還能源政策本來就是這樣 要很整理 |
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那麼來到你這邊就是要謙虔嘛謙虔你說台電的主柱安檢你看科訊多如何你們要做什麼事情你們夫妻要做什麼事情 |
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跟委員說明喔那 河岸會有訂一些執法跟審查導者那審查導者是技術層面的那可以提供給台電公司去參照好 如果這樣 你憑國 乎二手 乎三手 要通過這個安全檢驗當然 安全是參一點就不可以麻煩裡面都有幾項判決有超過一千判決 |
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有行啦 應該有一千四百幾行 最少啦每一行裡面的安全檢測 我們都不能馬虎不安全 我們就不需要這個訓練但是在這個安全過程中 你身為主管機關你只要扶你手到扶三手現在要通過這個安全檢測 做好準備他的基庭大概要多久 請你回答本席 |
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呃 現場所需要的時間還是要由台電公司規劃 我知道 就是說我告訴你 這不要吃不要吃 不吃吃不喝不要吃 你不能說你不知道嘛 |
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反悔你一定是有先做一個三八推演那這樣台電台台他的基金是一檔還是一檔四個月或者是一檔八個月那麼他按照行政來當然我如果跟他說什麼會有問題這樣可能會延長個月延四十五天不定喔 就是說你的推演的基金這個台電啊是完全Nomis全部隆重是按照規範來 |
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最近的時間 元本年有少許多久跟委員說明喔 這還是要由台電公司現場檢測的結果來講沒有你跟我說的聽不懂 全台灣人都在聽嘛你是一個主觀機構 我一定會 譬如說我要檢測台電的 我會知道台電要做到什麼時候 我會準備什麼人員請到幾個專家去檢測什麼項目你不可能不知道 你跟我說你都不知道 啊 全做台電 |
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不用怕啦 我說的而已啦 大家都不想要負責任這個時候台灣就需要負責任的人站出來別的 我們過今酒定位 過今負領債去抗假民生的壓力 專民受虧啊這個時候是做營養的時候 你還要跟我說 你不知道很可惜耶來 負三竅啦齁 |
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台電都沒有凸出 都沒有密鎖 它全部按照您原本規範裡面有機以過久的完成核安會主席一定確保核能安全的條件下台電徐副總請上台 |
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原本台電的紀委書報告上傳的時候請教你你按照若是都沒有訂單都一切順利最快 當然訂單有可能萬八天萬一天的我們知道嘛在你胸懷的情形下 多久的時間可以完成安全檢測教委員報告齁 你點點看你就會看到一條線是是是 我現在點點在給你看好 |
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基本上我們做所有的檢測跟評估都是依照美國法規,法規規定,我們叫做核能法規的概念,概念我們叫做道澤,1801-1所以它裡面有標準,有你應該怎樣的經濟經濟,包括我Token,技術 |
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基點 環境 材料 外圍設施所有這裡我告訴你 你們原本的基點多久委員你有了解但是現在目前我們遇到最大的變數我告訴你就是我設備 我做了以後這設備發現說我只存一天 兩天可以運轉而已不用啦 我設備 |
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因為在古石壁的維修原本的設計是以最低標我們知道40年代是這樣嘛 |
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可是,再多運轉,再運轉發覺設備的先手機可能三檔、兩檔、五檔,那與你們無關的那是針對科學設定檢測出來的設備當然設備出來,改動換了換,改動停了停這與你們無關,我現在是說你們所做可以再啟動 |
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會安全規則切齊完成 您的施政多久給我一個時間設備更新跟更換 其實是我主要是我在台中要做的因為我的員工都要運轉 我的眷屬也是都要送我嘛所以那部分 委員你說 比如說我訂一個名額那部分不是你可以可控的啦 來那部分算了 那部分如果正常這樣多久 |
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現在依照目前市場的行情,因為現在世界可能大家都在炒,沒問題啦,現在一個安全的MODAR就下單,下單我們當然要給它收起來,它最沒意義在那邊要炒個MODAR那有些外國人對聯邦就大 |
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我總是要檢測啊 因為我聽莫大爺的訴求到底有夠不夠你有跟共營商先報告說我們台灣已經重新啟動核能安全檢測嗎?我有你告解 我有你告解有同地說英雄嗎?目前我們不是說同地 我們有跟他詢問OK 好來 剛才我講的這個基礎如果都正常的話 你們整個會有多久? |
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要兩檔半 第二三十個月沒有兩檔半 |
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我跟大家說 我們做檢測的目標來看 我們是要可能要一年多 進兩年去做檢測通常在檢測裡面不包含 就說我檢測結果出來以後所以18個位至24個位 你是原本的設定檢測機啦 對對那麼有部分需要改建 部分需要精修 部分需要重新來的這就不是在你有測的期間裡面 沒錯 所以你 |
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十八個月至二十四個月的規定中若是這幾天可以恢復一年來恢復所以這樣就是兩年多至三年 |
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我國的這個婦人發電可以中心契用最近台電這麼怕命所有安全檢測過所以應該就是在那兩年半至三年可以中心發電我講這樣有夠精準嗎看我安全的檢測結果對啦 安全檢測我就要講的就符合你的標準嘛如果你說的3萬就2年嘛 |
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一年多兩年我給你借兩年嘛所以我們未來就是兩年多三年我們的福林發展可以重新啓發我說這樣有接近事實嗎?不不,還要我心臟的過程的時間,你要給他啊當然啦,他心臟,你怎麼做他就怎麼給你看嘛不然我再跟你說,誰人做誰人的你就做得都好,我再對前面來看 |
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我希望 和安會不能這樣啦因為這本來就可以分級檢測通過的東西 後面才有SOP的維修去做你不能說我全部 你當我都做好你還要再來 我跟你說這樣來拖差不多10個月至14個月啦 沒必要拜託 和安會這邊有聽到台電的訴求嗎有嘛 所以 董事 |
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補分完成,30%完成你就要補,40%完成就要補,50%完成就要補,讓他們先來給你看,看一看之後,他有一個安全的標準做到留情,照這樣來,到你做100%的時候,他後來來看就快了,這樣有可能就不用兩年半了喔,加油啦,大家做會怕病,好不好? |
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665.295 |
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謝謝謝龍介委員的質詢請官員回座 |