| IVOD_ID |
167613 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167613 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T11:13:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T11:24:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad60535af675d5c9b46b2952e56fd78df8e6504d1c9dfa77de20987a26c39964b221c95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:13:50 - 11:24:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆率所屬機關首長暨中央存款保險股份有限公司、監管相關機構有關之財團法人、臺灣證券交易所股份有限公司、臺灣期貨交易所股份有限公司、臺灣集中保管結算所股份有限公司等董事長、總經理列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我們請彭主委請今晚會彭主委主委好我剛才聽到很多立法院同仁都很在關心國人在買零股的事情尤其像現在台積電或是說像股王更不用講你一張要動則要百萬以上 |
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就是零股投資變成這個許多的投資人尤其是對一些年輕人來講它是一個基本上比較容易入門的一個投資的方式那我想請教一下這個主委因為我剛有聽就是說因為我們在買這個零股的時候其實會有時間上面的時間差那你也答應說在一個月之內會就這一個買零股的方式來做一些調整是不是 |
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就是說我請那個兩個交易所跟政企局去研議說未來在一個月之內告訴說我們未來會打算怎麼來研究這件事情怎麼來進程看能不能有一個比較具體的規劃方向那你知不知識就是說每個人持領股都是成為這個我們這個護國神山的這一個支持者的一部分 |
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我想買賣零股是因為有它的原因因為主要現在高價股大部分是沒辦法買起比如說幾個可能千元股我看今天那個股好像是一漲停就是一百萬那當然這是一個蠻特別不過我們看國外的 |
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股市其實那個高股價的個股是非常的普遍的我想這個是因為我們隨著我們的資本市場越來越成長越像國際化市場我剛才講說因為我們不能置外於以前就像以前我們說台灣在過去一直說我們是潛諜型現在我們每天盡量都已經上兆元還說自己潛諜大概也不對啦那我們越來越多的國際投資人在投資台灣除了本地的投資人以外我剛才講過資本市場 |
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要公平對待所有的交易人我想這部分大概是我們努力的方向但剛才提到我們現實在過去這麼長遠都是以整股交易那這部分整個交易習慣牽涉到券商投資人各種年齡層的投資人還有過去他投資的習慣要改變 |
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這些都是未來的很多制度轉換需要評估的風險所以這部分我們會責成我們兩個交易所這東西只要是未來很多的制度我們都要進行嚴密的研議就跟以前委員提到說不管這包括像T加1 T加2或是這些交易時間還有包括這個領股交易都是未來我們要邁入國際股市是非常重要去關注的一些的趨勢好 那主委你認為說現在很多這一個許多的投資人 |
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他就是用買零股的方式,支持國內的所有的不論是何種的產業啦那這樣也是以這個高科技或是AI產業為主啊那你認為這個現象正不正常?那你認為這個現象有鼓勵嗎? |
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我想資本市場是一個隨著我們環境演化過程當中就是說比如說就以我們最近我們台灣資本市場這過去一年來的表現我們歷經了這些過去歷史上台股歷史上最大的波動幅度 |
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但是我們也承受了整個市場各位可以看到就是它的表現跟過去非常不一樣各種不同的投資人在不同的階段然後這個投資然後其實上它有各種的行為這是一個成熟市場慢慢應該 |
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所以你認為這是承受市場的一個表現就是說我們有各式各樣的參與者就是說我們市場上有更多的參與者那實際上他有不同的預期不同的想法讓市場機制充分的發揮這本來就是一個市場應該要有的一個趨勢跟方向那請教一下主委就是說這個川普他宣布延後這個川習會一個月因為就是這個越南戰事大概也不知道哪時候會停所以他必須要留在華府 |
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但是這也表示說有可能這個美伊戰爭至少會持續在一個月以上那這樣子的話呢那金管會對於這個新的一個趨勢或是說新的一個發展那有做什麼樣的一個準備嗎其實我們不只對這件事情我們對很多事情都有做準備沒有就這件事情因為本來預期可以短時間結束實際拉長了 |
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其實我們一開始就有各種的劇本包括很快結束、很慢結束然後會變成持續的一個常態的狀況所以這個就在你們當初的這一個邊缺的這一個想像的劇本裡面就對了我們不能去猜說這是一定是哪個結果因為我們對於市場的關注一定是全方面的 |
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那現在如果時間拉長了,也在你們想像的劇本裡面那怎麼去做因應呢?這個我當然不會在這邊對外說明,但是這些的細節不用啦沒有,就等於說我們看還是一樣一個根本就是最終它還是影響到基本面只是剛開始消息出來會影響到投資人的情緒 |
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這時候呢假設今天大家就會去消化這樣的訊息比如說剛開始大家預期他很短結結束這時候呢這樣那個波動會呈現什麼樣態我們應該在這個時候是什麼時候判讀是一個正常的狀況還是說是一個已經市場失序我覺得一個資本市場成熟最重要讓他的 |
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這個市場機制能夠充分的發揮不要有任何其他非理性因素介入這時候我們就想說在這個情況會產生什麼非理性因素我們該怎麼樣去預防這兩週的台股有點像坐雲霄飛車啊暴漲又暴跌 |
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但是委員也慢慢注意到很多的消息如果說一直這樣因為我們資本市場會預先消化未來的訊息當一樣的訊息重複出現的時候它某種程度在前面已經反映過了所以除非是新的訊息我想這個大概就是一個資本市場我想像這麼大的一個事件 |
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那我們全球的股市比如說台灣從開始那你說那像比如說台股這禮拜表現你認為說是對於這個戰爭的這個消息面的這一個反應稍微鈍化了嗎其實他就是消化已經現在的訊息我覺得現在台灣的資本市場投資人已經有能力去消化各式樣式只要你給他一個充分的資訊跟時間但是我們也擔心的比如說像台積電這種比較大的權值股會成為這個外資的提款機啊 |
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我想主要是因為台積電這種世界級的公司已經成為國際各種資金不可或缺的標的這個進進出出跟比如說看壞看好其實已經不能用這個角度來看基本面當然是沒問題啦這大概都是消息面的問題我想各種的資金比如說你是一個 |
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共同基金或是這些基金你本來就有一個結帳這些東西本來他進出買賣本來就非常正常那我們只是看說以現在的體量以現在的情況還有像國際整個經濟情勢來看的話都在預期的範圍之內啊都在預期的範圍之內 |
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那請教一下這個虛擬資產服務法這個會期應該會送到立法院來做審查嗎如果正常的按照程序因為行政院已經完成審查就尊重行政院整個的程序那現在就是會把這個VASP跟這個穩定幣會納入這個納管就對了嗎對 開始有法源那請教主一個問題就是說 |
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現在這個金管會對於這個穩定幣運用於這個供應鏈還有跨境支付的一個態度因為現在就是說有很多這個台商他們可能是跟國外做生意但是他們可能是收到這個穩定幣他們可能是收到美元的穩定幣然後呢他們如果想要來這個把錢再匯回台灣的時候有面臨到國內的銀行不收還有會計帳如何認列的問題是不是 |
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第一個這有兩個問題一個就是說我們也請我們這個那個政經局針對目前是不是已經有發生這些問題就是會計的處理現在確實還要再來做做釐清比如說如何計算它的價值跟損益這些如何認定這確實是 |
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那再來就剛才講國際匯兌的部分其實我們從其他國家的經驗裡面其實這個鏈上的交易常常不需要透過這個正式的管道比如說你我之間你願意接受這個東西我們錢包就直接對付當然假設要由金融機構來做一個比如說保管承載這種東西確實是需要有個我們的許可 |
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跟那個制度的跟上這些都是未來都會把它補上就像我們現在開始在推動銀行在做那個虛擬資產保管業務這個就是個非常重要的點讓我們的銀行有辦法去承接像這個跟虛擬資產世界裡面做個連結所以這些問題要等到我們這一個專法 |
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這個部分的話我們大概都先在做準備但是真的要真的具有法律上的實施的效力還是要等到法律但是這種準備不能等到出來才開始再做準備因為現在問題就已經有產生了 |
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那你們的態度呢?對於這個運用於這個穩定幣運用於供應鏈還有跨境支付的一個你們的目前的一個態度沒有 我想喔 既然我們政策上已經決定未來要要有穩定幣的這樣一個市場那我們當然就要考慮它的出路這些出路呢 我們也會緊隨著國際上面他們現在做的比較安全的做法我們也會跟上 |
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那再請教一下現在這個境外發行這個穩定幣比如說在現在最大的就是這個USDC還有這個USDT那可是他們是不是因為他們是在美國管理沒有經過台灣那如果說我們是要求他們有對他們來台灣來做買賣的話是有什麼樣的一個監管的機制在嗎 |
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那我想是這樣就是未來我們的虛擬資產服務法裡面假設你要在那邊鑄造向台灣人不特定對象發行的話這時候就要經過我們的特許啦另外你在國際上已經發行的假設你要在我們的未來的那個VASP的交易平台交易的話要經過我們的許可 |
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可是 譬如說這兩個是最大啊他目前沒有經過我們的許可嘛對不對對 現在的話未來就是他經過就是說應該講你許可設為是他已經在國際上流通對但是譬如說你要未來在我們的合規的交易所交易的這些的標的都要經過我們的許可跟同意好 OK 好 謝謝主席 謝謝主委好 謝謝 |