| IVOD_ID |
167583 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167583 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T10:22:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T10:34:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad605341c7669fca88707252e56fd78df8e650854b2f19bd25f700aa0123905ad953be5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:22:31 - 10:34:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆率所屬機關首長暨中央存款保險股份有限公司、監管相關機構有關之財團法人、臺灣證券交易所股份有限公司、臺灣期貨交易所股份有限公司、臺灣集中保管結算所股份有限公司等董事長、總經理列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席各位出列席官員大家好最後請彭金榮彭主委請金管會彭主委等一下請OTC的董事長請OTC簡立中董事長委員長主委你好你運氣都不錯你來了以後台灣股市強強困川普說韓美國的股市要上看10萬點 |
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台灣有沒有機會突破五萬點大關這個這我還是一樣那句話回答我們金管會身為資本市場主管機關不會對未來做任何的預測一樣一句話我上次問的時候是一萬點會突破兩萬點你也講這句話那會不會到了五萬點你還是講這句話我想我答案應該都是一樣都一樣我們看到台灣的股市蓬勃的發展現在是不是已經進入了牛市 |
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這個答案也應該是一樣是怎麼樣一樣我們不會對現在市場對未來景氣的判斷做任何的評論儘管會最重要的就是營造一個好的氛圍是的 |
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國際的資金源源不斷的滾滾而來那你有沒有大概統計一下現在每天的日均量加起來大概多少現在大概是8600在8500億左右8000多億那如果再加OTC還有加上新櫃創新創櫃買賣整個加起來有多少應該應該這個是 |
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對,大概九千八百差不多一兆快到一兆快到一兆啦那在這個比例上是不是有點需要怎麼樣來加強的因為自然能的部分現在開戶數有多少現在大概一千三百萬吧經常在使用的戶頭有多少 |
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七八百萬戶啦 海環都一直慢慢在增加小白也都加進來了我們看到每一波都有不一樣的故事從大概前年航海王後來就是台積電護國神山再來就是現在AI所有的周邊的這些公司什麼時候會輪到金融跟船廠 |
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我想剛才就是一樣假設你真的被市場肯定未來具有成長的前景市場效率性高的話自然會看見其實這個結構上跟展現出來的數據是有它的內容不一樣的內涵現在外資的持股比例有多少現在大概是48 |
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每天當沖的量大概占1兆的裡面大概占百分之多少?剛剛前委員提在47%所以1兆多大概有45、48%全部都是靠當沖 |
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所以你覺得這樣的一個情況再加上外資來的部分那個QP還有還有什麼我們外資來的還有什麼FINIFINI的量有多少外資的交易嗎對剛剛同學講三十幾趴不然請那個張正山好了張局長 |
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那還是請 因為我們現在是那個喔 現在換人了是不是 喔 張振山是這樣我剛遇到他 我說 欸 你怎麼落跑 |
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他在的時候,他好比證券市場的護國神山我看他那穩穩穩穩的上,我說這下算嘛,你那兇兇就滅了轉任到別的地方,不曉得現在新任的可不可以撐得住那個,報告委員齁,我們外資現在的成交量大概35% |
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再補充一下市場交易所當沖的量平均來講的話也是36%沒有到47%所以基本上交易所的話當沖的部分沒有高到40%我們看到現在台灣的台股這樣走走走甚至有的股價 |
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主委股價已經漲到一萬多塊我的天啊這個在十年二十年三十年前完全想像不到一張股票股價一萬多塊主委你有沒有在買股票沒有你沒有買股票對我們不能買股票我啊啊你都沒有買股票怎麼樣融入其中然後掌握其中的奧妙我們這樣才客觀 |
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這樣客觀喔那你客觀要知道裡面更多的情況因為現在大概有60%以上傳產的部分有的甚至低於20年的平均價格這是有一點就是資訊也好有一些外資來也好就變成這個市場都有一些不同的力道存在外資來他會去買傳產嗎 |
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當然也有啊 只是比重上可能沒那麼高比例很低很低啦那我們請簡董好了 |
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那剛剛跟委員更正一下因為剛剛有委員質詢那個當沖他資料47剛剛我們董事長已經更正了對的也差不多啦他一直在成長當沖的量一直在成長那請教一下那個檢總市長面對這樣的事外資來買本土的這些股票大概比例佔多少 |
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假設100億來說,買全產會有多少?跟委員報告,櫃買中心外資這個交易的比重大概25%左右如果買全產的勒? |
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其實其實委員我可不可以說明一下其實傳產跟所謂現在我們AI或者是相關的這些產業其實我們現在並不是這樣分因為我們一直在講供應鏈供應鏈的觀念現在有很多的 |
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我們所定義的譬如說做材料的譬如說做機械的其實他跟這一個AI的供應鏈或半導體供應鏈他們都有幫他做設計這個材料或者設計這個機械所以他們會進入他的供應鏈裡面所以其實我想解釋的是說這整個的供應鏈其實是很比較龐大的不單純去分這個是不是傳產 |
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他如果說他做的東西是很很舊的很傳統以前的東西都沒有新的研發或發展的話那他可能就會歸類說比較沒有辦法去沾到這一個整個趨勢的這個我理解了因為你整個展開來也許他有金屬加工部分他有一些螺絲等等 |
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那我現在是講的意思是說當大家全部重心都放在未來的一個趨勢好 譬如說我們現在講未來的趨勢那主委你告訴我們未來的趨勢是什麼對 我想說未來的趨勢其實我剛才講我是一個假設我已經王主委我是博士你是教授啦 所以不知道未來趨勢大概就是低軌衛星嘛台灣未來的發展 |
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就是這個人型機器人嘛另外一個就是無人機嘛這個都是大家通通都知道的一般都知道的事情所以我現在的意思說我們很多的重心不斷的放在Focus在這幾個部分而忘記了很多基本的傳產比如說銀件銀件股來說有很多都是很認真很辛苦踏實在做 |
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可是一般台灣給的本益比就非常低啊那我請教前董事長好了前董就半導體來說台灣給的本益比是多少 |
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現在半導體 因為我們看個別公司的情況不一樣有的可能有到 譬如說50的這個ratio台灣嗎好 那大陸能給多少我們整個平均是30幾 35左右吧對 好 那PCB的部分 台灣給多少 |
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PCB 最近有一些PCB其實本益比還不錯因為他PCB他有做ABF載板有一些都是直接是AI必須要用到有一些很高端現在他的技術層級非常高所以我覺得每一家產業或公司他的這個PE Ratio或他產生的PE他的這個是跟他的研發跟他製造的這個項目有沒有走到 |
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我們有很多的台商因為在台灣的人見度不高獲得台灣青睞的程度不高很多跑到大陸去為什麼 主委您知道為什麼嗎 |
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因為很多這些過去的台商朋友在台灣要借錢借不到要給予金融的支持都不要全部有幾千都跑到大陸去了沒有想應該這個情況如果是個案的話應該是就是個案一夜之秋啊我可以累積很多個案改天給主委知道一下好我們再繞回來時間關係喔 |
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那台灣現在發展的話我很怕就是有很多失衡或者有一些基本的傳產大家看不到沒有關心台灣有的百工百業我們要照顧更多的一般中小企業這是很重要的主委對不對當然我想政府職責應該照顧每一個行業每一個國人好 再來問的一個就是說 |
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我們現在乘以下,每天均量一兆,請問政府收的稅收多少?那個用那稅率一成,大概...政交稅?千分之一點四二五,兩邊來回千分之三一天大概二十四億,因為扣掉當沖 |
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最後一個不好意思主席站起來最後一個題目就是台灣的證券加稅一天大概抽24億一年兩百四五十個營業日下來抽了五六千億主委會不會太重這是國家財政稅收的問題我不方便說如果跟國際接軌 |
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證交稅 適當的往下調升到千分之一你覺得有沒有機會我們國際的稅制比台灣有它很獨特的地方因為我們沒有課證券交易所得稅嘛那有些國家有課這個他就不課交易稅這個有各種不同的歷史因素這可能沒辦法就這樣簡單的所以現在台灣的股民溫水煮青蛙 |
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每天一兆一兆滾下去一年就是被政府抽了五六千億這個非常的不公平啊稅制的部分我們也三兆多這些股民就被收了大概六千億的稅十年就多少就六兆 |
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所以這個應該如果持續那麼大量的話證交稅是應該要被檢討是應該要調降的不能一直針對這個股民不斷地抽他們的血抽他們的稅好不好好 謝謝所以主委也贊成請主委用書面回答 |