| IVOD_ID |
167480 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167480 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-16T09:48:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-16T09:58:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e545302d1642c5f6a5eac211067c25f60bc6757ec415edbe52953553f5c94752dae08b56ec4be6015ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:57 - 09:58:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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請鍾嘉斌委員鍾嘉斌委員也是本委會初登場時間6加2謝謝 |
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沒關係 你要準備一下 |
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好 首席 在場的委員先進 列協政局教授 官員會長 公眾夥伴 媒體記者女士先生有請葉主任委員 國會葉主委委員長葉主委我好像是第一次在這個經濟委員會跟你請教我最近有觀察到國會因為你來好像變得更活潑來我們看一下 |
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WBC你看了沒?看了你們國發會大家看到廢宅擠出紅布朗開不開心?開心所以你們馬上說趕快聯繫廢宅的經紀人我要給他就業金卡是這樣嗎?是是喔?結果呢廢宅有沒有給你回應呢?還是運動部棒協經紀人回應怎麼樣?廢宅要不要帶他的新婚太太一起來台灣用就業金卡? |
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還在聯繫當中 但我們那個就業金卡提供他非常多的一個哪些好處 哪些就業金卡有什麼好處第一個就是說他可以沒有次數的可以進出台灣然後放寬 這是放寬公眾房 就好像委員的那一個簡報上面重點是大家看到眷屬可以依親居留我想台灣的球迷都希望看到他們兩夫婦一個在啦啦隊 一個在球場上拚搏 對不對 |
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但是我覺得除了肯定之外呢我們來看一下就業金卡應該不是這麼第一次嘛有沒有過去哪些就業金卡的方向潛力譬如說YouTube的陳世俊還有經濟領域台積電的人資處處長吳思廷經濟領域還有MBA的霍華德運動領域對不對我們國外就業金卡有哪些領域總共有12個領域有12個領域好那你的目的是什麼目的是找這些人來做你的招牌嗎你背後的政策目標是什麼 |
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我背後的政策目標就是促進台灣的企業產業的轉型我想也是因為他們做了航棒之後能夠吸引更多不亞於他們或者說他們雖然是亮眼的但是有其他能夠大量的來投入為我們台灣所用對不對對好我們看一下但是我們看一下你目前就業經考的申請比例有點怪怪的 |
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你看經濟科技教育呢加起來就超過了四分之三其他的法律建築國防運動才有一趴而已12個領域當中我們為什麼會有出現這樣的一個分布的極端分配呢主委你的看法是怎樣因為我們國內相對的就是說最近這幾年半導體相對的比較蓬勃發展所以對於這部分的需求相對比較多好 但我們會滾動式檢討我的意思是說 |
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這些就業金卡是不是冰山一角反映出底下台灣在這12個領域的人才需求的不同數量好那很好那請問你告訴我台灣在這12個領域的人才需求你們有統計有預估嗎你們什麼機制來判斷台灣在科技領域需要多少人幾萬人台灣在運動領域需要多少人所以我們就從這些領域當中透過就業金卡吸引這些人來有沒有一個這樣的一個規劃目標 |
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有沒有你們吸引人才有沒有分12個領域希望有個目標數我今年這個領域要吸引一萬五千個人有沒有我們有依照那個對於每一個領域他未來的那個人才需求我們有做一些推估啦推估好那這個推估怎麼推估出來的你攬財的目標如何設定是反映出產業的需求還是反映出目前我們國內人才培養不足的缺口到底你是問了哪些部門問了教育部問了經濟部還是問了勞動部 |
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產業的需求也有以及國家政策的有沒有一個明確的一個評估方法一個機制有沒有 |
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你這個提供給本席 我很好奇因為國發會很重要 很樞紐你必須了解勞動部那邊現場的情況怎麼樣產業面未來的需求怎麼樣教育部人才的培育的未來供給量怎麼樣所以你對於這個國際人才的膽才你才會設定目標 是不是這樣對 我們會後會同書面資料來現在台灣的人才缺口擴大中現在全世界少子化第一名是哪一個國家 生育率 |
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可能不是我們就是韓國沒有啦 韓國已經被我們超越了我們現在是最後一名啦新加坡也很嚴重啊我們才看到二月份的新生兒跌破7000現在才6000多 這個大家都新聞啊所以呢 魏哲家說台灣人才不夠那怎麼辦 人才缺口 少子化不足用什麼方式 其他國家怎麼做 往下看 |
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新加坡跟日本都跟台灣一樣面臨少子化的新加坡啊他沒有到什麼就業金卡人家功成名就的才邀請他他從大學端就出手啊我常去新加坡啊他們的新加坡從馬來西亞鎖定那些優秀的高中生招引來新加坡大學過了三年兩年他們就評估四年就業要畢業的時候他就請新加坡的公司延攬他還給他一個PR你知道這樣做嗎 |
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你們有跟教育部這樣構想嗎?台灣每年收那麼多的境外生,這些有沒有我們未來需要的產業人才?有,我們對於那一個僑外生來我們台灣,念完書之後留在台灣的那一個...你們跟教育部有合作嗎?有有有合作計畫給我了解一下好,日本不一樣,日本的他不從大學上多少?他嘛,重金懸賞啊!他出來條件比台灣好啊!你知道日本的條件有沒有比台灣好? |
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你有沒有比較過?人家開的薪資水準比台灣高,同樣是國際人才,他跑到日本,他跑到台灣來幹嘛?你了解嗎?有沒有做過比較?這個比較結果也給本席看一下,我要了解喔,來往下看喔修法後,我們去年才修法,修法後台灣的纜財稍微有一點點提升但是從舊保來講,舊的保險來講,台灣的限制是要永久居留權才可以日本不限定用居留權就可以用啊 |
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適用勞退制度 台灣是排除中階技術人員日本是不限工作身份都有用 主委你知道嗎 |
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這個不了解對不對你們的同仁要趕快幫你做跨國比較搶人才不是台灣自己內部的產業在競爭我們要跟其他國家競爭好嗎好那這個部分要做好那往下看那纜財我們還有哪些條件可以放我們看一下我們的權益保障依照身份我們有分級影響他的就業保險勞退跟補助目前最嚴重的就是中階技術人才他沒有辦法自由轉換雇主工作彈性低對不對這個部分要不要檢討 |
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好那什麼時候可以給本席一個檢討後你們的評估報告我們會後會後會後是什麼時候待會就可以跟你拿嗎一個月嗎一個月可以好那一個具體的我們目前雖然上會席修改了兩台專法但相較於其他鄰近的國家我們是不是有需要強化的地方我也希望這個國發會要好好的去做一個思考好最後我們來看一下 |
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攬財專法,我們因為人生的少,人才不夠所以去外國求便宜,開條件去吸引人家這不是台語說的不是套路啦最後還是要怎樣?生育率要提高嘛生育率提高是國發會的責任嗎?請問郭文工,權責是誰?老跟少是那個陳時中政委在督導老跟少是他督導,那衛福部要去對不對? |
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504.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
但是你們也可以貢獻是是是懶拿的人才廢仔跟他老婆會不會在想台灣生小孩會不會會我覺得不會最近D卡一個什麼台灣的職場怎麼對待孕婦的有沒有看到這篇文章有沒有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
506.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
527.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
有沒有人知道我們的職場的不友善對家庭的生育不友善不只是政府的制度沒有誘因而已我們的職場文化對於懷孕這件事情是不友善的這當然不是國發會的權責但是國發會你要去統合其他部會如果說這些懶男的財願意在台灣長留久用是我們的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
528.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
549.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
他如果決定在台灣定居 移民 也是我們內政部要去爭取他如果在這邊生小孩 更好小孩生了他就在這裡穩定了 是不是這樣子所以你的攬財專法只是中間這一段但是往前往後延伸勞動部的職場條件 經濟部的企業文化我們教育部的對境外生的招生 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
550.979 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
573.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
還有到我們的衛福部對生育的補助 這個都是需要的來 請告訴我在這一塊懶財專法 你後續有沒有可以幫忙第一 定期的評估機制 就是人才的需求缺口這個你答應要給我一個月後另外 人才長留久安的配套措施有沒有包括友善職場 讓這些懶來的財在職場的時候對他們的生育有友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
574.582 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
590.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
可不可以是你一個方法可以可以好謝謝我們希望看到呢廢宅帶他的新婚老婆在台灣不只辦了就業金卡還在台灣生小孩好不好好你答應了嗎沒有啦我會努力讓這樣的事情發生是會發生好謝謝 |