| IVOD_ID |
167480 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167480 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-16T09:48:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-16T09:58:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e545302d1642c5f6a5eac211067c25f60bc6757ec415edbe52953553f5c94752dae08b56ec4be6015ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:57 - 09:58:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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請鍾嘉斌委員鍾嘉斌委員也是本委會初登場時間6加2謝謝 |
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沒關係 你要準備一下 |
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好 首席 在場的委員先進 列協政局教授 官員會長 公眾夥伴 媒體記者女士先生有請葉主任委員 國會葉主委委員長葉主委我好像是第一次在這個經濟委員會跟你請教我最近有觀察到國會因為你來好像變得更活潑來我們看一下 |
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WBC你看了沒?看了你們國發會大家看到廢宅擠出紅布朗開不開心?開心所以你們馬上說趕快聯繫廢宅的經紀人我要給他就業金卡是這樣嗎?是是喔?結果呢廢宅有沒有給你回應呢?還是運動部棒協經紀人回應怎麼樣?廢宅要不要帶他的新婚太太一起來台灣用就業金卡? |
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還在聯繫當中 但我們那個就業金卡提供他非常多的一個哪些好處 哪些就業金卡有什麼好處第一個就是說他可以沒有次數的可以進出台灣然後放寬 這是放寬公眾房 就好像委員的那一個簡報上面重點是大家看到眷屬可以依親居留我想台灣的球迷都希望看到他們兩夫婦一個在啦啦隊 一個在球場上拚搏 對不對 |
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但是我覺得除了肯定之外呢我們來看一下就業金卡應該不是這麼第一次嘛有沒有過去哪些就業金卡的方向潛力譬如說YouTube的陳世俊還有經濟領域台積電的人資處處長吳思廷經濟領域還有MBA的霍華德運動領域對不對我們國外就業金卡有哪些領域總共有12個領域有12個領域好那你的目的是什麼目的是找這些人來做你的招牌嗎你背後的政策目標是什麼 |
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我背後的政策目標就是促進台灣的企業產業的轉型我想也是因為他們做了航棒之後能夠吸引更多不亞於他們或者說他們雖然是亮眼的但是有其他能夠大量的來投入為我們台灣所用對不對對好我們看一下但是我們看一下你目前就業經考的申請比例有點怪怪的 |
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你看經濟科技教育呢加起來就超過了四分之三其他的法律建築國防運動才有一趴而已12個領域當中我們為什麼會有出現這樣的一個分布的極端分配呢主委你的看法是怎樣因為我們國內相對的就是說最近這幾年半導體相對的比較蓬勃發展所以對於這部分的需求相對比較多好 但我們會滾動式檢討我的意思是說 |
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這些就業金卡是不是冰山一角反映出底下台灣在這12個領域的人才需求的不同數量好那很好那請問你告訴我台灣在這12個領域的人才需求你們有統計有預估嗎你們什麼機制來判斷台灣在科技領域需要多少人幾萬人台灣在運動領域需要多少人所以我們就從這些領域當中透過就業金卡吸引這些人來有沒有一個這樣的一個規劃目標 |
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有沒有你們吸引人才有沒有分12個領域希望有個目標數我今年這個領域要吸引一萬五千個人有沒有我們有依照那個對於每一個領域他未來的那個人才需求我們有做一些推估啦推估好那這個推估怎麼推估出來的你攬財的目標如何設定是反映出產業的需求還是反映出目前我們國內人才培養不足的缺口到底你是問了哪些部門問了教育部問了經濟部還是問了勞動部 |
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產業的需求也有以及國家政策的有沒有一個明確的一個評估方法一個機制有沒有 |
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你這個提供給本席 我很好奇因為國發會很重要 很樞紐你必須了解勞動部那邊現場的情況怎麼樣產業面未來的需求怎麼樣教育部人才的培育的未來供給量怎麼樣所以你對於這個國際人才的膽才你才會設定目標 是不是這樣對 我們會後會同書面資料來現在台灣的人才缺口擴大中現在全世界少子化第一名是哪一個國家 生育率 |
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可能不是我們就是韓國沒有啦 韓國已經被我們超越了我們現在是最後一名啦新加坡也很嚴重啊我們才看到二月份的新生兒跌破7000現在才6000多 這個大家都新聞啊所以呢 魏哲家說台灣人才不夠那怎麼辦 人才缺口 少子化不足用什麼方式 其他國家怎麼做 往下看 |
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新加坡跟日本都跟台灣一樣面臨少子化的新加坡啊他沒有到什麼就業金卡人家功成名就的才邀請他他從大學端就出手啊我常去新加坡啊他們的新加坡從馬來西亞鎖定那些優秀的高中生招引來新加坡大學過了三年兩年他們就評估四年就業要畢業的時候他就請新加坡的公司延攬他還給他一個PR你知道這樣做嗎 |
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你們有跟教育部這樣構想嗎?台灣每年收那麼多的境外生,這些有沒有我們未來需要的產業人才?有,我們對於那一個僑外生來我們台灣,念完書之後留在台灣的那一個...你們跟教育部有合作嗎?有有有合作計畫給我了解一下好,日本不一樣,日本的他不從大學上多少?他嘛,重金懸賞啊!他出來條件比台灣好啊!你知道日本的條件有沒有比台灣好? |
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你有沒有比較過?人家開的薪資水準比台灣高,同樣是國際人才,他跑到日本,他跑到台灣來幹嘛?你了解嗎?有沒有做過比較?這個比較結果也給本席看一下,我要了解喔,來往下看喔修法後,我們去年才修法,修法後台灣的纜財稍微有一點點提升但是從舊保來講,舊的保險來講,台灣的限制是要永久居留權才可以日本不限定用居留權就可以用啊 |
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適用勞退制度 台灣是排除中階技術人員日本是不限工作身份都有用 主委你知道嗎 |
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這個不了解對不對你們的同仁要趕快幫你做跨國比較搶人才不是台灣自己內部的產業在競爭我們要跟其他國家競爭好嗎好那這個部分要做好那往下看那纜財我們還有哪些條件可以放我們看一下我們的權益保障依照身份我們有分級影響他的就業保險勞退跟補助目前最嚴重的就是中階技術人才他沒有辦法自由轉換雇主工作彈性低對不對這個部分要不要檢討 |
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435.386 |
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462.443 |
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好那什麼時候可以給本席一個檢討後你們的評估報告我們會後會後會後是什麼時候待會就可以跟你拿嗎一個月嗎一個月可以好那一個具體的我們目前雖然上會席修改了兩台專法但相較於其他鄰近的國家我們是不是有需要強化的地方我也希望這個國發會要好好的去做一個思考好最後我們來看一下 |
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攬財專法,我們因為人生的少,人才不夠所以去外國求便宜,開條件去吸引人家這不是台語說的不是套路啦最後還是要怎樣?生育率要提高嘛生育率提高是國發會的責任嗎?請問郭文工,權責是誰?老跟少是那個陳時中政委在督導老跟少是他督導,那衛福部要去對不對? |
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但是你們也可以貢獻是是是懶拿的人才廢仔跟他老婆會不會在想台灣生小孩會不會會我覺得不會最近D卡一個什麼台灣的職場怎麼對待孕婦的有沒有看到這篇文章有沒有看過 |
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有沒有人知道我們的職場的不友善對家庭的生育不友善不只是政府的制度沒有誘因而已我們的職場文化對於懷孕這件事情是不友善的這當然不是國發會的權責但是國發會你要去統合其他部會如果說這些懶男的財願意在台灣長留久用是我們的希望 |
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他如果決定在台灣定居 移民 也是我們內政部要去爭取他如果在這邊生小孩 更好小孩生了他就在這裡穩定了 是不是這樣子所以你的攬財專法只是中間這一段但是往前往後延伸勞動部的職場條件 經濟部的企業文化我們教育部的對境外生的招生 |
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還有到我們的衛福部對生育的補助 這個都是需要的來 請告訴我在這一塊懶財專法 你後續有沒有可以幫忙第一 定期的評估機制 就是人才的需求缺口這個你答應要給我一個月後另外 人才長留久安的配套措施有沒有包括友善職場 讓這些懶來的財在職場的時候對他們的生育有友善 |
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可不可以是你一個方法可以可以好謝謝我們希望看到呢廢宅帶他的新婚老婆在台灣不只辦了就業金卡還在台灣生小孩好不好好你答應了嗎沒有啦我會努力讓這樣的事情發生是會發生好謝謝 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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謝謝，我初登場手腳比較慢。 |
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0.273 |
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主席 |
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2026-03-16T09:49:27.023000+08:00 |
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沒關係，準備一下。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:49:52.434000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:49:59.661000+08:00 |
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主席、在場的委員先進、列席的政府機關首長、官員、會場的工作夥伴、媒體記者女士、先生，有請葉主任委員。 |
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主席 |
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請國發會葉主委。 |
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0.714 |
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葉主任委員俊顯 |
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委員早。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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葉主委好。 |
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0.75 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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我好像是第一次在經濟委員會跟你請教，我最近有觀察到國發會因為你來好像變得更活潑喔！ |
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0.949 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:14.540000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:16.641000+08:00 |
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WBC你看了沒？看了。 |
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1 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:16.641000+08:00 |
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1 |
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看了喔！ |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:16.961000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:20.782000+08:00 |
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你們國發會、大家看到費仔擊出紅不讓，開不開心？開心。 |
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0.773 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:21.262000+08:00 |
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所以你們馬上說趕快聯繫費仔的經紀人，要給他就業金卡，是這樣嗎？是。 |
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0.931 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:27.224000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:27.324000+08:00 |
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結果呢？ |
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1 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:28.005000+08:00 |
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費仔有沒有給你回應呢？ |
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0.8 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-16T09:50:31.126000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-16T09:50:34.147000+08:00 |
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運動部、棒協、經紀人的回復是怎麼樣？ |
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0.8 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-16T09:50:34.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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2026-03-16T09:50:37.848000+08:00 |
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費仔要不要帶他的新婚太太一起來臺灣用就業金卡？ |
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0.909 |
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葉主任委員俊顯 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:39.229000+08:00 |
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還在聯繫當中，但因為…… |
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0.667 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:39.229000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:40.450000+08:00 |
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還在聯繫當中。 |
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0 |
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葉主任委員俊顯 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:40.450000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:42.592000+08:00 |
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對，但我們那個就業金卡有提供非常多的功能。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:44.173000+08:00 |
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是，哪些好處？ |
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0.8 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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就業金卡有什麼好處？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
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2026-03-16T09:50:56.004000+08:00 |
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第一個，他沒有限次數地可以進出臺灣，這是放寬工作……就好像委員簡報上面寫的。 |
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0.818 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:56.124000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:50:58.727000+08:00 |
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重點是，大家看到，眷屬可以依親居留。對。 |
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0.938 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-16T09:50:59.027000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:02.871000+08:00 |
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我想臺灣的球迷都希望看到他們夫婦倆，一個在啦啦隊，一個在球場上拚搏，對不對？嗯。 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:04.852000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:09.455000+08:00 |
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好，但是我覺得除了肯定之外，我們來看一下，就業金卡應該不是第一次嘛！ |
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0.967 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:10.095000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:21.581000+08:00 |
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過去有沒有哪些有發放就業金卡的前例，譬如YouTube的陳士駿、經濟領域，台積電的人資處處長吳詩婷、經濟領域，還有NBA的霍華德、運動領域，對不對？ |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:21.581000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:23.082000+08:00 |
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我們國發會的就業金卡有哪些領域？ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:24.302000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:25.983000+08:00 |
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總共有12個領域。 |
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1 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:26.103000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:27.984000+08:00 |
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有12個領域，那你的目的是什麼？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:27.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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2026-03-16T09:51:29.905000+08:00 |
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目的是找這些人來做你的招牌嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:29.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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2026-03-16T09:51:31.426000+08:00 |
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你背後的政策目標是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:32.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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2026-03-16T09:51:37.245000+08:00 |
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我背後的政策目標就是促進臺灣產業的轉型跟研發。 |
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0.864 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-16T09:51:37.465000+08:00 |
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我想也是因為他們做了招牌之後，能夠吸引更多不亞於他們，或者他們雖然是亮眼的，但是有其他的人才能夠大量地投入為我們臺灣所用，對不對？對。好。 |
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0.903 |
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鍾委員佳濱 |
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2026-03-16T09:51:49.657000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T09:52:06.324000+08:00 |
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但是我們看目前就業金卡的申請，各領域的比例有點怪怪的，你看經濟、科技、教育加起來就超過了四分之三，其他的法律、建築、國防、運動才只有1%而已，在12個領域當中為什麼會出現這樣的極端分布呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:06.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-16T09:52:08.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
主委，你的看法是怎樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:08.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-16T09:52:18.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
因為我們國內最近這幾年半導體相對地比較蓬勃發展，所以對於這部分的需求相對比較多，但我們會滾動式檢討。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:18.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-16T09:52:28.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我的意思是，這些就業金卡是不是冰山一角，反映出底下的、臺灣在這12個領域人才需求的不同數量？嗯。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:29.994000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-16T09:52:35.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
很好，那請你告訴我，臺灣在這12個領域的人才需求，你們有統計、預估嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:35.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-16T09:52:46.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
你們用什麼機制來判斷臺灣在科技領域需要多少人、幾萬人，臺灣在運動領域需要多少人，所以我們就從這些領域當中，透過就業金卡吸引這些人來，有沒有這樣的一個規劃目標？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:50.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-16T09:52:55.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你們吸引人才有沒有分12個領域希望有一個目標數，像是今年這個領域要吸引1萬5,000個人，有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-16T09:52:57.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:03.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
對於每一個領域未來的人才需求，我們有做一些推估。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:03.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:04.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
推估，好。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:04.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:05.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
這個是怎麼推估出來的？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:06.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:15.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
你攬才的目標如何設定，是反映出產業的需求，還是反映出目前我們國內人才培養不足的缺口，到底你是問了哪些部門？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:15.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:16.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
問了教育部、問了經濟部，還是問了勞動部？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:19.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:21.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
產業的需求也有，以及國家政策的方向也有。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:21.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:25.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
有沒有一個明確的評估方法、一個機制？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:26.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:28.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
你把這個提供給本席，我很好奇。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:29.031000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:43.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
因為國發會很重要、很樞紐，你必須了解勞動部那邊現場的情況怎麼樣、產業面未來的需求怎麼樣、教育部人才培育的未來供給量怎麼樣，對於國際人才的攬才，你才會設定目標，是不是這樣？對。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:43.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:46.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我們會後提供書面資料給委員。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:47.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:52.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
臺灣人才缺口擴大中，現在全世界少子化第一名的是哪一個國家？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:52.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:52.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
生育率。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:53.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-16T09:53:55.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
可能不是我們就是韓國。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-16T09:53:55.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:00.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
沒有，韓國已經被我們超越了，我們現在是最後一名了，新加坡也很嚴重。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:01.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:10.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我們才看到2月份的新生兒跌破7,000，現在才六千多，這是新聞，所以魏哲家說臺灣人才不夠。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:10.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:10.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
那怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:10.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:14.509000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
人才缺口，少子化、不足，用什麼方式，其他國家怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:14.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:15.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
往下看。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:16.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:25.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
新加坡、日本都跟臺灣一樣面臨少子化，新加坡沒有什麼就業金卡、等人家功成名就才邀請他，從大學端就出手了。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:25.835000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:40.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我常去新加坡，新加坡從馬來西亞鎖定那些優秀的高中生，招引來新加坡大學，過了3年、2年，他們就評估，4年就業……要畢業的時候就請新加坡的公司延攬他，還給他PR，你知道這樣的作法嗎？嗯。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:43.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:44.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
你們跟教育部有這樣的構想嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:44.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:48.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
臺灣每年收那麼多境外生，這些有沒有我們未來需要的產業人才？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:49.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:56.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
有，對於僑外生來臺灣念完書之後，留在臺灣的那個…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:56.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-16T09:54:58.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
你們跟教育部有合作嗎？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-16T09:54:58.615000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:00.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
合作計畫給我了解一下。好。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:00.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:10.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
日本不一樣，日本不是從大學端著手，他重金懸賞，他出的條件比臺灣好，就你所知，日本的條件有沒有比臺灣好，你有沒有比較過？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:10.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:15.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
人家開的薪資水準比臺灣高，同樣是國際人才，他跑到日本，他跑到臺灣來幹嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:16.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:16.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你了解嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:16.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:17.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
有沒有做過比較？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:17.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:20.125000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
有，我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:20.125000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:21.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
給我一份報告，我要了解。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:22.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:41.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
往下看，我們去年才修法，修法後臺灣的攬才稍微有一點點提升，但是從就業保險來講，臺灣還限制是要永久居留權才可以，日本不限定永居權皆可用；適用勞退制度：臺灣是排除中階技術人員，日本是不限工作身分皆可用，主委，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:43.867000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:44.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
你對這個不了解，對不對？對…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:44.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:47.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
你們的同仁要趕快幫你做跨國比較。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:47.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:48.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
好，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:47.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:53.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
搶人才，不是臺灣自己內部的產業在競爭，我們要跟其他國家競爭，好嗎？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:53.910000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:54.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
這個部分一定要做好。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:54.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-16T09:55:57.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
再往下看，攬才方面我們還有哪些條件可以放寬？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-16T09:55:59.052000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:08.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
權益保障依照身分我們有分級，影響他的就業保險、勞退跟補助，目前最嚴重的就是中階技術人才沒有辦法自由轉換雇主，工作彈性低，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:08.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:12.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
這個部分要不要檢討？要。要，好。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:12.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:14.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
那什麼時候可以給本席一個你們檢討後的評估報告？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:16.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:17.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我們會後提供給委員。 |
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0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:17.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:22.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
會後是什麼時候，待會兒就可以跟你拿嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:22.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:23.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
一個月嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:23.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:25.554000+08:00 |
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一個月可以，好，那你有一個具體的……好。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:26.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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2026-03-16T09:56:37.701000+08:00 |
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雖然我們上會期修過了攬才專法，但相較於其他鄰近的國家，我們是不是有需要強化的地方，我也希望國發會要好好思考。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:38.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:50.389000+08:00 |
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最後我們來看一下攬才專法，我們因為生得少、人才不夠，所以去外國撿現成的，開條件去吸引人家，就像臺語說的這不是「頭路」啦！嗯。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:51.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:52.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
最後還是要怎樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:52.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:53.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
生育率要提高。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:54.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-16T09:56:57.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
生育率提高是國發會的責任嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-16T09:56:57.614000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:00.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
依行政院的分工，權責是在誰？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.417 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:00.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:03.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
老跟少是陳時中政委在督導。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:03.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:05.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
老跟少是他督導，那衛福部要去做，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:06.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:07.593000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
但是你們也可以貢獻。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:08.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:14.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
攬來的人才，費仔跟他老婆會不會想在臺灣生小孩？會。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:14.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:15.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
我覺得不會。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:15.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:21.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
最近Dcard有一個發文是臺灣的職場怎麼對待孕婦的，有沒有看到這篇文章？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.771 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:23.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:35.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
知不知道我們職場的不友善，對家庭的生育不友善，不只是政府的制度沒有誘因而已，我們的職場文化對於懷孕這件事情是不友善的。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:35.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:44.885000+08:00 |
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這當然不是國發會的權責，但是國發會要去統合其他部會，如果這些攬來的人才願意在臺灣長留久用，是我們的希望……是。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.898 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:45.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-03-16T09:57:55.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
他如果決定在臺灣定居、移民，也是我們內政部要去爭取；他如果要在這邊生小孩更好，小孩生了，他就在這裡穩定了，是不是這樣子？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-03-16T09:57:55.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:11.623000+08:00 |
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所以你的攬才專法只是中間這一段，但是往前、往後延伸，勞動部的職場條件、經濟部的企業文化、教育部對境外生的招生，還有衛福部對生育的補助，這都是需要的。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:12.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:16.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
請告訴我，在這一塊，攬才專法，你後續有沒有可以幫忙的？ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:16.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:20.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
第一，定期的評估機制，就是人才的需求缺口，這個你答應一個月內要給我。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:21.933000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:33.024000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
另外，人才長留久用的配套措施，有沒有包括友善職場，讓這些攬來的人才在職場上，對他們的生育很友善，可不可以試擬一個方法？可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.855 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:33.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:33.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
可以喔！可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:33.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:34.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:34.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:41.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
我們希望看到，費仔帶著他的新婚老婆，在臺灣不只辦了就業金卡，還在臺灣生小孩，好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:41.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:42.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
你答應了嗎…… |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:42.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:45.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
沒有，我會努力讓這樣的…… |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:46.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:47.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
事情發生。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:47.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:47.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
好事會發生。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:47.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:47.866000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:48.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:50.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
謝謝鍾佳濱委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:50.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:54.094571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
謝謝葉主委，葉主委先請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:54.394571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:56.394571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
應該要用鑽石卡。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
鍾委員佳濱 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:56.694571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-03-16T09:58:58.694571+08:00 |
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鑽石卡，好，不錯喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-03-16T09:58:58.994571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-03-16T09:59:02.137429+08:00 |
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下一位質詢請楊瓊瓔委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0 |