| IVOD_ID |
167446 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167446 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第2次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第2次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-06T15:19:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-06T15:50:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:30:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:19:46 - 15:50:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第2次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、3月6日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、3月10日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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好 謝謝主席那我請院長再請卓院長備選什麼啦 沒緊張啦請石部長我們請衛福部長備選 |
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蘇委員好院長好 院長辛苦了不會輕輕鬆鬆回答就好了啦很認真的回答我是當海軍陸戰隊的機翼民國七十一年 走到七十三年 |
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海軍陸戰隊當時是很苦的每天早上都找火車 穿DECO不管下雨不下雨都跑 衣冠也在跑那當時民國72年的時候 台灣第一批的脫勢會戰進來那就在海軍陸戰隊那邊就在林園 駱駝山那邊打那當時的參謀長長是郝博春 |
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那我是衣冠 要去Stand by我們都很興奮看到那個線性的托市會單那現在的托市會單有沒有改良我不知道啦那我要跟院長報告就是說我們的國防是日新夜異啦那你們這一次 今天復尾了嘛韓院長來復尾啊有你們的一兆多的 有四千億的有三千八加恩的昨天為了三千八再加恩也在那邊討論了很久所以沒有玩樂 |
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不是要馬而跑會跑然後要回頭吃草然後再跑不可能這種事情啦 還沒玩樂啦加N就是這個意思嗎沒有啦 加N不是這個意思啦我3800步再回頭再吃個草再跑300步昨天到現在又多了300步所有的委員最擔心的就是國安部發架時美國國安部提出來的 OK |
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沒有問題 它是111億 我們就認了但是另外一個軍火商的 我們有點擔心另外一個自主原化的 還是有點擔心這樣說就說這兩塊而已嘛自主原化最多的產業 |
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自主研發對我們這個軍工產業國內的自主產業是最有助益的這塊如果把它弄掉我們就沒有可能將國內的產業來升級非常可惜一定要支持的當作產業發展我們的經濟當然是 那個是好事讓我們也融入國際的體系讓我們整個都upgrade那我覺得這是好事你可以好好請教顧部長我們就是這樣的想法我們在一個島嶼內防衛作戰 |
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我們在戰時的時候我們如果沒有國防自主的生產的能量我們要從外援進來並不是一件容易的事情國防自主這一個塊是寫在我們的國防法裡面是我們要強化的那怎麼會現在變成國防自主這件事情變成一個被汙名化的東西呢沒有沒有沒有我們在恆春在屏南 |
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從科醫院、酒棚那邊我也去了好幾次我還甚至去那邊做醫療演講叫他們如何構形配 |
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我告訴你 我們自己的像海馬四圍蛋如果是都是外購 外購 外購 打一顆就少一顆嘛那如果像天宮你有自己研發 我覺得很棒我自己做 我說我們要研發零零兩千啊所以我們要除了海馬零零零兩千啊那個就可以了 好好的討論啊所以三個版本都來了 一起討論一定有你們要歡樂啦 |
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我是希望這三塊 擊殺鏈 台灣之盾 跟自主的國防工業都能夠全部讓我們 委員 報告委今天晚上台灣隊跟日本比賽沒有本土的球員 我們不可能組成國家隊 |
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但是我們也可以請我們在大聯盟的優秀的好手回來日本的好手也可以回來但是沒有本土的球員國家隊都成不起來205P工廠已經有一些完工了子彈的製造已經可以提高好幾倍 |
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你還在外購一顆買18塊然後自己產的8塊錢所以正是因為我們要強化我們的產線彈藥的產線我們要提高我們的戰備存量這也是在我們這一次的特別預算裡面非常強調的一個部分也希望委員能夠支持 |
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如果是這樣我一定支持謝謝委員我雖然當醫生但是我非常非常的關心你問市部長我看他有沒有很關心嗎我問我做醫生不是這樣那這請委員一定要支持因為整個概念想法做法就是這樣好那謝謝謝謝部長那院長上次的質詢你有答應我說那個急重症醫師的加班會值班會的問題你說 |
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去年底會有一個結果我們痴痴的等呆呆的等現在還有一些身份上的分辨的過程包括軍醫還有公立醫院還有私人醫院這些醫生的身份我們還要再做一些最後的一些分析跟定案 |
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已經跟衛福部提出過一些比較詳細內容的報告因為我本身在做重症我們部長他本身也是急診科是那這個醫生一直在照啦不是說我顧我自己,不對嗎這個醫生,隔壁說零五三個醫生,最近六個GS的醫生跑掉四個,跑掉四個那這樣的話是會出問題的所以院長 |
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你已經說過年底 現在又再再再變得更快可以嗎 阿你都沒回答來 請部長向你說明對 跟委員說明其實在這一段期間 院長非常關心那也指派了這個陳政委協調了好幾次因為這個跨好幾個部會那從這個所得稅法開始那麼有一些一定這個標準下的 |
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加班費可以適用免稅規定做出發點來檢討合宜的加班上限時數多少時薪怎麼計算免稅額怎麼計算到最後前面這邊都有共識的現在最後一個就是身分別的差異 |
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希望大家都能夠拉平不要讓公立醫院的公職醫師跟民聘、約用醫師不同或者是跟私人醫院的醫師不同又會造成人力之間的相對剝奪感所以差最後一個就是最後讓他拉平院長 我要報告公務體系的加班人太少了 |
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根本就了備一格嘛常常要叫人家補休假醫生要怎麼補休假所以講這個是沒有意義 要幾百塊所以沒有誘因所以一定要 |
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也體諒到公立醫院醫師過去長時間在這樣的體制底下還是願意來從事這種行醫救人所以我們正從制度上希望把它能夠把它拉得比較平均化一點就是公立醫院的醫師、軍醫還有私人醫院這個平均化要把它拉到已經到最後了他涉及到一些法規上要修訂一下 |
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這一次的春節那我們衛部跟健保署非常努力我這裡要肯定花了一些錢然後做急重症的分流然後大部分的加班費都給醫婦人員好像80%我是覺得這非常好那這次春節的急重症分流的不錯那這裡我有一個case |
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我也有跟部長報告這個就是在屏東、屏南跟院長報告這是一個很好的例子用這個例子就可以講很多 |
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這個病人在別的醫院停掉CPR再急診,CPR多久呢?70分鐘,70分鐘喔,那應該是沒了啦一般我們都40分鐘就放棄了,年輕,少年50幾歲,所以就送過來我們這邊 |
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來到這間學校,就在這間學校給他裝葉克膜在急診室就裝了裝完就整個拉到導管室去做診療管手術手術完之後到ICU葉克膜放了八天八天 |
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八天後拔掉夜空我要寫信給部長跟那個說夜空也拔掉啊大家高興啊這付出多大的人力物力啊再來估計是拔掉再來這個你看到這張照片都打霧啊我在那邊被愛心啊臥開啊 氣開啊還給我講話 |
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所以這就是要集中整個團隊,這個團隊要差不多四十五個人,從急診到導管室到開心手術到艾修,四五十個人,後來又叫五個緊急診施導管,從台北回去了,從日台回去了,心理工廠也要叫,又開一個主動玻璃破裂開心手術,台北人都叫叫起來, |
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像這種的 這種團隊你把人家賣掉 沒理由這叫做做的 叫做算的 他要怎麼做我天天想的都是這種問題而已我不是在說為什麼 就是為 |
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會我照顧 院長像這種你就要好好的一個分流之後這些重症團隊要好好的呵護我要跟你講的講到不管是公立醫院 不管是社團法院 財統院所以很敬佩集中這個團隊包括書員在內讓大家一棒一棒接一棒把一個生命給他留存下來 搶救一個生命那是多大的一個功德對不對所以已經做到這個事情了我們也希望說那所有過程當中的醫師 |
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已經參與集中症還有其他的一樣在從事這些技師救人醫師能夠讓他在制度上更公平那再來 |
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我們零到六歲的小孩子我們黨團討論很多但是我要跟院長報告這個是兒科醫學會的訴求你說零到六歲的小孩但是台灣小的小孩不是不會生也不是不會生是不敢生兒科醫學會就要求說零到六歲把他們的健保費吸收不然你多少錢啊你不要反對啦 你是在反對什麼 沒錯 |
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其實我每天想的跟委員在想的都差不多啦都在想說這些集中症的人力怎麼留住包含這個兒科也是一樣不過呢以現在我們對於這個兒童的保費我們分兩種一種是低收入戶中低收入戶在福利對象其實我們在保費上有的已經都全免了有些呢是還 |
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有補助給他啦第二個呢0到3歲的孩子部分負擔的部分醫療費用我們也用公務預算都cover了所以剩下的呢差別是差在哪裡呢因為我們健保室大家都是量能付費互助互利啦接下來剩下的都是其實委員報告0到6歲他在跟你牽絲你就講一句好不好 |
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這樣就好啊 對不對他講一千個理由 都不是理由啊這不是牽制的問題啦這是說要把這個主管發揮到最大而且喔我們老大人 孩子人我們要做全面的規劃而不是這裡切一塊 哪裡切一塊到最後只集中在某一部分的人在負擔那整個制度上的負擔會集中在 |
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就是中壯年這個階段,那這個會發生一個制度上未來我希望那個下個月婦幼節能夠有好消息啦,好不好?謝謝婦幼節有婦幼節的好消息對,對啦好啦,謝謝啦,我請經濟部長請那個經濟部長,請經濟部長謝謝委員那個婦幼節啦,我婦幼節等你的好消息啦 |
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委員好 來這個剛剛有很多委員都講了我們台灣一天要一條船的那個義太天然氣的船嘛你有講嘛差不多一天要一條那現在我們的永安接收站跟台中港接收站都OK吧那現在你有第三跟三接跟四接現在是怎麼樣 |
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三接現在已經有開始營運但是可能要有第二期四接現在正在環評環評已經過了但是現在正在施工三接已經施工了嗎三接已經部分完成了我們希望有第二期你的來源是三分之一從荷莫茲來另外是印尼還是美國各三分之一 |
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美國、澳洲所以打一眼調配沒問題 |
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目前就是說三月份大概都已經可以調到貨了今天我們中區的立委都問我說你要問院長看看那台中港那六支煙囪是不是要重新啟用了我說那我不知道啊還沒有啦不會啦要再開始拉後煙啦因為我們現在重心就擺在還是在這個天然氣怎麼樣 |
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因為剛剛委員講我們大概三分之一或是百分之三十是從這個中東來嘛汽的部分所以百分之七十事實上還是從其他的地方這個是OK的那所以說我們就盡量把那個百分之三十利用不管是提前調貨也好或者是在市場現貨市場買希望把那個百分之三十把它補起來這個才是我們現在最重要的工作 |
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那這一次的這個打仗跟能源的危機雖然是還沒有很嚴重的事情發生但是如果再拖下去就差不多問題就要出來了那我們如果再燒煤炭再燒燒拖堂就開始空氣汙染我們這次的疫情就沒辦法了大家都煩惱到要死要希望所以新的核能 |
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院長你點眼說新核能你也能接受我要請教你什麼叫做新的核能 |
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現在其他國家先進的一些技術都在討論當中包括核融核SMR等等都在討論當中那這個要商轉還有一段時間那我是說我們現在要全面去接觸這些討論讓我們也有機會在未來當他到達一個核安沒有疑慮核廢可以處理的情況底下大家取得高度的共識對於核能來不會像過去的核能對環境的 |
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破壞威脅那麼大我們就可以來討論我們要不要接受這樣子我們要全面接觸這個討論我今天有看到那個BBC有寫美國的Terra Power他宣布他要幫Microsoft做實作 |
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核電廠希望在2035年之前全部完工那裡面就有像院長講的有SMR有核融核有核分裂所以這個都是新的我們一定要追上去我真的很高興 |
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傳統核能時代的非核家園我們在去年5月17號已經達成了我們已經沒有了那現在我們是面對一個新時代的來臨民生產業都需要我們更開放的能源政策我們往這個方向全力以來直接接觸 |
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河山長在前幾個世代就框了五百多公尺那現在我看兩個基礎佔了差不多一百公尺而已如果你要發展新的核能剛剛講的那一些這個地方夠 核地方夠穩定所以一定這是一個最好的地方 最好的坑路 |
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核三長經過核安 核國安法的修法之後他必須經過有法定的程序提出自主案件檢查跟再運轉的計畫那這個目前經濟部 督促台電都在進行當中而且最後要有核安會來審核同意之後我們才能 |
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考慮要不要怎麼處理那他自主安全檢查跟再運轉計畫過程能不能完全達到最好的安全標準目前還必須有多層的努力當然當然當然就要像剛剛部長也有講核二是比較慢核三比較快那另外一個就是核工的人才我看像核三廠的 |
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剛剛卸任的廠長 前一任廠長 都很優秀的都台電派出去的 都去MIT打破書這些人你一定要好好地珍惜 好好地留不然的話這對台灣是重大損失有 報告委員在河山當初除役的之前我們就跟經濟部跟台電講過盡量把裡面的同仁都能夠留下來留下來也為了要處理河後之間的很多問題對 這個很重要 |
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人才就是國家的人才難力什麼執政那個都不重要啦整個國家要怎麼發展要對子孫負責啦所以人才就是大家要留養那再來我要跟你講的就是前兩天又在屏東又那個環境部又做那個環境影響評估那個風電風電我如果看到這個風電 |
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一百歲啊宜蘭 花蓮 台東 反風車大聯盟那些管政府都不愛做啊屏東這裡我們不施行一座又一座一定有 你等一下也說如果不適合就不要一支好 一支風電一億三千萬 一億四千萬現在反省又多了一年發電五百萬多 六百萬多大家都反對低頻噪音 跟外星人聽不下去 |
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報告委員在多元發展綠能還是國家現在二次能源轉型的目標多元發展綠能當中風電還是佔一個相當的比例但我們說過我們曾經說過這個環境敏感的地帶以及地方政府如果有不同的意見那絕對不以強推任何的風電廠 |
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那個風電、太陽能都是要在土地廣縮、鳥無人煙的地方,我們都去看過嘛,去美國阿里桑那、去加州、去內蒙古都看過,幾十公里沒有半個人,我們這裡不是都住在一區,人家都坐一個, |
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主要花電量太少啦那個根本是CP值差太多包委員剛剛院長已經有講了就是說只要是地方政府沒有同意或是他本身地質敏感的地區我們大概就不會同意啦那這個案子您剛才提到這個案子基本上也還沒有跟我們提出來蘇貞昌院長說了說種樹百里花費八十億 |
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屏東要 重樹百里是創造美麗的天際線結果現在你搞風車在那邊破壞天際線 破壞風景沒有這樣有啦所以一定要注意 好不好我們會遵照剛剛的原則 |
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對 報告委員 那個現在他們前幾天那個有來做我們環評第二次的初審那委員的意見非常的多也都幫委員考慮了大概有十個大意見您說的低頻噪音、眩影或是說鳥類生態或是當地的文化原住民等等都考慮在裡面那當然他們要申請是他們的權利啦那我們會嚴格的把關 |
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那也跟委員報告因為我剛好上禮拜到歐盟也看到荷蘭荷蘭也是跟我們一樣地不大但是我有特別注意到荷蘭的陸特丹外海的風機沒聲啦沒聲所以這個部分我們未來也會再多餘評估一下看是不是有一些更好的技術因為我們現在的風機都是比較舊的2010年的時候大量蓋的那時候那個那時候帶的風機比較吵一點點是不是有更好的風機或更好的方式我們會來研究會建議開發單位能夠再來處理 |
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經濟部長在這裡有在講齁最後一個你的部分就是那個儲水槽擋槓的儲水槽儲水槽儲水槽那天明天明一定有可能啦齁那我跟你講齁 |
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這個我在第八屆立委的時候我已經有提了提這個大鵬灣那邊要一個儲水槽那很感謝院長還有部長你們在小琉球做了兩個一個是五千噸一個五千噸一萬噸那大鵬灣這邊 |
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應該要做一個那自來水公司也很認真最近有討論就是在東港附近要做一個五萬棟的儲水沒有齁因為牡丹水庫大概一百公里那個一百公里常常就通通你看那個水管橋這個就是水管橋以前的水管是掛在 |
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掛在橋樑的旁邊,風太大來,橋回去,那水管就崩潰了,以前風港就是這樣。那後來水管橋就自己獨立了,那這個水管橋很棒,很棒。這就出事了,分開。那最近重新粉刷,右邊這個改成灰色的。 |
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這個跟韌性有關,我非常的欽佩,因為這個很難看,跟水明跟大自然都混在一起,你用這個紅色的太突兀了,那個要炸你的話很好炸,所以這個改成這樣,這個跟國防有相關,我給你欽佩,這個土水槽要做,好不好? |
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好一定要做啦對 這個民生跟產業相關的我們都會很優先的來考量兩位部長請回我請交通部長 比較快沒時間了麻煩請交通部長備選我準備很多東西要問你來 柏定是我在高鐵 跟你坐在同一間車喔院長 這個柏定讚 |
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柏螺西雙都去看太太跟孩子柏螺西雙也經常跟我去各地去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程柏螺西雙也經常跟我去看工程 |
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那這個測出照相一年罰款罰了全台灣三百多億你以為這麼幼稚嗎然後呢更好笑的是機車跟汽車的造勢力十大原因裡面都沒有超速超速都擺不定所以我看你們是搞錯方向了吧報告委員這個部分我可以跟您做說明 |
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這個部分為什麼這個牌是這樣排為什麼因為事故發生的時候第一時間我們的警方單位去做筆錄的時候除非你有申訴要做這個更詳細的評估譬如說車禍的噪音的這個詳細的評估才會去量速度不然一般來講你出車禍的時候沒有任何一個駕駛會主動跟警察講說我超速了一定不會說 |
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但是當我們要做這個真正的評估的時候我們測出來的數字跟委員報告他講的有語頻測數照相機從東到北去從東到坤町 十北去來回我們都要幾次 我不要算了好不好然後呢 照視率 |
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如果一個路口出錯,就把他降速,再降速。所以,這麼大條的路,四十三、六十三公里,我們才七十八、九十,他不是啦,剛好碰一下就變四十,就隨便去踩,七、三次。大家是走到街外,我們台北這些朋友,或是這些同仁,去到屏東,去到那裡回來,絕對都有伴手禮。 |
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辦手禮都兩點發動 自己三點發動你很久沒開車 你很久沒開車 我很久開車我很久開車 而且我開車去坤町一年最沒有超過五遍我自己開車喔 帶家人去 超過五遍我沒有被拍過測速照相 跟委員報告又是照相機 又是區間測速 要搞什麼鬼啊我們的造勢力 德國是6.8 他的高速公路是福利位 |
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沒有縣市我在德國被載過我知道在法蘭克湖那邊他開車我們那個車子歐寶的已經開到兩百四了旁邊要一輛一輛把我們炒過去我說哇那要載多久他說要想到載日落地那邊就這樣造勢率6.8美國12.9台灣12.3所以 |
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跟超市無關的你就花錢然後存錢然後又去買測速照相機然後越裝越...報告委員你在說的屏南的那條道路我非常熟悉旁邊很多地方都有聚落住了很多人你試想一下如果那一段我們給它速限提到120你認為那邊的居民會安全嗎沒有啦我的意思就是說你是那個陷阱你可以七八十然後掉一下子變五十變四十這個可以檢討 |
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1674.165 |
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就是他降速的限制一定要比較人性嘛要看到都來不及,那你取締他,他會覺得心理不服氣啊我告訴你,你這樣踩下去,再踩三年,一月到晚都測速降線機啊這很多是地方政府的啦百分之九十幾以上都地方政府啦而且發大發下去百分之九十以上的經費都在地方政府啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1683.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1690.578 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
不是說中央政府很希望法不會我們是上位的法規就是說對於速限如果你真的超出了該罰錢這個是我們上位法規但實際的執行不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1693.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1720.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
就是還是要督促地方政府來檢討剛剛說的那個人性化的降速規定再來就是每一個路段一段時間要去檢討馬上檢討啦好不好路段要去檢討平常還在造勢那就要採用其他的方法那如果安全我們這個方法要最後最後最後三個屏東的三個建設三個建設齁朱熙就不想我講兩分鐘不然我就說這麼久的屏北的屏北二塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1722.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1727.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
那個高鐵再來屏南快速道路這三條這三條我做一下講你都要等到民國西延2037、39、40啦我要說我找不到呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1736.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1757.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
這不會中就死了會啦 你一定會中跟委員報告 你說的那個屏南二塊在院長的指示之下我們今年10月之前就會來開工院長有到縣地去看過而且也有指示今年一定要開工國道10號延伸到新威大橋我台北改的立委我請署 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1758.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1785.787 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
拍板你敢不敢鼓勵他開工對 也是院長去開工的他就你開工的嘛開工就放太久了我要跟你說是十年 十年所以要感謝歷屆的院長在行政院這樣努力的規劃我們到現在才有辦法做所以高評二範我們去年九月行政院核定今年十月前我要求一定開工要順利的招標出去開工你要像那個舞陽高架這舞陽高架 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1790.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1814.984 |
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38.8公里,他就多段開工,這樣提早三年,提早三年也完工所以一定可以多段先開工,讓他可以提早完工如果這樣一條路做要一直這麼久,會被人臭死我知道你好各家的效力很好請市交通部來演繹更快的一個分段開工的方式,那工程來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1816.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1835.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
你看五陽高鐵 五陽快速路 那高架38不到39公里 真的是提早3天這個也規劃了很多年多年 用地的取得也是有大的問題但現在已經一一克服了這個我會盯緊 好不好我們一起盯 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1848.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1848.915 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
不是 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:19:59.201000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:02.123000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，我請院長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:02.123000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:03.224000+08:00 |
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麻煩再請卓院長備詢。 |
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0.667 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:04.746000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-03-06T15:20:04.746000+08:00 |
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最後的了，不用緊張啦！ |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:09.430000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:10.591000+08:00 |
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請石部長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:10.751000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:10.911000+08:00 |
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麻煩請衛福部部長備詢。 |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:15.171000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-03-06T15:20:15.311000+08:00 |
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蘇委員好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:16.292000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:19.694000+08:00 |
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院長好，院長辛苦了。不會。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:19.694000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:20:20.294000+08:00 |
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輕輕鬆鬆回答就好了。 |
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1 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:21.255000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-06T15:20:21.775000+08:00 |
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很認真的回答。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:24.057000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-06T15:20:38.904000+08:00 |
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我是當海軍陸戰隊的軍醫，民國71年做到73年，海軍陸戰隊當時是很苦的，每天早上都穿短褲跑5,000，不管下雨不下雨都跑…… |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.851 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:38.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-06T15:20:39.904000+08:00 |
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保家衛國第一線，非常敬佩。 |
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0 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:39.564000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-06T15:20:39.684000+08:00 |
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醫官也在跑。 |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-06T15:20:39.764000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:21:10.449000+08:00 |
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民國72年的時候，臺灣第一批拖式飛彈進來，海軍陸戰隊就在林園駱駝山那邊打，當時的參謀總長是郝柏村，因為我是醫官，所以要去那邊stand by，我們都很興奮看到線性拖式飛彈，現在的拖式飛彈有沒有改良我不知道。 |
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0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:12.230000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-06T15:21:19.372000+08:00 |
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我要跟院長報告的是，我們的國防是日新月異，特別條例草案今天付委了嘛！ |
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0.677 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:20.833000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:21:37.781000+08:00 |
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韓院長讓它付委了，有你們一兆多的、有4,000億的、有3,800加N的，昨天為了3,800再加N也在那邊討論了很久，所以不用煩惱，不是要馬兒會跑，又要回頭吃吃草，然後再跑，不可能有這種事情，不用煩惱啦！ |
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0.718 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:38.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-06T15:21:39.302000+08:00 |
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加N就是這個意思嘛！ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:40.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-06T15:21:40.423000+08:00 |
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沒有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:40.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-06T15:21:41.964000+08:00 |
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加N不是這個意思啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:41.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-06T15:21:43.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
如果是這樣…… |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:43.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-06T15:21:48.287000+08:00 |
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跑3,800步，回頭吃個草，再跑300步，昨天到現在又多了300步。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-06T15:21:48.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:07.361000+08:00 |
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所有的委員最擔心的就是發價書，美國國防部提出來的OK、沒有問題，他是111億，我們都認了，但另外一個是軍火商的，我們有點擔心，而另外一個自主研發的，還是有點擔心，怎麼說都是說這兩塊而已嘛！ |
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0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:07.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:08.262000+08:00 |
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自主研發對國內的產業…… |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:08.262000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:12.485000+08:00 |
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你如果說美國國防部賣我們的，我們都沒有意見…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:12.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:24.253000+08:00 |
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自主研發對國內的軍工產業是最有助益的，如果把這一塊弄掉，我們就沒有可能將國內產業升級，非常可惜，這一定要支持的。 |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:24.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:25.013000+08:00 |
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如果你把國防當作產業來發展我們的經濟…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:25.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:25.213000+08:00 |
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當然是。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:25.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:26.274000+08:00 |
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那個是好事。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:26.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:22:28.716000+08:00 |
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讓我們也融入國際體系，整個都upgrade，那麼我覺得這是好事。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:29.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:30.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
你可以好好請教顧部長，我們就是這樣的想法。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
顧部長立雄 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:30.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-06T15:22:59.683000+08:00 |
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我們在一個島嶼內進行防衛作戰，在戰時的時候，如果沒有國防自主的生產能量，要從外援進來並不是一件容易的事情，國防自主這一塊是寫在我們的國防法之內，是我們要強化的，怎麼現在國防自主這件事情會變成一個被污名化的東西呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-06T15:22:59.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:10.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
沒有、沒有，在恆春、屏南，中科院九鵬那邊我也去了好幾次，我還甚至去那邊做醫療演講，教他們如何照顧身體耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:13.040000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:23.182000+08:00 |
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我跟你說，像海馬士飛彈，如果都是外購，打一顆就少一顆；而天弓是自己研發，我覺得很棒……對！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.757 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:24.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:24.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
自己做…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
顧部長立雄 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:27.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:27.843000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
所以我們也研發雷霆2000啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
顧部長立雄 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:28.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:29.443000+08:00 |
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除了海馬士，我們有雷霆2000啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:29.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:31.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
那個就可以好好地討論啊！ |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:32.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:34.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
所以3個版本都來了，一起討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:34.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:36.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
院長，你不用煩惱啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:36.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:37.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
好好地說。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:37.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:45.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
我是希望這3塊，擊殺鏈、臺灣之盾及自主的國防工業都能夠全部讓委員好好地審議。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:45.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-06T15:23:46.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
如果能…… |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-06T15:23:45.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:01.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
報告委員，今天晚上臺灣隊跟日本比賽，沒有本土的球員，我們不可能組成國家隊，但是我們也可以請我們在大聯盟的優秀好手回來、日本的好手也可以回來，但是沒有本土的球員，國家隊都組不起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:01.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:04.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
205兵工廠有一些已經完工了…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:04.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:05.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
所以一定要發展自主產業啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:04.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:09.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
子彈的製造已經可以提高好幾倍，你還在外購？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:09.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:14.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
一顆買18塊，然後自己產的8塊錢…… |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
顧部長立雄 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:14.363000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:25.689000+08:00 |
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正因為要強化我們的彈藥產線、要提高我們的戰備存量，這也是我們在這一次的特別預算裡面非常強調的一個部分，也希望委員能夠支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:26.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:27.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
如果是這樣，我一定支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:28.598000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:29.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:29.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:37.981000+08:00 |
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我雖然當醫生，但是我也非常關心國防，你問石部長，我看起來他也是很關心，不是儍儍地做醫生，不是這樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.698 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:37.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:41.902000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
那就請委員一定要支持，因為整個概念、想法、做法就是這樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:41.902000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-06T15:24:45.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
好，謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-06T15:24:46.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:03.614000+08:00 |
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院長，上次質詢你有答應我急重症醫師的加班費、值班費問題，你說去年底會有一個結果，我們癡癡的等、呆呆的等，現在怎麼樣了？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:03.815000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:20.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
現在還有一些身分上的分辨過程，包括軍醫、公立醫院，還有私人醫院，這些醫生的身分我們還要再做一些最後的分析跟定案，已經跟衛福部提出一些比較詳細內容的報告、分析了。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:21.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:33.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
因為我本身在做重症，部長本身也是急診科，這些醫生一直跑掉，不是說我在顧我自己，絕對沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:33.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:42.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
譬如林口長庚醫院最近6個GS醫生跑掉4個，這樣是會出問題的。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:43.289000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:51.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
所以院長，你上次說去年底，現在還在……「拚」快一點可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:52.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:52.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
部長，你都沒回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:53.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-06T15:25:54.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
請部長詳細說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-06T15:25:55.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-06T15:26:04.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
跟委員說明，其實這段期間院長非常關心，也指派陳政委協調了好幾次，因為這個部分跨好幾個部會。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-06T15:26:05.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-06T15:26:48.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
從所得稅法開始，有一些一定標準下的加班費可以適用免稅規定做出發點，來檢討合宜的加班上限、時數多少，然後時薪怎麼計算、免稅額怎麼計算，前面這些都有共識了，現在最後一個就是身分別的差異，希望大家都能夠拉平，不要讓公立醫院的公職醫師跟民聘、約用醫師不同，或者是跟私人醫院的醫師不同，又會造成人力之間的相對剝奪感，所以差最後一個，就是讓它拉平。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-06T15:26:48.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:02.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
院長，我跟你報告，公務體系的加班費實在太少了，根本就是聊備一格，常常叫人家補休假，醫生要怎麼補休假？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:05.382000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:11.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
講這個是沒有意義的，而且才幾百塊，沒有誘因，所以一定要…… |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:11.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:27.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
所以我們要感謝，也體諒公立醫院醫師過去長時間在這樣的體制底下還是願意來行醫救人，我們希望在制度上能夠把它拉得平均化一點，就是公立醫院的醫師、軍醫，還有私人醫院要把它拉得平均化一點。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:27.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:28.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
何時可以…… |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:28.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:30.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
已經到最後了。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:30.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:31.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
最後了？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:31.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:32.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
我會盯著啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:31.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:33.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
它涉及有一些法規要修訂。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:35.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:43.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
這一次的春節衛福部跟健保署非常努力，我這裡要給予肯定。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:44.733000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:54.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
花了一些錢做急重症的分流，然後大部分的加班費都給醫護人員，好像80%嘛。是，80%。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.879 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:54.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-06T15:27:55.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
80%以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-06T15:27:54.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-06T15:28:01.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我是覺得這非常好，這次春節的急重症分流得不錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-06T15:28:01.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-06T15:28:14.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我這裡有一個case，就是在屏東屏南，我有跟部長報告，也跟院長報告，這是一個很好的例子，用這個例子就可以講很多了。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.804 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-06T15:28:16.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-06T15:28:26.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
這個病人在別的醫院急診停掉了CPR，CPR多久呢？70分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-06T15:28:27.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-06T15:28:32.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
那應該是沒救了，一般我們都40分鐘就放棄了，但是硬救，因為他年輕，才五十幾歲，所以就送過來我們這邊。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.738 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-06T15:28:36.598000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-06T15:28:59.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
送到急診室，我們幫他裝葉克膜，在急診室就裝了，裝完就拉到導管室去做心導管手術，手術完之後到ICU，葉克膜放了8天，8天後拔掉葉克膜，我還寫LINE給部長說葉克膜拔掉了，大家很高興！ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-06T15:29:01.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-06T15:29:02.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
這付出多大的人力、物力啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-06T15:29:03.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-06T15:29:10.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
再來，把呼吸器拔掉；再來，你看這張照片（已經幫他馬賽克了），我在那邊對他比愛心，他活過來了，醒來了，還跟我說話！ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.457 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-06T15:29:18.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-06T15:29:31.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
所以這就是需要急重症的團隊，這個團隊差不多要四、五十個人，從急診到導管室、到開心手術，再到ICU，要四、五十個人。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.755 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-06T15:29:32.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-06T15:29:45.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我們另外又再救了5個緊急心導管的病人，有從臺北來的，也有從南投來的，還救了心肌梗塞的，又再做一個主動脈剝離破裂開心手術，大部分都救起來了。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.419 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-06T15:29:47.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-06T15:29:53.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
部長，像這種團隊你留不住，讓這些人跑了、散了，以後要怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-06T15:29:54.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-06T15:30:01.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我天天想的都是這種問題而已耶，我不是要為什麼，就是為了要好好照顧。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-06T15:30:01.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-06T15:30:13.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
院長，像這種你就要好好的分流，這些重症團隊要好好的呵護，我要跟你說的重點在這，不管是公立醫院，不管是社團法人、財團法人的醫院。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.804 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-06T15:30:14.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-03-06T15:30:25.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
所以很敬佩急重症的團隊，包括蘇委員在內，大家一棒接一棒，把一個生命留存下來，搶救一個生命是多大的一個功德，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-06T15:30:25.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-06T15:30:26.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
所以已經做到這個事情了。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-06T15:30:27.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-06T15:30:37.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我們也希望所有過程當中已經參與的急重症醫師，還有其他一樣在濟世救人的醫師，能夠讓他們在制度上更公平、更好。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.776 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-06T15:30:37.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-06T15:30:57.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
再來，0到6歲的小孩子，我們黨團討論了很多，但是我要跟院長報告，這是兒科醫學會他們的訴求，他們說：我們臺灣年輕人不是不會生，也不是不生，而是不敢生。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-06T15:30:58.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:05.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
因此兒科醫學會就有這種要求，希望把0到6歲的健保費吸收，這又沒有多少錢。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.613 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-06T15:31:06.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:07.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
你不要反對啦，部長，你是在反對什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-06T15:31:07.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:19.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
沒有，其實我每天想的跟委員想的都差不多，都在想這些急重症的人力怎麼留住，包含兒科也是一樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-06T15:31:19.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:44.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
不過，以現在我們對於兒童的保費，我們分兩種，一種是低收入戶、中低收入戶這些福利對象，其實我們在保費上有的已經都全免了，有些是有補助給他；第二個，0到3歲孩子在「部分負擔」的醫療費用，我們也都用公務預算cover了。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-06T15:31:45.490000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:48.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
所以剩下的差別是在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-06T15:31:48.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:57.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
因為我們健保是大家量能付費、互助互利，接下來剩下的其實都是……我們0到6歲…… |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.839 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-06T15:31:57.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-06T15:31:58.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
沒有啦，院長，他在幫你省錢，你就說一句，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.526 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:02.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:04.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
這樣就好了，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:04.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:06.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
他說的一千個理由都不是理由啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:07.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:08.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
沒有啦，這個仍然有公平性的問題啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:09.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:28.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
這不是省錢的問題，而是要怎麼將資源發揮到最大，而且我們對老人家、小孩要怎麼全面的規劃，而不是這裡切一塊、那裡切一塊，到最後集中由某部分的人負擔，整個制度上的負擔會集中在中壯年這個階段，未來會發生制度上…… |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.761 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:28.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:33.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
我希望下個月婦幼節能夠有好消息，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:34.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:34.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
謝謝啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:34.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:35.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
婦幼節有婦幼節的好消息。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
部長，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
我請經濟部長，石部長可以休息。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
麻煩請經濟部長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:36.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
好，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:38.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:39.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
婦幼節等你的好消息啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:53.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-03-06T15:32:53.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-03-06T15:32:55.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:07.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
剛剛有很多委員都講了，我們臺灣一天要一條液態天然氣的船，你有講差不多一天要一條。 |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:08.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:14.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
現在我們的永安接收站跟臺中港接收站都OK吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:15.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:18.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
目前你有三接跟四接，現在是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:19.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:29.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
三接現在已經有開始營運，但是可能要有第二期；四接環評已經過了，現在正在施工。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:29.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:31.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
三接已經在施工了嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:31.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:33.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
沒有，三接已經部分完成了。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:33.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:34.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
三接已經啟用了。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:33.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:34.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
我們希望有第二期啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:36.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:44.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
你的來源是三分之一從荷姆茲海峽出來，另外印尼還是美國各三分之一嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.839 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:46.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:47.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
對，差不多，美國、澳洲。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-03-06T15:33:48.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-03-06T15:33:49.917000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
所以來源調配沒問題？ |
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0.778 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-03-06T15:33:56.509000+08:00 |
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目前3月份大概都已經可以調到貨了，現在就是4月份…… |
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0.714 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:33:57.490000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:05.658000+08:00 |
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今天我們中區的立委都跟我說，你要問院長，臺中港那5支煙囪是不是又要重新啟用了？ |
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0.943 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-03-06T15:34:06.038000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-03-06T15:34:07.740000+08:00 |
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我說：那個我不知道啊！ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-03-06T15:34:08.340000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-03-06T15:34:09.501000+08:00 |
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還沒有，不會啦！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:09.501000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:11.203000+08:00 |
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院長，又要開始冒黑煙、燒煤炭了嗎？ |
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0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:11.203000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-03-06T15:34:27.937000+08:00 |
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不是，因為我們現在重心還是擺在天然氣怎麼樣……剛剛委員講我們氣的部分大概三分之一或是30%是從中東來，70%還是來自其他的地方，這個是OK的。 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-03-06T15:34:29.018000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-03-06T15:34:42.209000+08:00 |
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所以我們就儘量把那30%……不管是調提前調貨也好或者是在現貨市場買，希望把那30%補起來，這個才是我們現在最重要的工作。 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:44.179000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:54.283000+08:00 |
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這一次打仗跟能源危機，雖然還沒有很嚴重的事情發生，但是如果再拖下去，問題差不多就要出現了。 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:55.784000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:59.625000+08:00 |
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如果再燒煤炭，又要開始空氣污染，我們這些醫生又要忙碌了，大家都很煩惱，希望…… |
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0.667 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-03-06T15:34:59.625000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:35:09.103000+08:00 |
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報告委員，不會啦…… |
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0 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-03-06T15:35:09.103000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:35:14.571000+08:00 |
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院長，上次你說可以接受新核能，我要請教你，什麼叫做新的核能？ |
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0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-03-06T15:35:15.311000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:35:24.635000+08:00 |
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現在其他國家先進的一些技術都在討論當中，包括核融合、SMR等等的都在討論當中，這個要商轉還有一段時間。 |
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0.957 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-03-06T15:35:25.536000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:35:47.849000+08:00 |
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我是說我們現在要全面接住這些討論，讓我們也有機會在未來當它到達一個核安沒有疑慮、核廢可以處理的情況底下，大家取得高度的共識，也就是這些核能不會像過去的核能對環境的破壞威脅那麼大，我們就可以來討論要不要接受這樣子，我們要全面接住這個討論。 |
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0.928 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:35:47.849000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:36:14.534000+08:00 |
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我今天看到BBC有寫美國TerraPower宣布要幫Microsoft建造10座核電廠，希望在2035年之前全部完工，裡面就有像院長講的有SMR、有核融合、有核分裂，這些都是新的，我們一定要追上去。 |
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0.942 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:36:14.534000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:36:17.556000+08:00 |
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我是很高興院長頭腦很清楚也跟得上時代，不再堅持說要非核家園，這個是錯誤的過去，也不是你們造成的啦！所以…… |
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0.085 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-03-06T15:36:17.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-03-06T15:36:23.640000+08:00 |
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傳統核能時代的非核家園，我們在去年5月17號已經達成、已經沒有了，現在我們是面對一個新時代的來臨，民生、產業都需要更開放的能源政策，我們往這個方向全力來實際接觸。 |
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0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:36:45.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:37:05.972000+08:00 |
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本席現在出示的是核三廠的圖片，核三廠在蔣經國的時代就匡了五百多公頃，我看兩個機組占了差不多100公頃而已，如果你要發展新的核能，剛剛講的那一些，這個地方夠穩定，所以院長，這是一個最好的地方，好好考慮。 |
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0.625 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-03-06T15:37:06.993000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:37:34.119000+08:00 |
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核三廠經過核管法的修法之後，它必須經過法定的程序、提出自主安全檢查跟再運轉的計畫，這個目前經濟部督促台電都在進行當中，而且最後要核安會來審核同意之後，我們才能考慮要怎麼處理，它的自主安全檢查跟再運轉計畫過程能不能完全達到最好的安全標準，目前還必須有多層的努力。當然！ |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:37:35.199000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:37:39.900000+08:00 |
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就像剛剛部長也有講，核二比較慢，核三比較快。是的。 |
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0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:37:41.541000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:38:01.327000+08:00 |
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另外是核工的人才，我看像核三廠剛剛卸任的廠長、前一任廠長都很優秀，都是台電派去MIT讀博士，這些人你一定要好好的珍惜、好好的留，不然會有斷層，這對我們臺灣是重大損失。 |
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0.827 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-03-06T15:38:01.507000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:38:15.053000+08:00 |
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有，報告委員，在核三當初除役之前，我們就跟經濟部、台電講過，儘量把裡面的同仁都能夠留任下來，留下來也是為了要處理核後之間的很多問題，也是需要他們。 |
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0.8 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-03-06T15:38:15.053000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:38:24.696000+08:00 |
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對，這個很重要，人才就是國家的人才，你看什麼藍綠、什麼執政，那個都不重要啦，這個國家要怎麼發展，要對子孫負責啦！ |
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0.854 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:38:25.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-03-06T15:38:27.056000+08:00 |
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所以人才就是大家要留用。 |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-03-06T15:38:28.817000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:38:37.900000+08:00 |
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再來，我要跟你講的是前兩天環境部又在屏東做有關風電的環境影響評估。 |
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0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-03-06T15:38:38.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-03-06T15:38:45.636000+08:00 |
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我如果看到這些風電就一肚子火！ |
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| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-03-06T15:38:47.637000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:38:56.162000+08:00 |
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宜蘭、花蓮、臺東因為「反瘋車」大聯盟，那些縣政府都不做了，屏東卻不死心，一趟又一趟！ |
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0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-03-06T15:38:58.103000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:39:13.571000+08:00 |
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院長，你上次也說如果不適合就不要了，一支風電1億3,000萬、1億4,000萬，現在也許更貴了，一年發電500萬噸、600萬噸，大家都反對，低頻噪音，連我是醫生都聽不下去了，結果還在原地打轉，部長，到底是怎麼回事？ |
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0.526 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-03-06T15:39:17.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2026-03-06T15:39:38.611000+08:00 |
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報告委員，多元發展綠能還是國家現在二次能源轉型的目標，在多元發展綠能當中，風電還是占相當的比例，但我們曾經說過，環境敏感的地帶，以及地方政府如果有不同的意見，就絕對不宜強推任何的風電場。 |
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0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-03-06T15:39:41.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:39:58.198000+08:00 |
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風電、太陽能都是要在土地廣闊、杳無人煙的地方，我們去美國亞利桑那州、加州和內蒙古都看過，人家是幾十公里沒有半個人，我們這裡不是，都和住宅區混在一起，院長，這個還是要…… |
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0.712 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-03-06T15:39:58.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:04.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
請部長說明一下目前的標準。 |
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0.083 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:04.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:06.684000+08:00 |
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而且主要是發電量太少啦！ |
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0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:07.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:10.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
根本CP值差太多！ |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:11.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:19.675000+08:00 |
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報告委員，剛才院長已經有講了，只要地方政府沒有同意，或者它本身是地質敏感地區，我們當然就不會同意。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:21.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:24.318000+08:00 |
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您剛才提到的這個案子，基本上也還沒有跟我們提出來…… |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:24.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:40:34.175000+08:00 |
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蘇貞昌院長花了快80億在屏東那邊「種樹百里」，他說種樹百里是創造美麗的天際線。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:34.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:39.117000+08:00 |
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結果現在你在那邊搞風車破壞天際線、破壞風景，不要這樣搞啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:41.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:44.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
院長，這要注意，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[155].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:44.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:44.920000+08:00 |
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我們會遵照剛剛的原則來認定。 |
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0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:44.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:47.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].text |
彭部長，你要說兩句嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
彭部長啓明 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:47.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2026-03-06T15:40:56.268000+08:00 |
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報告委員，前幾天有做環評第2次的初審，委員的意見非常多，也都幫委員考慮了。 |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
彭部長啓明 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2026-03-06T15:40:56.508000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2026-03-06T15:41:04.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].text |
大概有10個大意見，您說的低頻噪音、昡影、鳥類生態，或是當地的文化、原住民等等，都考慮在裡面。 |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
彭部長啓明 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2026-03-06T15:41:05.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2026-03-06T15:41:09.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
當然，他們要申請是他們的權利啦，我們會嚴格把關。 |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
彭部長啓明 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2026-03-06T15:41:10.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2026-03-06T15:41:21.785000+08:00 |
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也跟委員報告，因為我剛好上禮拜到歐盟，也看到荷蘭的狀況，荷蘭也跟我們一樣地不大，但是我有特別注意到荷蘭鹿特丹外海的風機沒有聲音，沒聲音！ |
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0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
彭部長啓明 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2026-03-06T15:41:21.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2026-03-06T15:41:37.673000+08:00 |
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所以這個部分，我們未來也會再多予評估一下，看是不是有一些更好的技術，因為我們現在的風機都是比較舊的，2010年那時候大量蓋的風機比較吵一點點，是不是有更好的風機，或更好的方式，我們會來研究，會建議開發單位再來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2026-03-06T15:41:41.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2026-03-06T15:41:49.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
經濟部部長在這裡，我最後再講一個你的部分，就是儲水槽，東港的儲水槽…… |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2026-03-06T15:41:50.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2026-03-06T15:41:50.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
儲水槽？ |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2026-03-06T15:41:51.478000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2026-03-06T15:42:16.025000+08:00 |
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對，儲水槽的部分院長有考量了，我跟你講，我在第8屆立委任內已經有提大鵬灣那邊需要一個儲水槽，很感謝院長還有部長，你們在小琉球做了2個，一個5,000噸、一個5,000噸，共1萬噸，大鵬灣這邊應該要做一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[166].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[166].start |
2026-03-06T15:42:16.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[166].end |
2026-03-06T15:42:29.709000+08:00 |
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自來水公司也很認真，最近有在討論，就是在東港附近做一個5萬噸的儲水設備，不然因為牡丹水庫到那邊要100公里，這100公里常常就「土土」。 |
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0.759 |
| transcript.gazette[167].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[167].start |
2026-03-06T15:42:30.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[167].end |
2026-03-06T15:42:52.543000+08:00 |
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你看投影片裡的水管橋，以前水管是掛在橋梁旁邊，如果颱風來、橋斷了，那個水管就跟著壞掉了，以前楓港就是這樣，所以後來水管橋就自己獨立，這個水管橋很棒、很棒！ |
| transcript.gazette[167].quality |
0.721 |
| transcript.gazette[168].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[168].start |
2026-03-06T15:42:54.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[168].end |
2026-03-06T15:42:56.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].text |
出事情後就分開。 |
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0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[169].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[169].start |
2026-03-06T15:42:56.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[169].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:11.779000+08:00 |
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最近重新粉刷改成灰色的，這跟韌性有關，我非常欽佩，因為這樣遠遠看，跟水面、跟大自然都混在一起，你用紅色的……顯眼。 |
| transcript.gazette[169].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[170].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[170].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:12.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[170].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:20.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].text |
太突兀了，人家要炸你的話很好炸，所以改成這樣跟國防有相關，我欽佩你！ |
| transcript.gazette[170].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[171].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[171].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:22.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[171].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:27.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].text |
院長，儲水槽要做，好不好？是，好。 |
| transcript.gazette[171].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[172].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[172].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:28.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[172].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:28.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].text |
一定要做啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[172].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[173].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[173].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:29.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[173].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:32.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].text |
和民生跟產業相關的，我們都會很優先來考量，請經濟部規劃。 |
| transcript.gazette[173].quality |
0.72 |
| transcript.gazette[174].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[174].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:33.164000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[174].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:34.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].text |
兩位部長請回，我請交通部長，快一點，沒時間了。 |
| transcript.gazette[174].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[175].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[175].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:34.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[175].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:35.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].text |
麻煩請交通部長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[175].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[176].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[176].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:35.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[176].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:37.165000+08:00 |
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我準備很多東西要問你。 |
| transcript.gazette[176].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[177].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[177].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:37.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[177].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:38.545000+08:00 |
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部長，我在高鐵跟你同車。 |
| transcript.gazette[177].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[178].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[178].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:38.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[178].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:38.905000+08:00 |
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院長，這個部長讚！ |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[179].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[179].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:57.917000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[179].end |
2026-03-06T15:43:58.618000+08:00 |
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星期六都回去看太太跟小孩。 |
| transcript.gazette[179].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[180].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[180].start |
2026-03-06T15:43:59.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[180].end |
2026-03-06T15:44:00.338000+08:00 |
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他星期六也常常跟我去各地看工程。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[181].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[181].start |
2026-03-06T15:44:00.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[181].end |
2026-03-06T15:44:09.127000+08:00 |
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對、對、對，我和他坐頭班車遇到好幾次，不錯！ |
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0.059 |
| transcript.gazette[182].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[182].start |
2026-03-06T15:44:09.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[182].end |
2026-03-06T15:44:17.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].text |
要稱讚他！謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[182].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[183].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[183].start |
2026-03-06T15:44:17.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[183].end |
2026-03-06T15:44:26.705000+08:00 |
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我要講我們屏東的測速照相機是全臺灣第3多的，第3名，屏東才住多少人。 |
| transcript.gazette[183].quality |
0.172 |
| transcript.gazette[184].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[184].start |
2026-03-06T15:44:26.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[184].end |
2026-03-06T15:44:31.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].text |
全臺灣測速照相1年罰款罰了三百多億，你們真的很「夭壽」！ |
| transcript.gazette[184].quality |
0.435 |
| transcript.gazette[185].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[185].start |
2026-03-06T15:44:35.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[185].end |
2026-03-06T15:44:48.933000+08:00 |
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更好笑的是，機車跟汽車的肇事10大原因裡面都沒有超速，超速都排不上，所以我看你們是搞錯方向了吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[185].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[186].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[186].start |
2026-03-06T15:44:49.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[186].end |
2026-03-06T15:45:16.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].text |
報告委員，我可以跟您說明這個部分為什麼是這樣排，因為事故發生的時候，第一時間我們警方單位去做筆錄的時候，除非你有申訴要做更詳細的評估，譬如車禍肇因的詳細評估，才會去量速度，不然一般來講，出車禍的時候，沒有任何一個駕駛會主動跟警察講說：喔，我超速了！ |
| transcript.gazette[186].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[187].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[187].start |
2026-03-06T15:45:17.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[187].end |
2026-03-06T15:45:17.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].text |
一定不會說啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[187].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[188].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[188].start |
2026-03-06T15:45:19.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[188].end |
2026-03-06T15:45:24.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].text |
但是當我們要做真正評估的時候，我們測出來的數字，跟委員報告，超過4成是超速喔…… |
| transcript.gazette[188].quality |
0.794 |
| transcript.gazette[189].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[189].start |
2026-03-06T15:45:24.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[189].end |
2026-03-06T15:45:25.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].text |
院長，他講話有語病啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[189].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[190].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[190].start |
2026-03-06T15:45:25.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[190].end |
2026-03-06T15:45:27.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].text |
測速照相機從東港到枋寮8支、從東港到墾丁18支，來回不知道幾支，我不知道要怎麼算。 |
| transcript.gazette[190].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[191].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[191].start |
2026-03-06T15:45:29.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[191].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:11.708000+08:00 |
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肇事之後，如果一個路口出車禍就降速、再降速，你看這麼大條的路，四線道、六線道差不多可以開70、80、90，但它不是，到那邊一下就變40，測速照相機放在那邊，大家都罵得要死，我們臺北的朋友或是立法院同仁去屏東回來，絕對都有伴手禮：至少都2張罰單至3張罰單。 |
| transcript.gazette[191].quality |
0.52 |
| transcript.gazette[192].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[192].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:11.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[192].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:15.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].text |
報告委員，我很常去墾丁…… |
| transcript.gazette[192].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[193].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[193].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:15.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[193].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:16.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].text |
你很久沒開車。 |
| transcript.gazette[193].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[194].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[194].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:16.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[194].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:27.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].text |
我很常開車，而且我自己開車載家人去墾丁一年至少超過5次，我沒有被拍過測速照相，跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[194].quality |
0.775 |
| transcript.gazette[195].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[195].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:27.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[195].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:31.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].text |
又是照相機、又是區間測速，不知道在搞什麼鬼啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[195].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[196].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[196].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:31.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[196].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:32.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].text |
遵守速限很重要…… |
| transcript.gazette[196].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[197].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[197].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:32.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[197].end |
2026-03-06T15:46:32.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].text |
我們的肇事率…… |
| transcript.gazette[197].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[198].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[198].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:32.463000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:33.463000+08:00 |
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大家儘量不要違規啦！ |
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0 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:32.944000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:49.757000+08:00 |
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德國的肇事率是6.8，它的高速公路是freeway、沒有限速，我在德國被載過，所以我知道，在法蘭克福那邊，那輛車子是歐寶的，已經開到240了，旁邊一輛一輛車超過我們，我說：哇！ |
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0.694 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:49.757000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:50.858000+08:00 |
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那不知道開多少？ |
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0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[201].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:50.858000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:51.178000+08:00 |
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他說：至少開到260、280。 |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[202].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:51.298000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:46:51.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[202].text |
就這樣！ |
| transcript.gazette[202].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[203].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[203].start |
2026-03-06T15:46:51.418000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:01.264000+08:00 |
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他們肇事率6.8、美國12.9、臺灣12.3，所以跟超速沒關係…… |
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0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[204].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:01.264000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:02.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[204].text |
報告委員…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[205].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[205].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:01.404000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:06.668000+08:00 |
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你就把罰款的錢存下來，又去買測速照相機，越裝越多。 |
| transcript.gazette[205].quality |
0.682 |
| transcript.gazette[206].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:06.868000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[206].end |
2026-03-06T15:47:19.417000+08:00 |
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報告委員，你說的屏南那條道路，我非常熟悉，旁邊很多地方都有聚落、住了很多人，你試想一下，如果那一段我們把速限提高到120，你認為那邊的居民會安全嗎？ |
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0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[207].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[207].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:19.417000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[207].end |
2026-03-06T15:47:19.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[207].text |
沒有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[207].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[208].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[208].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:19.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:47:24.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[208].text |
我的意思是這是陷阱，70、80然後一下子掉到變50、40…… |
| transcript.gazette[208].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[209].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:26.322000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:30.016000+08:00 |
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這個可以檢討，就是降速的限制一定要比較人性化…… |
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0.952 |
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蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[210].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:30.016000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:31.016000+08:00 |
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我們全臺灣的那個…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[211].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[211].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:30.957000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:34.260000+08:00 |
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不要看到的時候都來不及，那你取締他，他會覺得不服氣，這要人性化，但是…… |
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0.633 |
| transcript.gazette[212].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:34.520000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:36.642000+08:00 |
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我跟你說，你這樣設置下去，再過三年，整個臺灣都是測速照相機。 |
| transcript.gazette[212].quality |
0.538 |
| transcript.gazette[213].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[213].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:36.642000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:37.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].text |
跟委員報告…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[214].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[214].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:36.682000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:37.303000+08:00 |
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這很多是地方政府的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[214].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[215].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[215].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:37.783000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:51.735000+08:00 |
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90%以上都是地方政府設置的，而且罰單罰下去後，90%以上的經費也都在地方政府，不是中央政府很希望罰，不會啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[215].quality |
0.717 |
| transcript.gazette[216].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[216].start |
2026-03-06T15:47:51.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:52.735000+08:00 |
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地方政府花不完啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[216].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[217].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:51.735000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:47:56.578000+08:00 |
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對於速限，我們是上位法規，如果你真的超速了，該罰錢，這是我們的上位法規，但實際的執行不是我們。院長…… |
| transcript.gazette[217].quality |
0.814 |
| transcript.gazette[218].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[218].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:00.020000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:03.883000+08:00 |
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還是要督促地方政府檢討剛剛說的人性化的降速規定…… |
| transcript.gazette[218].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[219].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:03.883000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:04.883000+08:00 |
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對，速限的合理性。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[220].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[220].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:04.524000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:07.446000+08:00 |
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再來就是每一個路段一段時間要檢討。 |
| transcript.gazette[220].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[221].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:07.446000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:08.507000+08:00 |
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這個要馬上檢討啦，好不好？ |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[222].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:08.607000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:09.247000+08:00 |
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每一個路段要去檢討…… |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[223].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[223].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:09.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:10.268000+08:00 |
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可以、可以。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[224].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[224].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:10.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[224].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[224].end |
2026-03-06T15:48:13.190000+08:00 |
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若經常還是肇事，可能就要用其他的方法。 |
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0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[225].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:13.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:14.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].text |
我剩2分鐘而已。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[226].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[226].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:13.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:48:14.631000+08:00 |
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如果安全，我們這個方法…… |
| transcript.gazette[226].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[227].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[227].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:15.412000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:16.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].text |
最後三個…… |
| transcript.gazette[227].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[228].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:16.453000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:17.453000+08:00 |
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我們督促地方政府檢討。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[229].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:16.453000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:22.938000+08:00 |
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屏東三個建設，主席不讓我多2分鐘，不然我就講久一點。 |
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0.682 |
| transcript.gazette[230].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:25.940000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:43.469000+08:00 |
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屏北二快、高鐵、屏南快速道路，這三條我一起說，你們說要等到西元2037、2039、二零四幾年，我們坐不到，還沒坐到就死了耶！ |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[231].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[231].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:44.289000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:45.290000+08:00 |
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不會啦，你一定坐得到。 |
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0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[232].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:46.431000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:46.771000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[232].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[233].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[233].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:46.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[233].end |
2026-03-06T15:48:47.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].text |
這樣太誇張了。 |
| transcript.gazette[233].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[234].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[234].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:47.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[234].end |
2026-03-06T15:48:51.374000+08:00 |
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你說的屏南二快，在院長的指示之下…… |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[235].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[235].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:51.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:52.374000+08:00 |
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今年就要開工。 |
| transcript.gazette[235].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[236].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[236].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:51.674000+08:00 |
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2026-03-06T15:48:57.758000+08:00 |
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我們今年10月之前就會開工，院長有到現地看過，而且也有指示今年一定要開工，我們在10月…… |
| transcript.gazette[236].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[237].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[237].start |
2026-03-06T15:48:58.519000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:49:08.030000+08:00 |
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國道十號延伸到新威大橋，是我做第八屆立委時爭取、拍板的，你知不知道去年才剛開工？ |
| transcript.gazette[237].quality |
0.528 |
| transcript.gazette[238].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[238].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:08.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[238].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:09.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].text |
剛好10年。 |
| transcript.gazette[238].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[239].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[239].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:09.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[239].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:10.572000+08:00 |
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也是院長去開工的。 |
| transcript.gazette[239].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[240].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[240].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:11.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[240].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:12.433000+08:00 |
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院長，你開工的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[240].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[241].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[241].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:12.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[241].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:14.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].text |
開工遇到颱風又延期。 |
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0.222 |
| transcript.gazette[242].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[242].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:14.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[242].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:16.536000+08:00 |
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我要跟你說的是10年，10年！ |
| transcript.gazette[242].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[243].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[243].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:17.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[243].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[243].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:29.325000+08:00 |
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所以要感謝歷屆院長在行政院努力規劃，我們現在才有辦法做，所以高屏二快去年9月行政院核定，今年10月前我要求一定要順利的招標出去並開工。 |
| transcript.gazette[243].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[244].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[244].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:29.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[244].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:49:53.041000+08:00 |
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你要像五楊高架，五楊高架38.8公里就多段開工，這樣提早3年完工，所以院長，可以多段開工，讓它提早完工，不要一條路做一、二十年，會被人家笑死啦！ |
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0.746 |
| transcript.gazette[245].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
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2026-03-06T15:49:53.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[245].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[245].end |
2026-03-06T15:49:54.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[245].text |
枉費你們效率這麼好。 |
| transcript.gazette[245].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[246].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[246].start |
2026-03-06T15:49:54.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[246].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[246].end |
2026-03-06T15:50:00.964000+08:00 |
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我會請交通部研議更快的分段施工方式來進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[246].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[247].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[247].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:02.471000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[247].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[247].end |
2026-03-06T15:50:12.516000+08:00 |
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你看那個五楊高速高架道路總長不到39公里，提早3年完工。 |
| transcript.gazette[247].quality |
0.565 |
| transcript.gazette[248].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[248].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:12.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[248].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[248].end |
2026-03-06T15:50:17.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[248].text |
那條也規劃了很多年，它的用地取得也是有很大的問題，但這些已經一一克服了。 |
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0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[249].speaker |
蘇委員清泉 |
| transcript.gazette[249].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:19.099000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[249].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:50:20.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[249].text |
這個我會盯緊，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[249].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[250].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[250].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:21.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[250].guessed |
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2026-03-06T15:50:21.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[250].text |
委員，我們一起盯，謝謝。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[250].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[251].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-06T15:50:22.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[251].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-06T15:50:29.894286+08:00 |
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謝謝蘇清泉委員質詢、謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長備詢，非常感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[251].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[252].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-06T15:50:30.194286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[252].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-06T15:50:41.051429+08:00 |
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報告院會，本日排定質詢委員均已質詢完畢，謝謝卓院長、鄭副院長以及各部會首長列席答詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[252].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[253].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[253].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:41.351429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[253].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[253].end |
2026-03-06T15:50:48.208571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[253].text |
3月10日（星期二）上午9時繼續進行施政方針及施政報告之質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[253].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[254].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[254].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:48.508571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[254].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[254].end |
2026-03-06T15:50:56.794286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[254].text |
非常感謝陳培瑜委員、翁曉玲委員陪同我們一起參與今天的施政質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[254].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[255].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[255].start |
2026-03-06T15:50:57.094286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[255].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[255].end |
2026-03-06T15:50:58.237143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[255].text |
現在休息。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[256].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-06T15:50:58.537143+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-06T15:50:59.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[256].text |
休息（15時50分） |
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0 |