| IVOD_ID |
167435 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167435 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-03T17:34:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-03T17:50:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/321e35c043cc325bfd6d391a5800744705351cf5c593b4e3245355700a790848bee343b31a484f975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:34:57 - 17:50:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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最近美國關稅的法源變來變去最高法院也判決是違憲但是川普馬上又雕出了一個122條款他端出來我們行政院宣傳的ART也就是台美對等的貿易協定現在看來好像這個防禦力似乎有千瘡百孔 |
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在這樣的情況之下面對美國這種翻臉如翻書的關稅政策那麼政府我們現在都一直說持續的溝通 |
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所以本席今天我們希望能夠好好的來討論也就是針對於我們行政院針對於美國關稅的這個議題到底我們的底氣跟我們的準備所以我提出了三項的一個防線我們一起來討論首先賴總統告訴我們說我們取得了15%不疊加的好條件 |
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但是宣布的一二二條款是在2月24號就已經生效那麼同時我要請問這一刻台灣的工具機機械設備出口到美國那麼到底我們是要適用於ART是不疊加還是被強迫吞下要一二二條款的15%疊加請教 |
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我想委員一定是希望我們用最好的因為這些產業跟委員是最有相關的所以我們一定要好好照顧我們的產業所以我們要聽政府讓我們的民眾讓我們的產業他清楚不是不確定感你剛剛說是不是適用ART當然不是因為ART還沒有經過 |
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大院的審議還沒有生效阿德根本沒有生效這只是你剛剛說的我們現在底氣就是我們在阿德當中已經談到了最優惠的待遇這就是我們現在的底氣我們要把握這種最優惠的待遇跟委員一樣對你選區裡面的所有產業給他最好的照顧所以現在生效的是 |
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根據122的百分之十疊加MFN百分之十加MFN現在生效的這個那麼這個的之前是百分之二十加MFN所以我們是往下降的所以現在公居居是14再加MFN就是14然後機械業是大概11.5 |
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所以再請教我們目前很多的未確定感那麼我們也說ART的還沒有送進來那第二個也就是目前我們所謂的不疊加的這個部分那所以要請教在這個持續過程當中本身要請教有哪些產業 |
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他是在關稅在15%的疊加之下他是關稅是不減反增你們有沒有去盤點過15%不疊加有沒有去盤點過所影響產業的產業別有哪一些是嚴重的影響請說明 |
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我再跟委員確定一下我們15不疊加這個是還沒有生效的所以根本沒有實施的這個好 院長你講到這個20%加MFN降到現在的10加MFN對 所以院長現在就是您說的民眾產業有很多的不確定感 |
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所以你們行政院有沒有尤其經濟部在這裡有沒有針對於產業的不確定感他們的一個緊張導致不知如何投資這些的產業別你們預計要怎麼做第一個我們請 |
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這個公股銀行為主的金融機構已經主動用電話詢問中小企業你到底在這個關稅的變動當中有哪些需要政府現在啟用我們已經有的產業支持的方案與貸款與整個協助的金融保證協助的有沒有問題這個已經打出數萬通的電話這個是金融機構的那麼經濟部方面到各地針對各產業從過去的產業之旅到現在的關懷之旅 |
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281.994 |
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希望讓產業在現在這個衝擊沒有比以前大的情況底下能不能幫他轉手為攻讓他能夠吸引更多的訂單爭取更多的海外資源進來 |
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因為鮑委員在去年的時候因為是20加NFN然後關稅就浮來浮去大家心比較不硬訂單要不要貼對 心比較不硬你講到的這個是真實的面相但是今年因為10降下來了然後後續還會有ART所以心比較硬所以1月份那個訂單就很明顯的增加起來了那我們盡量在這段時間裡面需要我們幫助我們盡量先需要貸款的部分 |
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需要去參展 國際參展我們需要來協助需要轉型的部分我們來補助他們政府當然有責任要全面的尤其在我們的傳統產業裡頭它占了很多的就業率這一點是很重要因此在這樣條件之下還是有很多的不確定感 |
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剛剛卓院長也特別說了之前我們也一直要求行政院必須要針對於傳統產業怎麼樣協助他們能夠渡過難關所以在這樣的一個情況之下本席具體請教經濟部說產業支持目前你們是預計多少 |
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總共是930億嘛那我們經濟部的是460億好 請教院長在剛剛我們從開始的20到現在一直講的這個過程還是變再變的情況之下請教這460億本席認為是不夠的 |
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所以行政院有沒有要再增加這個金額的一個規劃譬如說現有的他們要怎麼樣渡過難關我的律師已經要繳不出來的情況之下我們會不會有第一個專案融資的一個額度 |
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來協助我們的產業第二個也就是舊有的例行有沒有減免的等項目的這些規劃請做說明我先跟委員說明我們原來設定這個產業支持的方案的內容 |
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八百八十億到九百三十億這個是依照百分之三十二的百分之三十的關稅這個是當時我們具體要求的現在百分之十或百分之十五這個委員剛剛說你認為不夠的那我希望委員能告訴我們你認為哪裡不夠原來百分之三十的時候我們訂了八百八十億後來再降 九百三十億現在已經降到百分之十五跟百分之十委員說哪裡不夠 告訴我們哪裡不夠 |
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院長 經濟部長在這裡我們知道我們的傳統產業目前是辛苦的 |
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目前是辛苦的所以我們才要要求政府必須要好好的來協助我們的傳統產業本期剛剛所說的就有的利息你會不會減免現在是有這些方案什麼時候要執行就是但是還是有一些條件院長我們除了特別預算之外我們本來年度預算中間還有109億的中小微企業院長我們要實質的來落實所以本期剛剛請問了 |
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我已經就有的例行 你們會不會有減免的方案會不會 會 那請問什麼時候要落實已經開始做了 已經開始實行了 所以我們也擴大宣導了已經開始實施了 部長 你說你現在一定會實施啦我們的選中參加 大家認證的都很多 |
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那你說你要有條件說啦那表示說還有很多人沒有辦法去取得到協助啊那時候是講說你的業績要衰退10%嘛就可以有利息減免嘛那我們可以重新檢討如果要反手為攻的話是不是還要這樣好 就依據轉手為攻在不確定感的時候我們必須要去調整腳步 |
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我們要的立法院通過的預算就是要真正能夠落實在我們的產業讓他們可以站穩腳步啊對不對您說的那些剛剛報告的利息的減免補貼等等在特別預算當中是有的而且各位報告特別預算還沒有通過之前經濟部就以緩計及就先做了 |
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所以已經做很久了請你去盤點不是做很久現在產業希望能夠真正得到協助就誠如剛剛部長所說的我們的條件是怎麼樣那我們在目前的樣態裡頭你是不是應該要好好去檢討來調整這個腳步跟你的條件才能夠真正來落實照顧我們的傳統產業我們一直跟產業界有做座談會那工協會也有 |
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那我們會隨時知道就是說企業界他們需要的幫助重點在哪裡只有本席剛才所提出的請你趕快去盤點給本席什麼時候可以落實好不好我們先做了有幾家 家宿的協助 |
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具體的案例可以跟委員提供已經做的本席告訴你的院長是沒有得到協助的你要怎麼樣去協助我們現在有這個產業輔導團是主動的去到各地方去了解說他們需要協助什麼然後 |
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診斷然後給他們協助好一個診斷但是產業界仍舊有需求所以我具體建議這個議題請你去盤點他們實際上需要的你的腳步怎麼去調真正能夠幫助我們的傳統產業這才是我們要的你多久時間可以給本席 |
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你調整的腳步調整的腳步就是我們隨時在調整啊但是到目前為止我可以寫一份報告給本席我們也好好的來協助沒有得到協助的院長是沒有得到協助我們要怎麼樣去調整這才是一個重點所以我們已經主動關懷了那我也可以跟你的選區裡面的產業去了解一下如果你跟他們熟的話 |
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如果有困難告訴我們我們把這個訊號再補上來所以一個重點不要只看得到才不會中這是很重要因為我們的傳統產業務必一定要協助他們好 |
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所以本席要說的因為目前為止美國的這個關稅體系呢他法源他隨時可以替換我想行政部門必須要好好的隨時去應對對不對當然第二個國安與產業的政策高度的政治化的時候在整個貿易的決策也深受了政治 |
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這個選舉戰略的一個考量這個也是我們務必要注意的最後一個 最重要的也就是不確定性成為常態的時候讓我們台灣企業所面臨到前所未有的營運風險這是政府的責任要好好讓他們有靠山 對不對所以我們盡快想把它情勢穩定下來所有的條件確定下來讓產業界有所依循他們就可以大膽的去多爭取一些海外的政策院長 你現在終於講出真心話 |
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你趕快把它確定讓我們產業可以安心這個就是本席一再說的這一個不確定感因為確定企業它最畏懼的並不是關稅的一個高低的輸贏我相信企業咱台灣的求雙龍就有個數它最怕的是無止境的不確定感這一點是非常的重要所以我們深怕的是今天是IPA |
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明天是122後天再轉回這個232條款或者是301這是我們所有的產業目前不確定感的一個最大的一個重點你點頭了也就是說如果這些的現象它是常態化那台灣的供應鏈在3到5年的一個量產規劃的時候它要如何安排 |
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尤其他整個企業的財務他要如何大幅度的盈虧的一個變化要怎麼樣跟股東來交代所以本席要具體來建立我們的合約裡頭到底有沒有因為情勢變更的原則有退場的條件有退場的條款請問卓院長 |
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我們應該沒有所謂退場的條款在裡面好 院長你回答這個我們的合約沒有退場的這個條款所以這就是我們的民間以及產業心所畏懼的所以呢那個 |
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我們的這個政府也說232條款的半導體它是有最惠國的待遇不便但是122條款裡頭打擊的是全面性的商品所以我們還是要嚴正以待就誠如剛才所說的不夠需求的我們要怎麼樣加碼這應該是行政院你們基於在照顧我們所有產業大家所一致的方向對不對 報告委員非常關心您所處的這個縣市的產業 |
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當然我們心中一直都是為產業爭取最大利益那美國高院的判決232MO條款裡面的優惠待遇是不受影響的那至於傳產農業所攸關的對等關稅因為IEP法院發生變化 |
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美方他們現在變數是來自美方他們的判決以及後續的法律工具的重整我們是去因應這樣的一個變化我們要在變動中去鞏固我們產業的這個利益那鞏固我們取得的談判結果我不知道委員您知不支持ART生效因為我想ART生效對您選區裡的產業是有幫助的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
對於傳統產業我們絕對全力的支持所以本席要提出我們並不是要退場我們也不是要重啟談判我們是要去鞏固既有的談判成果才是對我們的傳統產業跟農業的出口爭取到最大的利益所以本席要提出有最惠國的優惠是在半導體 |
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| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
902.318 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
但是我們的農漁業我們的傳產所以本席具體提出第一個關於實質讓利於底線的部分要讓民眾清楚第二個情勢變更的這個機制要怎麼去做這是第二個第三個關於企業界關心的掏空台灣的長期風險 |
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產業還是有關係我們不希望這樣的情勢發生所以針對這三項具體書面報告給本席 好嗎沒有這樣的一個問題謝謝因為投資MOU就是雙方的供應好 謝謝楊卓英委員質詢謝謝 謝謝卓院長 曾副院長以及經濟部長備詢 謝謝接下來我們請鍾嘉斌委員質詢廖先祥委員 |