| IVOD_ID |
167433 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167433 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-03T16:50:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-03T17:06:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/321e35c043cc325bdfbfb1cb9daba45a05351cf5c593b4e3b151ec866a2b73e8165d56d12b5959f05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:50:30 - 17:06:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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好 謝謝主席我請我們卓榮泰院長跟我們鄭麗君副院長麻煩再請卓院長 鄭副院長備選好 院長 副院長好黃委員好今天是元宵節所以也祝福我們現場 |
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包含我們的行政院院長、副院長還有我們各位首長還有我們立法院院長、秘書長還有我們所有同仁跟院裡面的同仁大家元宵節快樂謝謝委員那今天也是很臨時可能王定宇委員深陷他的情色風暴裡面所以我被通知臨時要提前來質詢這也很好 |
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所以但是我想在這邊我要做一個澄清因為我剛在下面聽的時候那麼卓院長一直在強調說我們今天質詢的很多位跨黨派的委員都很肯定我們這一次台美貿易談判包含我們ART的一個這樣子的一個談判的結果我覺得這個是有一些誤解跟扭曲 |
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因為事實上我們在這一次的談判事實上包含除了ART之外還有一個非常重要的是MOU嘛我們台美之間已經簽訂MOU而且更早簽訂而MOU |
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這個部分因為牽涉到高達5000億美元的投資所以我必須要說我們並不是對這次整個的談判的結果大家完全可以全盤接受的我覺得在這邊一定要做一些澄清尤其在這個MOU這個投資的部分5000億美元2500億的美元的直接投資 |
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還有是一個政府保證的部分 |
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對我們這麼龐大的投資金額並不是只有在野黨質疑事實上我們前行政院副院長施俊錡大家也知道他過去在蔡英文政府擔任非常重要的一個財經官員他就質疑這樣的一個談判的結果不但是把這個台灣的金金母拿走 |
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連未來可能衍生的雞雞蛋都拿走所以我必須要去提醒我們行政院針對這些應該還是要做全面性的來檢討跟補救那另外我想請教一下行政院我剛才講這次非常重要的除了ART之外ART的文本已經在行政院的官方網站公布了對不對 |
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公布了MOU重不重要因為這兩個一定是並行的而且未來如果送進立法院MOU會不會送進來一定送那我想請教為什麼MOU的文本沒有公布是美國不讓我們公布的嗎 |
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還是我們自己覺得可以不用公佈MOU的文本為何沒有公佈現在所有的人都可以在網站上每一條都非常清楚這個是公開透明是到現在才公開透明MOU已經早在一月份就簽署了為什麼到現在還沒有公佈可以回答嗎 |
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報告委員在1月15號跟商務部簽署MOU的時候其實商務部已經用Facesheet事實文件幾乎將所有的內容都公布了我方也用正式新聞稿新聞稿公布我們過去用新聞稿公布嗎當時我們也跟美方這個 |
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說明 也跟社會說明未來會跟ART並送國會對 既然並送國會ART的文本已經逐條公佈但是MOU卻沒有逐條公佈老師說剛才院長沒有辦法回答我們副院長講得結結巴巴我希望現在不要再有黑箱作業絕對沒有黑箱MOU請 可不可以 那你現在可不可以承諾 |
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明天就把MOU的每一條筆照ART每一條逐條公佈可不可以我們一定是MOU跟ART會並送國會我現在是問你公佈公佈嘛你到現在還不公佈 |
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內部的行政程序當時我們也說明會跟ART並送國會所以我想這一點的承諾包含ART 包含MOU 包含影響評估我們都會並送國會為什麼不公布到目前為止你還在繞副院長我不懂為什麼是因為怕醜嗎 |
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他公布出來會遭到一些質疑嗎好那我再想請問一下來請問副院長我們在台灣的部分要送國會嘛對不對那在美國的部分如果要最後生效的話要不要送美國國會 |
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他們以行政命令當時AEPA的行政命令他們是不需要送國會不需要送國會嗎過去通通都要只要牽涉到關稅相關的台灣都要送國會他們會通知當時以AEPA的法源好我再請 |
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請問一下他們會通知國會通知國會但是跟我國不一樣所以我們在第一次的談判就跟美方說我國的國會程序是法律保護我再請教一下因為所謂的生效跟美國是不一樣的所謂的生效要有它的程序請問一下USTR現在有上傳聯邦公告嗎 |
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因為就是我們在美國高院判決後因為美國最高法院判決違法所以呢現在USD1現在應該不敢去上傳聯邦公告好我現在問一個很重要的問題來來因為我時間有限來我要問一個很重要的問題 |
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我們擔心因為美國最高法院的一個判決而使得他整個的程序被拖延事實上從副院長上個星期開完記者會到今天你的專案報告事實上我們去比對了之後沒有什麼差別這一個禮拜幾乎沒有差別 |
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按照院長今天早上回答其實我翻成白話文就是呢我們等消息好我們等美國的消息好所以如果這樣子一個遙遙無期因為最主要是那個根據IEPA的部分已經被判決違法那麼未來有沒有可能如果按照副院長院長說啊這個MOU簽的多好多好我們不能跟動可是 |
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案長因為他現在有法律效力的問題他未來有沒有可能需要重簽 |
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這個我們現在要等美方沒有 您可能要請副院長講一下我們已經表達就是我們並不是重新談判而是在要後續的IEPA的法律基礎IEPA的法律基礎變動之後等美方它後續的法律框架安排之後我想這些訊息所以有沒有可能重簽我們雙方都希望鞏固既有的談判結果所以不排除以後續的程序我們必須要有美方更明確的資訊所以不排除重簽 |
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重啟談判跟重簽不一樣嘛 |
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不是 我們是希望確認 確認雙方已經談判的內容那確保我們這個成果 也確認美方對這個談判的內容給我們具體的說明你沒有聽懂我的意思喔 我講得非常清楚我們其實要讓我們現在的ART或MOU要變成有效 而且可以送進立法院 |
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老實說啦 以我現在來看只有重簽一途我不是說重新談判重新談判跟重簽不一樣副院長應該聽懂了院長你們回去討論一下其實如果今天然後說我現在覺得我們在國會上應該可能遙遙無期不知道什麼時候送來好 那我要請教的就是 |
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剛才賴思寶委員也問到就是因為你看到現在不管是這個要確定他的法律效力或者他未來的程序即便122條他的有效的期限150天150天5個月那我想請問一下副院長 |
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因為現在政界、政壇一直在盛傳你是台北市長的熱門候選人的熱門人選但是現在看起來整個的談判整個的未來整個的我們的ART跟MOU |
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他的時間或者是未來我們的關稅我剛講一二條他長達五個月如果再啟動232條款的調查301條款的調查起碼半年以上好我要請問一下副院長在這些都沒有抵定之前 |
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你會不會離開行政院副院長這是很重要工作嘛你會不會去選舉報告委員我想我現在一心就是希望說在美方後續的法律變動中要為我國國家利益跟產業利益爭取確保最大利益這是我現在唯一心中關切的事情 |
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所以我現在生活的關鍵字就是關稅兩個字沒有其他的就是關稅兩個字我想這裡是每個委員提醒我們應該要努力的目標這是我現在職責身為國家談判代表我最優先要做的事情就是在後續的變動中為我國家及產業爭取最大利益所以整個 |
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所以我們會把談判的事情用整個國家用政府的力量把談判的事情做好所以我才問我們都是在變數中挑戰爭取到結果 |
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我心中沒有這個問題啊為什麼我要回答這個問題我現在心中的目標就是要鞏固 |
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副院長是率領我們的談判團隊 談判團隊的代表之一那國家會用政府的力量把所有談判的事情做到最好保障國家跟產業最大的利益選舉的事情那是另外一回事委員應該是關心的還是關稅吧我當然關心關稅啊我剛才不是在講嗎對不對應該討論關稅而不是討論選舉 |
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對啊 可是很重要啊因為你今天如果不是主談判人我就不會問你這個問題我有沒有問左院長這個問題我沒有問左院長這個問題啊他也是那個人選之一好 我們回到這個有關於我們這個台北對等關稅上面我今天特別想說我們台灣半島底不是偷來的我覺得這一點非常非常重要不是 絕對不是真的太重要了今天啊今天我看到聯合報有一個投書 |
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也許大家沒有看到叫做王博元如果台灣科技界跟半導體界都知道他是響噹噹的人物他還是我們工研院的院士 |
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就是幾十年來半導體產業很多人從李國鼎先生開始引進人才 引進關鍵產業我們是一點一滴的把我們台灣半導體產業直視界的牛耳但是現在美國總統川普總統他一而再再而三的說我們是金面小偷 |
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所以我們偷走了美國的晶片所以我們台灣的半導體是偷來的我覺得適可忍 屬不可忍今天王伯源的意思就是他覺得這個事情是絕對不能讓它成為全世界大家誤以為台灣半導體業是偷來的 |
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我知道剛才我有看到賴思寶委員請兩位聲明就是我們不是晶片小偷我知道你們也有做這個聲明所以院長 |
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即便是貴為川普總統但是他一而再再而三的講出假訊息污蔑台灣半導體業我們該抗議的時候是不是該抗議我們該證明的時候是不是該證明具體的事實是現在全世界各國都會向台灣 |
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採購他們所需要的半導體晶片如果我們這個途徑是不合法的我想我們沒有世界上這樣的地位也不可能有這樣的競爭力我們是從過去您所說的那幾位重要的人士一點一滴到現在產業的自主研發才有現在的先進製程這麼好的良率 |
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所以您這個話我們都數次跟美方表達台灣的半導體是數十年來台灣能努力至今的成果所以我才會說這次談判我的感受就是世界看好台灣 需要台灣沒有錯 所以絕對川普總統的假訊息我們真的要蓋成心 一定要澄清另外 因為我剩下一點點時間 |
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這個有關於因為之前一直在講包含賴總統都說希望國會趕快審就是我們立法院趕快審但是我們審什麼呢因為到現在沒有進來根本連送都沒有送進來另外全世界我也去查了 |
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其實世界各國除了像日本它的審查是比較快的但是包含歐盟歐盟還在審歐盟現在是暫停審查因為他也是說我也不曉得現在到底是怎麼樣韓國也還在審好 |
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所以更多省的不一樣,不過我們的目標是成功的我們打開公聽會,一定要開公聽會,好不好一定要開公聽會,APPA開一千場公聽會 |
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好 謝謝王宏威委員的資訊謝謝卓院長 鄭副院長的備詢 謝謝我們接下來邱志偉委員的資訊 |