| IVOD_ID |
167415 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167415 |
| 日期 |
2026-02-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-02-24T11:22:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-02-24T11:54:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:32:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
傅崐萁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:22:31 - 11:54:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-02-24T10:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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請準備 |
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今天是中華民國一百一十五年第一個會席的施政總質詢剛剛聽完周榮泰院長了無新意面對現在世界經濟動盪的此刻看不到什麼明確的輪廓 |
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表示國家根本沒有做好相關的準備在這裡我們要特別強調一個有自信的國家在進行國際談判的時候第一個一定要堅持國家利益的極大化第二個要讓人民的風險降到最低 |
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但是這一次的台美經貿談判ART我們非常的失望人民看到的是第一個沉默先行細節不明交換條件模糊最重要是國會缺席一個 |
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有自信的政府不是這樣子來做事情國與國的談判本來就應該要開大門走大路台灣從來不缺實力缺的是政府有沒有自信我們不是不跟美國合作而是不能制度不明 |
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在不透明的情況之下來合作我們不是反對軍購是反對缺乏有節制與監督的軍購我們不是反對關稅協議而是反對不完整不公開不穩定的黑箱作業首先我們請 |
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負責談判的鄭麗君副院長請上台知道傅坤祺委員跟所有的委員依照憲法增修條文規定本院委員是向行政院院長及各部會所長進行諮詢因此 |
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除院長請假未能列席之外才能由副院長代為答詢原則上副院長上台備詢過去都有上台啊那沒關係那我們請卓院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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請問卓院長鄭麗君副院長主談這一次的協議卻在今天早上九點率先來開記者會在立法院國會執行之前先做意思表達然後今天應該 |
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主動向國會議長表達他可以主動上台解惑事宜既然代表我們的國家出去談判為什麼不能在國會殿堂做一個清楚的報告沒有關係我們尊重韓院長才是但是我們也希望鄭麗君副院長 |
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應該主動表達意願要上台來報告來說清楚來講明白請問卓院長我們跟美國台美簽署的ART是否有效 |
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我先跟委員說明大院3月3號已經排定了關稅談判的專案報告那一天政府院長是否依例能夠上台來報告我們要請韓院長還有大家來夠決定過去那一次是可以的所以今天並不是副院長不上來是3月3號你們已經排定了他就會來報告是不是專案都可以上台國會是一個最開放表達意見的地方 |
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沒有這麼多的限制如果跟鄭麗君副院長他有信心就應該站上來今天就應該站上來在全世界風起雲湧的今天就應該讓全國國人能夠了解報告委員這不是他有沒有信心的問題而不是躲在制度的保護傘下面請 請郭台銘院長請回答這個簽署是否有效要提我們跟美國簽署的ART |
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在全世界來看我們已經取得最優越的這個 |
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相對的優勢跟優惠的待遇那我們認為美方現在對於新的在因應最高法院判決之後他還在調整他的內部程序但是我們會堅持相信是否有效我們會相信主張而且會要求這種簽署雙方達成的協議應該繼續有效而且被尊重那麼將來必須要所以卓院長請回答本席的問題 |
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因為時間有限請明確回答本席有疑議的地方會再請教您所以LRT您認為有效這是經過美國最高法院大法官判定違憲的這樣的一個 |
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條例 您認為有效是判定違法違法 它的違法法律所以 OK 您說竟然違法違法 您認為有效違法是違法它國內這個違法法律那麼我們雙邊談的是基於國際上的談判主義所以齁 左院長 左院長 是你有沒有看到歐盟今天的議事表示 |
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有各個國家都有不同的立場表達對日韓我也看到歐盟已經清楚的表達要暫緩所有對美關稅的審議所以你還一廂情願一廂情願認為這是有效的我們現在還要探索美方現在政策的方向你竟然認為有效那北溪請教一下122條的15% |
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川普大帝宣布了這個部分對台灣有沒有疊加如果是現在122這個條款全世界通用是百分之十五疊加所以我說我們如果我們如果主張我們的ART的簽訂百分之十五不疊加那是比較有利的所以剛剛九點鐘鄭麗君副院長宣布我們不重啟談判 |
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好 不重啟談判面對15%的疊加台灣這些非IT 非232條款的這些台灣的產業要何去而從請委員能夠清楚的看到我們現在不是重啟不重啟的問題我們是請問你15%疊加的這些 |
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非二三法條款的這些產業要何去何從我們現在是要回答本席的問題已經簽署MOU跟ART這個部分我們要確認跟確保當中我們得到的最優惠的待遇繼續有效我們要確認跟確保這個要向美方來確認確保這個時候不是說重啟談判不重啟的問題這個問題已經回答過了本席在問你這些產業要何去何從 |
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跌下了15%也是左院長你在國會正式表達正式回答15%有跌加本席要請問你這些產業要何去何從我們爭取回來的15%不跌加也還沒有生效因為國會也還沒有通過最惠國待遇WTO以外我們現在面對的我們跟日本韓國最大的競爭者他們FTA我們沒有 |
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疊加的問題怎麼解決請院長回答問第三次了我已經回答第三次了我們現在要確認跟確保我們簽署的ART是不是繼續有效我們會爭取讓它繼續有效百分之十五不疊加的內容會遠遠好過現在的一二二的百分之十五加疊加只要我們維持原來的ART我們競爭力都會在 |
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這些被你丟包的產業希望你好好的去面對不要每一天發新聞行政院開了幾個小時的會面對15% |
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已經超過了48小時你們到底做了什麼全世界產業非常急的需要左院長的回答你選擇逃避不回答我已經回答了接下來台灣是有足夠相對的經濟實力來跟美國做貿易夥伴做商業談判 |
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而不是一味的丟盔棄角請問一下施俊錡前副院長表達希望在美國最高法院判決以後我們再來簽署請問卓院長你為什麼沒有採用這麼重要的提醒 |
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請委員信任鄭麗君副院長不要相信其他的說法相信現任的副院長才了解所有的狀態所以就是你們關起門來一家獨大 |
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707.8 |
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外面的聲音都不用聽所以相信民進黨就是相信卓榮泰院長相信曾立軍副院長沒有關係這就是卓院長的宣誓其他的忠告都可以不要聽不能做一個起碼就差這麼幾天就差這麼幾天就差這麼幾天表示卓院長 |
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753.804 |
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對自己底氣台灣有這麼強的經濟實力去年美國從台灣進口了將近兩千億美金的貨品到美國去我們對美國出鈔了一千五百億美金是美國最重要的前六大夥伴為什麼美國這麼需要台灣的產品 |
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我們不能有底氣有信心來跟他們談判而急著急救章要這麼急著來簽署這就是我們為什麼有急救章當初不是還有委員說我們太慢嗎接下來再請教好現在農林榆木我們現在對美國幾幾戶啊這個產業啊台灣取消99%的 |
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807.588 |
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關稅壁壘99%的關稅壁壘取消對美農產品26%的關稅牛肉乳製品玉米等關稅歸零請問一下院長這麼多台灣的農林榆木要面對零關稅的衝擊我們準備 |
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要怎麼處置我們一定有產業的支持而且委員會提醒不要說我們開放進口的部分我們也守住了稻米 牡蠣還有很多包括紅豆等等大蒜本期在問你是中級的產業嘛不要一直往自己臉上提起我們面對問題解決問題 |
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我們有農業支持 未來農業的實際沖刑再大的時候政府還準備300億的農安基金做後續的處理就講嘛 你準備了300億農安基金要補貼嘛那請問 補貼要補貼多久 |
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我們要看它衝擊的程度以及現在整個國際情勢繼續的發展我們也會幫助我們的農民做更多的多元市場開發 |
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這個產業還要不要跟牛台灣當然跟牛台灣我跟委員補充一下您剛才說的這些關稅的那個開放的一個程度事實上我們要看的是真正有進口的這些產品那其中有82.5%零關稅是對我們有利的因為它是我們原料為主這個報告主席 |
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請他針對我的問題回答本席的問題不是在這裡正經宣導他做了其他哪些事情本席為受難的產業在請命他不要去扯其他的事情能夠請他針對問題回答謝謝院長 |
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好我先回答那個委員的部分就是其實我們現在要看台美關稅的時候不是看絕對的零關稅的部分因為有很多零關稅是對台灣有利的其中有82.5的零關稅是本席已經講過了院長他又再三在這裡正義宣導本席問的問題他不回答你剛才問的問題就是這個陳部長請回好我繼續問左院長其他的問題 |
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總院長請問您收入金的殘留的標準行政院會不會再放寬提高會不會我們就依照 |
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科學根據跟國際的標準不是嘛 本席問你會不會提高嘛我們必須跟世界你只要告訴全國國人萊克多巴胺收尿菌的目前的標準會不會放寬國人健康的大原則底下只要符合科學 有科學根據根據國際的標準我們必須跟國際決定所以你現在要把0.04你所謂的 |
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1010.864 |
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Godex國際標準你是想要調到0.09是嗎只要他有科學的根據符合國際的標準我們為什麼要致力於之外呢為什麼未有權力的人就忘掉他當時善良理念的初心未有權力就可以這樣忘記過去對人民的承諾來我們來看一看我們來看一看 |
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過去民進黨怎麼承諾人民的我們來看一下民進黨執政的雲嘉南高平五個縣市首長也發出聯合聲明呼籲禁用瘦肉精拒吃毒豬牛如果說為了當總統然後犧牲人民的健康作為交換的條件那我想乾脆不要當也罷了市民國人都不會肯定也都不會支持當時民進黨要求林簡初而且賴清德當時的賴清德市長大聲疾呼 |
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絕對不能推讓林檢出公安健康是擺第一不然總統不要走啦所以本席特別請教你拜託卓院長不要打臉賴總統可以嗎 |
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我們沒有打臉過去的任何人我們根本是國際的標準過去就有這個國際的標準過去就有這個國際的標準 |
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好孩子的健康孩子的成長你們這一次開放了不得了這些肉製品包括絞肉包括內臟心臟腎臟都要進入台灣這裡面到底有沒有什麼狂牛症的疑慮有沒有疑慮這關係到不只是全國國人的健康還包括我們孩子的成長 |
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第一 美國的牛肉製品已經被正式認定為風險可忽略的國家的地區了所以它沒有任何的風險甚至我們進到台灣來的台灣來的任何豬肉 牛肉會在兒童 學童營養物在上面出現在民進黨執政的此時已經把這些美國的內臟已經放在忽略可以忽略不去注意的國家 |
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謝謝你們你應該查查最近的變化再過來我再請教一下台灣的整個生態系要搬到美國去台積電40%的產業要搬過去蕭美琴副總統又說這整個IT的生態系要搬到美國去這對台灣的傷害有多大卓院長跟流台灣第一個 |
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第一個不變的定律人才外移第二個就業機會的損失第三個沒有了在地的繳稅不只是人才流失在地的繳稅在地的消費通通遠離在地的存款 |
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也會遠離持續在台灣走今天消息還說出來所以卓院長所以卓院長本席請教一下這個這樣子我們對話沒有意義在地技術的保存在地技術的保存我們的科技我們的科技我們的科技核心的國家安全的科技是不是要留在台灣 |
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本席請教一下 經濟部上來本席就請教一下當然是跟劉台灣 這個我們一再一再的講韓口號是一件事情嘛 怎麼做是另外一件事情嘛台積公司在台灣繼續擴展建廠 難道是韓口號嗎請不要打斷本席的話經濟部頭審會已經同意了台積電赴美投資 通過了嗎 |
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他還沒有 就是前面幾個場 前面三個場是還沒有齁 經管會同意了嗎經管會 這個就不是我主管的範圍那卓院長經管會同意了嗎還沒有啦齁 中央銀行同意了嗎也不知道齁當然經濟部長可以了解啊台積電的股東大會同意了沒有你去了解一下 |
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都沒有任何人同意然後你們的約已經跟人家簽了我們沒有簽什麼約我們哪有跟誰簽了什麼約產業的自主投資跟產業自主的佈局政府沒有代替產業去承諾或去實踐任何的條件不要在國會殿堂一再的說謊嘛全世界都只有知道只有你們煙耳道鈴不知道 |
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這真的是開箱的大笑話我在這裡回答你就說我說謊說我造謠我們在這裡不回答你就說我黑箱那你到底要我怎麼辦本席就請教你一下我們現在你們簽了這個MOU回來ART我們現在投資美國6500億美金20兆台幣好我請教一下我們還是要為台灣 |
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國民黨 在野黨 必須為台灣安全來請命請問一下卓院長我們國家是不是應該把核心的科技技術要留在台灣 要不要保護 要不要 |
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| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
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當然所以我們全力發展AI新十大建設也為的就是如此啊因為全世界各國都是用嚴密最嚴格的程序最嚴格的法律來保護台灣要有競爭力不能空洞化我們台灣的核心就是整個IT AI產業現在本席在這裡請你卓院長行政團隊 |
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能不能在一個月之內把國家安全及核心技術保護條例送到立法院來包括晶片半導體的外移先進製程的數量限制法規及促進的管制研發與人才的留根對外投資合作的審議是不是可以請行政院 |
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在一個月內提出國家安全及核心基礎的保護條例可不可以委員所說的內容相當重要我們也有相對應的許多措施跟法律現在也在執行當中我可以把它整合起來如果哪裡有缺失我們來補強本市已經在這裡明確的提醒你願不願意行政院讓你們提出優先的版本國會會優先來審議您同不同意 |
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我說現在剛剛委員所說的那個內容政府已經有相關的法律在因應在處理哪裡有不夠的該修該立新的法該修修的法我們就來處理剛剛說國家都有相關的法律本席問了半天台積電去美國投審會沒有通過 |
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不是他還沒有提出所有的這些都沒有全世界都聽到美國已經宣布了投資審議這個本來就是多少個百分比的製造產的要去美國都已經宣布了產業自主的全球佈局將來執行的時候還是經過政府的程序但是他可以宣布將來還是按照程序來進行這樣哪裡有錯呢我們要尊重企業卓榮泰院長 |
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如果行政院不願意提出來我們會很負責任的為台灣為中華民國為所有國家的科技安全產業我們會提出我們會提出版本也希望行政院能夠提出我歡迎委員提出一個不違憲不違法可執行的那現在願意跟你討論請教一下簽的那個MOU裡面對美採購及投資848億美金 |
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本席請教過一次可不可以由美國方當台灣成如剛剛卓院長還有一再跳針的經濟部長說產業自己決定去美國投資那請問我們政府有沒有好好保護他們有沒有好好輔導他們能夠跟美國談辦法搖桿挺直由美國負責提供相關的貸款 |
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可不可以 可不可以 相關的什麼 貸款這個如果是採購的話本來就有相關的這個如果是國營事業他本來就有編預算在執行的或是他們那投資呢 你們剛剛不是講了產業自主投資啊要投資我們要不要 請美國這麼重大的事項 |
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因為談了半天不知道這件事情如果企業方他們要投資可以用自我資金也可以用貸款那政府在哪裡他要跟台灣貸款我們會用國家保證那他要跟美國銀行貸款我們也會協助所以你就講嘛你們會跟美國談好對企業貸款的美方銀行的協助嗎可以嗎我們會來 謝謝 |
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再過來對美投資是贏是虧這關係到台灣整體的經濟實力跟發展有沒有可能尤其在政府對美如果有投資的部分或者產業對美投資的部分是不是可以請美國政府輔導 |
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讓美國這些重大的金融機構能夠來IPO這些相關產業包括阿拉斯加要去買管要去投資可不可以由他們IPO公司在確保台灣投資的母金也確保有保證的獲利可不可以保護台灣的產業 |
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到外面投資能夠確保他們的利益可以嗎報告委員就是說企業界他們在做投資會做詳細的投資報告或投資評估 |
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| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
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北溪請教的你是政府在哪裡因為你跟他簽了一個總額簽了一個總額他如果決定了他要啟動投資的話那政府一定會協助他北溪已經第二次在院會質詢請美國的金融機構除了提供貸款還要最好用IPO公司債的形式確保台灣 |
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本金不會流失第二個有確定每年的這個利益的保障本席希望你們能做到再過來請問一下對美這次的談判還有沒有什麼東西國會不知道還有多少案盤還有多少大家所不知的情況有沒有 |
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1748.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
基於國際談判的慣例在事實的時間我們會向國人跟國會做說明報告最終還要送到國會來審議所以委員不必擔心一切都攤在陽光之下我們秉持的當然是國家跟產業最大的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1749.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1776.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
那這個部分也是委員一開始在這裡紅白的那一段我們都做到了剛剛說台積電要去美國還沒有提出你們也不知道這個事來台積電產業自主的同事我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案盤我們來看一下有沒有案� |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1782.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1803.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
我們只用雙方談定的文本內容來當作雙邊未來必須執行的內容台積電的投資計畫台積電說了算他都有董事會他有股東會最後昨天您說核電要重啟本席很樂意 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1804.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1829.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
你們看看美國現在要重新啊不只增加核電要增加多少倍的核電你看清楚一群核電廠營運高層排排戰川普23日簽署一系列行政命令要讓美國的核能再次偉大增78%白宮希望在川普第二任期結束前測試部署新的反應爐打算25年內讓核電成長4倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1833.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1860.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
美國現在要讓美國的核電成長四倍民進黨的神主牌讓台灣影響了多少我們的發展看一看美國核電要成長四倍因應AI IT產業大量用電的需求才有國家的競爭力最後看一下什麼叫黑箱什麼叫黑箱的談判我們看一下過去什麼叫黑箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1862.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1886.413 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
那麼在很多必要守住的關頭他都也沒有守住一直節節敗退我們真的想問總統你在急什麼那難道這麼重大的事情台灣社會不應該參與國會不應該監督嗎所以我也要在這裡呼籲我們的國會一定要強力的監督當政府已經喪失了替人民保關的功能的時候我們就期待國會要扮演這個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1887.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1898.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
必要守住的地方政府院長 楊珍妮政委 鄰居 談判團隊都已經幫我們守住了我們該在他們的地方我們也有產業的支持來讓產業跟我們的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1900.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1920.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
一個佛帽就像一個照妖鏡一樣看出這種行政獨裁的心態整個過程黑箱作業簽訂前說不能講簽訂後說不能改不給審查現在看起來讓了一點步結果是只能審不能改一樣傲慢黑箱道理行政獨裁至此好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1929.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1934.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
好謝謝時間已到謝謝福崑崎委員的資訊謝謝主任長相關部會首長的 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-02-24T11:23:05.366000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-02-24T11:23:38.783000+08:00 |
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今天是中華民國115年第一個會期的施政總質詢，剛剛聽完卓榮泰院長了無新意的報告，在面對現在世界經濟動盪的此刻，卻看不到什麼明確的輪廓，表示國家根本沒有做好相關的準備。 |
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0.907 |
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傅委員崐萁 |
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2026-02-24T11:23:38.783000+08:00 |
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2026-02-24T11:24:00.167000+08:00 |
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在這裡我們要特別強調，一個有自信的國家在進行國際談判的時候，第一個是一定要堅持國家利益的極大化；第二個是要讓人民的風險降到最低。 |
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0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-02-24T11:24:01.848000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-02-24T11:24:28.716000+08:00 |
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但是這一次的臺美經貿談判（ART）讓我們非常失望，人民第一個看到的是承諾先行、細節不明，交換條件模糊，最重要的是國會缺席。 |
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0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-02-24T11:24:28.856000+08:00 |
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2026-02-24T11:24:52.855000+08:00 |
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一個有自信的政府不是這樣子來做事情，國與國的談判本來就應該要開大門、走大路，臺灣從來不缺實力，重要的是政府有沒有自信。 |
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0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-02-24T11:24:54.616000+08:00 |
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2026-02-24T11:25:28.194000+08:00 |
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我們不是不跟美國合作，而是不能制度不明，在不透明的情況之下來合作；我們不是反對軍購，是反對缺乏有節制與監督的軍購；我們不是反對關稅協議，而是反對不完整、不公開、不穩定的黑箱作業。 |
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1 |
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傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-02-24T11:25:28.194000+08:00 |
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2026-02-24T11:25:37.031000+08:00 |
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首先，請負責談判的鄭麗君副院長，請上臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
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主席 |
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2026-02-24T11:25:45.713000+08:00 |
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2026-02-24T11:26:05.077000+08:00 |
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報告傅崐萁委員及所有的委員，依照憲法增修條文規定，本院委員向行政院院長及各部會首長進行質詢，因此，除院長請假未能列席之外，才能由副院長代為答詢，原則上副院長不上臺備詢，向傅委員及各位委員說明。 |
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0.784 |
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傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-02-24T11:26:05.077000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-02-24T11:26:06.338000+08:00 |
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過去都有上臺啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-02-24T11:26:09.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-02-24T11:26:11.203000+08:00 |
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沒關係，請卓院長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-02-24T11:26:11.203000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-02-24T11:26:11.803000+08:00 |
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麻煩請卓院長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-02-24T11:26:11.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-02-24T11:26:28.209000+08:00 |
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傅委員好。 |
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0 |
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傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-02-24T11:26:28.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:05.646000+08:00 |
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請問卓院長，鄭麗君副院長主談這一次的協議，卻在今天早上9點率先開記者會，在立法院、國會質詢之前先做意思表達，今天應該主動向國會議長表達他可以上臺解惑釋疑，既然代表我們的國家出去談判，為什麼不能在國會殿堂清楚的報告？ |
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0.959 |
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傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:07.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:23.372000+08:00 |
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沒有關係，我們尊重韓院長的裁示，但是我們也希望鄭麗君副院長應該主動表達意願要上臺報告，說清楚、講明白。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:25.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:30.995000+08:00 |
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請問卓院長，我們與美國簽署的臺美ART是否有效？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:32.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:53.485000+08:00 |
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我先跟委員說明，大院3月3日已經排定關稅談判的專案報告，那一天鄭副院長是否依例能夠上臺報告，我們要請韓院長還有大家來決定，過去那一次是可以的，所以今天並不是副院長不上臺，是3月3日你們已經排定了，他就會來報告。 |
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0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:53.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:54.485000+08:00 |
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沒有關係，謝謝。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:53.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:56.127000+08:00 |
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是不是專案都可以上臺？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:57.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-02-24T11:27:59.990000+08:00 |
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國會是一個最開放表達意見的地方…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-02-24T11:27:59.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:01.463000+08:00 |
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國會也是一個必須…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:01.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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2026-02-24T11:28:13.649000+08:00 |
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沒有這麼多的限制，如果鄭麗君副院長有信心就應該站上來，今天就應該站上來，在全世界風起雲湧的今天，就應該讓全國國人能夠了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:14.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:16.310000+08:00 |
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報告委員，這不是他有沒有信心的問題，楊珍妮政委也可以上臺嗎？ |
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0.593 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:16.310000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:17.811000+08:00 |
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而不是躲在制度的保護傘下面。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:17.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
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2026-02-24T11:28:18.811000+08:00 |
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楊珍妮政委也可以上臺嗎？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:18.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:19.811000+08:00 |
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這不是信心的問題，這是規定的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:17.991000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:19.572000+08:00 |
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請卓榮泰院長回答ART的簽署是否有效？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:21.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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2026-02-24T11:28:46.492000+08:00 |
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我們跟美國簽署的ART，在全世界來看，我們已經取得最優越的相對優勢與優惠待遇，我們認為美方現在對於新的、在因應最高法院判決之後還在調整內部程序，但是我們會堅持相信…… |
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0.987 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:48.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:49.934000+08:00 |
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本席請問你是否有效？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:50.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-02-24T11:28:58.038000+08:00 |
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我們會相信主張，而且會要求這種簽署、雙方達成的協議應該繼續有效，而且被尊重，將來必須要公平執行。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-02-24T11:28:58.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-02-24T11:29:31.445000+08:00 |
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卓院長，請回答本席的問題，因為時間有限，請明確回答，本席有疑義的地方會再請教你，所以你認為ART有效，這是經過美國最高法院大法官判定違憲的，這樣的條例你認為有效？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-02-24T11:29:31.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-02-24T11:29:36.330000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
是判定違法，違反他的IEEPA法律。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.562 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-02-24T11:29:36.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-02-24T11:29:40.715000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
OK，即然你說違法，違法你認為有效？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-02-24T11:29:41.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-02-24T11:29:46.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
違法是違反他的國內IEEPA法律，我們雙邊談的是基於國際上的談判…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-02-24T11:29:47.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-02-24T11:29:51.907000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
卓院長，你有沒有看到歐盟今天的意思表示？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-02-24T11:29:52.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-02-24T11:29:55.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
有，各個國家都有不同的立場表達，日、韓我也看到了。對！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-02-24T11:29:55.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-02-24T11:30:08.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
歐盟已經清楚表達要暫緩所有對美關稅的審議，所以你還一廂情願認為這是有效的。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-02-24T11:30:08.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-02-24T11:30:12.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我們現在還要探知美方現在政策的方向。好！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-02-24T11:30:12.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-02-24T11:30:31.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
卓院長，你既然認為有效，本席請教一下第一百二十二條的15%，川普大帝宣布了，這部分對臺灣有沒有疊加？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.721 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-02-24T11:30:33.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-02-24T11:30:39.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
現在只要是第一百二十二條這個條款，全世界通用是15%疊加，所以我說我們如果主張…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.629 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-02-24T11:30:39.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-02-24T11:30:40.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
疊加，好！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-02-24T11:30:40.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-02-24T11:30:45.136000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
如果主張我們ART的簽訂15%不疊加，那是比較有利的。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-02-24T11:30:47.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:02.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
卓院長，剛剛9點鐘鄭麗君副院長宣布我們不重啟談判，面對15%的疊加，臺灣這些非IT、非第兩百三十二條款的產業要何去何從？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:02.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:03.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
請卓院長回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:02.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:04.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
委員能夠清楚地看到，我們現在不是重啟不重啟的問題，我們是確認…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:04.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:23.835000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
請問你疊加15%、非第兩百三十二條款的這些產業要何去何從？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.76 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:24.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:25.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
請回答本席的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:25.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:39.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
現在是要尊重我們已經簽署MOU跟ART，我們要確認跟確保當中我們得到的最優惠待遇繼續有效，這個要向美方來確認、確保，這個時候不是說重啟談判、不重啟的問題，而是我們現在先確認。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.787 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:39.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:40.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這個問題你已經回答過了……對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:40.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:41.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
本席在問你這些產業要何去何從？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:47.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-02-24T11:31:57.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
疊加的15%也是卓院長在國會正式表達、正式回答15%要疊加，所以本席請問你這些產業要何去何從，你們的對策跟方法？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-02-24T11:31:57.293000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:04.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我們爭取回來的15%不疊加也還沒有生效，因為國會也還沒有通過，美方的行政命令也還沒有完成…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:04.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:18.890000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
最惠國待遇，除WTO以外，我們現在面對最大競爭者日本、韓國是他們有FTA，但我們沒有，疊加的問題怎麼解決，請院長回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.827 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:20.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:20.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
這問第三次了。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:21.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:22.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我已經回答第三次了。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:23.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:38.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
現在要確認跟確保我們簽署的ART是不是繼續有效，我們會爭取讓它繼續有效，15%不疊加的內容會遠遠好過現在第一百二十二條的15%加疊加，只要我們維持原來的ART，我們競爭力都會在。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:40.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:41.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
卓院長，這些被你丟包的產業…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:41.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:42.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
政府沒有丟包任何一個人。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:41.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-02-24T11:32:59.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
希望你好好地去面對，不要每一天發新聞說行政院開了幾個小時的會、幾個小時的會、幾個小時的會，面對15%已經超過48小時，你們到底做了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.759 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-02-24T11:32:59.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:02.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
全世界現在都還沒有實施。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.273 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:02.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:05.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
這些產業非常急地需要卓院長的回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:05.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:06.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
全世界現在都面臨相同的狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:06.262000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:08.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你選擇逃避不回答，全國國人瞭解…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:09.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:10.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
我已經回答了！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:10.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:27.714000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
接下來，臺灣是有足夠相對的經濟實力來跟美國做貿易夥伴、做商業談判，而不是一味丟盔棄甲。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:29.615000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-02-24T11:33:49.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
請問一下，施俊吉前副院長表達希望在美國最高法院判決以後我們再來簽署，請問卓院長，你為什麼沒有採用這麼重要的提醒？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-02-24T11:33:51.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:02.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
請委員信任鄭麗君副院長，不要相信其他的說法，相信現任的副院長才瞭解所有的狀態。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:02.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:03.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
沒有關係，好！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:02.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:15.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
所以你們關起門來一家獨大，外面的聲音都不用聽，相信民進黨就是相信卓榮泰院長、相信鄭麗君副院長，沒有關係，這就是卓院長的宣示…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:15.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:16.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
談判回來之後，國內的反映委員是知道的，為什麼對談判團隊要這麼殘忍地批評呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:15.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:16.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
其他的忠告都可以不要聽…… |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:16.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:17.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
為什麼對談判團隊這麼樣苛刻地批評呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:16.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:17.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
不能做一個……起碼就差這麼幾天…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:17.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:18.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
給談判團隊一點鼓勵有那麼困難嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:17.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:17.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
就差這麼幾天…… |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:17.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-02-24T11:34:18.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
給談判團隊一點肯定有那麼困難嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.067 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-02-24T11:34:18.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-02-24T11:35:12.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
表示卓院長對自己的底氣……臺灣有這麼強的經濟實力，去年美國從臺灣進口將近兩千億美金的貨品到美國，我們對美國出超了1,500億美金，是美國最重要的前六大夥伴，為什麼美國這麼需要臺灣的產品，我們不能有底氣、有信心來跟他們談判，而要急就章、要這麼急著來簽署？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-02-24T11:35:12.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-02-24T11:35:15.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
這就造成今天的結果。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.222 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-02-24T11:35:15.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-02-24T11:35:16.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我們為什麼急就章？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-02-24T11:35:16.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-02-24T11:35:19.077000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
當初不是還有委員說我們太慢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-02-24T11:35:19.077000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:02.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
接下來再請教農林漁牧的部分，臺灣現在對美國產業取消99%的關稅壁壘，取消對美農產品26%關稅，牛肉、乳製品、玉米等關稅歸零，請問一下院長，這麼多臺灣的農林漁牧要面對零關稅的衝擊，我們準備要怎麼處置？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:03.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:13.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我們已經有產業的支持，而且委員，我要提醒，不要說我們開放進口的部分，我們也守住了稻米、牡蠣，還有很多，包括紅豆、大蒜等等…… |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:14.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:17.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
本席在問你受衝擊的產業，不要一直往自己臉上貼金嘛…… |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.696 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:17.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:18.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
衝擊的部分，我們就是有產業支持啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.133 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:17.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:17.928000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我們針對問題、解決問題，本席在問你問題，你就回答嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.318 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:20.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:21.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
好，我們有產業支持，我們有農業支持，未來農業的實際衝擊更大的時候…… |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.621 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:21.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:22.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
受衝擊的產業要怎麼解決嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:21.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:22.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
政府還準備300億的農安基金做後續的處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:22.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:23.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
就講嘛，你準備了300億農安基金要補貼嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:23.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:24.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
早就講了啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:23.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:23.834000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
好，那請問補貼要補貼多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:41.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:49.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
我們要看衝擊的程度以及現在整個國際情勢的後續發展，我們也會幫助農民做更多的多元市場開發。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:49.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:53.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
補貼能補貼多少年？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:53.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:55.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
這個產業還要不要根留臺灣？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:55.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:56.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
你能補貼多少年？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:55.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-02-24T11:36:57.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
當然根留臺灣啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-02-24T11:36:57.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:13.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
我跟委員補充一下，您剛才說的這些關稅的開放程度，事實上我們要看的是真正有進口的產品，其中有82.5%是零關稅，是對我們有利的，因為這是我們的原料為主。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:13.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:14.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
卓院長…… |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:13.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:13.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
報告主席…… |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:13.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:19.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
時間暫停，請。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:19.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:26.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
請他針對我的問題回答，針對本席的問題，不是在這裡政令宣導他做了其他哪些事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:27.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:34.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
本席為受難的產業在請命，他不要去扯其他的事情，能否請他針對問題回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:35.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:35.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:35.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:38.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
時間繼續。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:38.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:42.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
部長，請。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:42.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:55.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
我先回答委員的部分，其實我們現在要看臺美關稅，不是看絕對的零關稅的部分，因為有很多零關稅是對臺灣有利的，其中有82.5%的零關稅是對臺灣本身的…… |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:55.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:57.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
本席已經講過了，院長，他又再三在這裡政令宣導，本席問的問題他不回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:57.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-02-24T11:37:59.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
你剛才問的問題就是這個啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-02-24T11:37:59.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:01.052000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
陳部長請回，我繼續問卓院長其他的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:01.052000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:10.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
陳部長請回。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:10.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:22.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
卓院長，請問您，瘦肉精的殘留標準，行政院會不會再放寬提高？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:23.748000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:26.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
我們就依照科學根據跟國際的標準。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:26.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:28.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
不是嘛，本席問你會不會提高嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:29.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:30.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
我們必須跟世界…… |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:30.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:38.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
你只要告訴全國國人，萊克多巴胺、瘦肉精目前的標準會不會放寬？ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:38.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:39.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
會還是不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:38.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:45.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
在國人健康的大原則底下，只要有科學根據，符合國際的標準，我們必須跟國際接軌。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.853 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:46.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-02-24T11:38:58.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
所以你現在想要把0.04ppm，根據所謂的Codex國際標準調到0.09ppm，是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-02-24T11:38:58.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-02-24T11:39:03.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
只要有科學根據、符合國際的標準，我們為什麼要自立於國際之外呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-02-24T11:39:04.129000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-02-24T11:39:11.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
為什麼握有權力的人就忘掉他當時善良理念的初心？ |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-02-24T11:39:12.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-02-24T11:39:19.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
握有權力就可以這樣忘記過去對人民的承諾？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-02-24T11:39:21.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-02-24T11:39:25.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
我們來看一看過去民進黨怎麼承諾人民的，我們來看一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-02-24T11:39:25.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-02-24T11:39:40.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
（播放影片） |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-02-24T11:39:40.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-02-24T11:39:57.774000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
當時民進黨要求零檢出，而且當時的賴清德市長大聲疾呼：絕對不能退讓，零檢出，國人健康擺第一，不然不要當總統了！ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.771 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:00.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:04.799000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
所以本席特別請教你，拜託卓院長不要打臉賴總統可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:06.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:09.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
我們沒有打臉過去的任何人，我們跟的是國際的標準，只要世界上這套標準，全世界…… |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:10.850000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:12.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
過去就有這個國際的標準，過去就有這個國際的標準！ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:12.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:16.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
部長回答一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:16.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:20.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
跟委員報告，我們目前萊克多巴胺的標準都是參考國際Codex…… |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:20.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:25.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
好，那個不用再講，不用政令宣導，過去就有國際的標準…… |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.045 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:25.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:29.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
還有國人的飲用及使用習慣…… |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:29.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:33.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
你們現在當時的初衷現在都不算了，讓人民看見就好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:33.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:38.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
接下來基改食品有多少要放進來？沒有。確定？確定。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:38.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:42.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
關於孩子的健康、孩子的成長，你們這一次開放了……不得了！ |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-02-24T11:40:44.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-02-24T11:40:57.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
這些肉製品包括絞肉、內臟、心臟、腎臟都要進入臺灣，這裡面到底有沒有狂牛症的疑慮？ |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-02-24T11:41:00.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-02-24T11:41:03.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
這關係到的不只是全國國人的健康，還包括孩子的成長。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-02-24T11:41:05.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-02-24T11:41:24.108000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
第一，美國的牛肉製品已經被正式認定為風險可忽略的國家、地區了，所以它沒有任何的風險，甚至進到臺灣的任何豬肉、牛肉不會在學童營養午餐出現。 |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-02-24T11:41:24.108000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-02-24T11:41:35.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
在民進黨執政的此時，已經把這些美國的內臟放在可以忽略、不去注意的國家，謝謝你們。 |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-02-24T11:41:35.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-02-24T11:41:36.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
你應該查查最近的變化。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-02-24T11:41:38.135000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:01.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
再過來我再請教一下，臺灣的整個生態系要搬到美國，台積電40%的產業要搬過去，蕭美琴副總統又說這整個IT生態系要搬到美國，這對臺灣的傷害有多大，卓院長？ |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:01.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:04.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
根留臺灣是不變的定律。 |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:05.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:24.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
第一個，人才外移；第二個，就業機會的損失；第三個，沒有了在地的繳稅，不只是人才流失，在地的繳稅、在地的消費通通遠離。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:24.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:25.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
台積電持續在臺灣…… |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:24.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:30.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
在地的存款也會遠離。 |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
龔部長明鑫：持續在臺灣投資，今天還有消息出來 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:30.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:34.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
10座半導體的晶圓廠…… |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:34.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:39.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
所以卓院長，本席請教一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:39.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:43.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
委員，你應該看看整個變化，而不是看你手上的資料來詢答，這樣子我們的對話沒有意義，完全錯誤的資訊！ |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.279 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:43.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:44.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
關於在地技術的保存…… |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:44.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:48.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].text |
最先進的技術都留在臺灣。 |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:48.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:55.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
我們的科技、國家安全的核心科技是不是要留在臺灣？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:55.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-02-24T11:42:56.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
根留臺灣！ |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-02-24T11:42:56.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:00.949000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].text |
本席請教一下，既然經濟部上來，本席就請教一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:01.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:04.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
當然是根留臺灣，這個我們一再的講。 |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:04.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:07.052000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].text |
喊口號是一件事情，怎麼做是另外一件事情，本席請教一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
0.708 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:07.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:09.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].text |
台積電公司在臺灣繼續擴廠、建廠難道是喊口號嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:09.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[153].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:09.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].text |
請不要打斷本席的話。 |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:09.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:10.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].text |
經濟部投審會已經同意了台積電赴美投資，通過了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:22.042000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:25.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
還沒有，就是前面幾個廠、前面3個廠是…… |
| transcript.gazette[155].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:25.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:25.844000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].text |
還沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:26.864000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:28.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].text |
金管會同意了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:29.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:30.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].text |
這個就不是我主管的範圍。 |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:32.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:36.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].text |
卓院長，金管會同意了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:36.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:36.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
還沒有，沒有關係…… |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:36.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:37.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].text |
彭主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:37.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:39.628000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].text |
中央銀行同意了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:39.628000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:39.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
也不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:41.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:45.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
當然經濟部長可以了解一下，台積電的股東大會同意了沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:46.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:47.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].text |
你去了解一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[166].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[166].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:48.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[166].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:51.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].text |
都沒有任何人同意，然後你們的約已經跟人家簽了！ |
| transcript.gazette[166].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[167].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[167].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:52.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[167].end |
2026-02-24T11:43:57.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].text |
我們沒有簽什麼約，我們哪有跟誰簽了什麼約？ |
| transcript.gazette[167].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[168].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[168].start |
2026-02-24T11:43:57.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[168].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:03.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].text |
產業的自主投資跟產業的布局，政府沒有代替產業去承諾或去實踐任何的條件。 |
| transcript.gazette[168].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[169].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[169].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:05.094000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[169].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:16.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].text |
不要在國會殿堂一再的說謊，全世界都知道，只有你們掩耳盜鈴不知道，這真的是開天下的大笑話！ |
| transcript.gazette[169].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[170].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[170].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:16.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[170].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:17.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].text |
全世界都知道…… |
| transcript.gazette[170].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[171].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[171].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:17.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[171].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:18.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].text |
委員，我真的很為難！ |
| transcript.gazette[171].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[172].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[172].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:16.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[172].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:22.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].text |
我在這裡回答，你就說我說謊、說我造謠；我們在這裡不回答，你就說我黑箱。 |
| transcript.gazette[172].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[173].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[173].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:22.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[173].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:23.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].text |
那你到底要我怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[173].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[174].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[174].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:23.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[174].end |
2026-02-24T11:44:48.675000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].text |
本席就請教你一下，現在你們簽了這個MOU（ART）回來，我們現在投資美國6,500億美金、20兆臺幣，我請教一下，我們還是要為臺灣……國民黨、在野黨必須為臺灣的安全來請命！ |
| transcript.gazette[174].quality |
0.942 |
| transcript.gazette[175].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[175].start |
2026-02-24T11:44:51.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[175].end |
2026-02-24T11:45:00.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].text |
請問一下卓院長，我們國家是不是應該把核心的科技技術留在臺灣？ |
| transcript.gazette[175].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[176].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[176].start |
2026-02-24T11:45:00.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[176].end |
2026-02-24T11:45:01.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].text |
要不要保護？ |
| transcript.gazette[176].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[177].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[177].start |
2026-02-24T11:45:01.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[177].end |
2026-02-24T11:45:01.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].text |
要不要？ |
| transcript.gazette[177].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[178].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[178].start |
2026-02-24T11:45:02.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[178].end |
2026-02-24T11:45:06.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].text |
當然，所以我們全力發展AI新十大建設，為的就是如此。好！ |
| transcript.gazette[178].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[179].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[179].start |
2026-02-24T11:45:07.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[179].end |
2026-02-24T11:45:40.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].text |
因為全世界各國都是用嚴密、最嚴格的程序、最嚴格的法律來保護，臺灣要有競爭力，不能空洞化，臺灣的核心就是整個IT、AI產業，現在本席在這裡請卓院長及行政團隊能不能在一個月之內，把國家安全及核心技術保護條例送到立法院？ |
| transcript.gazette[179].quality |
0.99 |
| transcript.gazette[180].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[180].start |
2026-02-24T11:45:42.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[180].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:06.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].text |
包括晶片、半導體的外移、先進製程的數量限制、法規及出境的管制、研發與人才的留根、對外投資合作的審議，是不是可以請行政院在一個月內提出國家安全及核心技術的保護條例？ |
| transcript.gazette[180].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[181].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[181].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:06.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[181].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:07.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[181].text |
可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[181].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[182].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[182].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:07.722000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[182].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:18.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[182].text |
委員所說的內容相當重要，我們也有相對應的許多措施跟法律，現在也在實行當中，我可以把它整合起來，如果哪裡有缺失，我們來補強。 |
| transcript.gazette[182].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[183].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[183].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:18.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[183].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:31.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[183].text |
本席已經在這裡明確的提醒，您願不願意讓你們行政院提出版本，國會會優先來審議，您同不同意？ |
| transcript.gazette[183].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[184].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[184].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:32.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[184].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:41.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[184].text |
剛剛委員所說的那個內容，政府已經有相關的法律在因應、在處理，哪裡有不夠的，該修的法、該立新的法，我們就來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[184].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[185].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[185].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:42.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[185].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:48.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[185].text |
你們剛剛說國家都有相關的法律，本席問了半天，台積電去美國，投審會沒有通過。 |
| transcript.gazette[185].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[186].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[186].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:49.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[186].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:50.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[186].text |
不是，他還沒有提出來，前面3座都已經通過了…… |
| transcript.gazette[186].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[187].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[187].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:51.036000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[187].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:56.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[187].text |
所有的這些都沒有，全世界都聽到美國已經宣布了台積電要去…… |
| transcript.gazette[187].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[188].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[188].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:57.118000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[188].end |
2026-02-24T11:46:58.618000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[188].text |
沒有，投資審議這個本來就是正常的…… |
| transcript.gazette[188].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[189].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[189].start |
2026-02-24T11:46:59.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[189].end |
2026-02-24T11:47:05.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[189].text |
連多少個百分比的製造產能要去美國，都已經宣布了。 |
| transcript.gazette[189].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[190].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[190].start |
2026-02-24T11:47:05.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[190].end |
2026-02-24T11:47:15.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[190].text |
產業自主的全球布局，將來執行的時候還是要經過政府的程序，但是他可以宣布將來還是按照程序來進行，這樣哪裡有錯呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[190].quality |
0.961 |
| transcript.gazette[191].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[191].start |
2026-02-24T11:47:15.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[191].end |
2026-02-24T11:47:17.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[191].text |
我們要尊重企業的自主權…… |
| transcript.gazette[191].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[192].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[192].start |
2026-02-24T11:47:17.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[192].end |
2026-02-24T11:47:35.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[192].text |
我要忠告卓榮泰院長，如果行政院不願意提出來，我們會很負責任的為臺灣、為中華民國、為所有國家的科技安全產業，我們會提出版本，也希望行政院能夠提出相對的版本…… |
| transcript.gazette[192].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[193].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[193].start |
2026-02-24T11:47:35.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[193].end |
2026-02-24T11:47:40.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[193].text |
我歡迎委員提出一個不違憲、不違法、可執行的，行政院願意跟你討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[193].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[194].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[194].start |
2026-02-24T11:47:40.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[194].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:10.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[194].text |
請教一下，簽的MOU裡面，對美採購及投資848億美金，本席已經請教過一次，可不可以由美國方當臺灣……誠如剛剛卓院長還有一再跳針的經濟部長所說，產業自己決定去美國投資，請問政府有沒有好好保護他們？ |
| transcript.gazette[194].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[195].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[195].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:10.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[195].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:12.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[195].text |
有沒有好好輔導他們？ |
| transcript.gazette[195].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[196].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[196].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:12.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[196].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:19.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[196].text |
能夠跟美國談判，把腰桿挺直，由美國負責提供相關的貸款，可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[196].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[197].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[197].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:21.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[197].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:21.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[197].text |
可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[197].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[198].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[198].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:21.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[198].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:22.917000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[198].text |
相關的什麼？貸款。 |
| transcript.gazette[198].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[199].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[199].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:25.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[199].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:33.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[199].text |
如果是採購的話，本來就有相關的……如果是國營事業，他本來就有編預算在執行的，或是他們年度的預算…… |
| transcript.gazette[199].quality |
0.881 |
| transcript.gazette[200].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[200].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:33.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[200].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:34.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[200].text |
那投資呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[200].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[201].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[201].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:35.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[201].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:36.988000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[201].text |
你們剛剛不是講了產業自主投資啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[201].quality |
1 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[202].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:37.969000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[202].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:38.930000+08:00 |
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投資的部分…… |
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0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[203].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[203].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:38.930000+08:00 |
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2026-02-24T11:48:45.773000+08:00 |
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這麼重大的事項，我們要不要請美國……行政院談了半天，不知道這件事情。 |
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0.655 |
| transcript.gazette[204].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[204].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:46.334000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[204].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:50.076000+08:00 |
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報告委員，如果企業方他們要投資可以用自有的資金，也可以用貸款，那貸款…… |
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0.71 |
| transcript.gazette[205].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[205].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:51.057000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[205].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:52.778000+08:00 |
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那政府在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[205].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[206].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[206].start |
2026-02-24T11:48:52.778000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[206].end |
2026-02-24T11:48:59.082000+08:00 |
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他要跟臺灣貸款，我們會用國家保證，他要跟美國銀行貸款，我們也會協助。 |
| transcript.gazette[206].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[207].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[207].start |
2026-02-24T11:49:00.382000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[207].end |
2026-02-24T11:49:10.689000+08:00 |
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所以你就講嘛，你們會跟美國談好對企業貸款的美方銀行的協助嘛，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[207].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[208].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[208].start |
2026-02-24T11:49:10.689000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[208].end |
2026-02-24T11:49:10.709000+08:00 |
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我們會……好，可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[208].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[209].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[209].start |
2026-02-24T11:49:10.709000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[209].end |
2026-02-24T11:49:10.709000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[210].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[210].start |
2026-02-24T11:49:13.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[210].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[210].end |
2026-02-24T11:49:40.603000+08:00 |
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再過來，對美投資是盈是虧，這關係到臺灣整體的經濟實力跟發展，有沒有可能，尤其政府對美如果有投資的部分或者產業對美投資的部分，是不是可以請美國政府輔導？ |
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0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[211].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[211].start |
2026-02-24T11:49:42.838000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[211].end |
2026-02-24T11:49:57.561000+08:00 |
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讓美國這些重大的金融機構來IPO這些相關產業，包括要去阿拉斯加埋管、投資，可不可以由他們IPO公司債？ |
| transcript.gazette[211].quality |
0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[212].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[212].start |
2026-02-24T11:49:59.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[212].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[212].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:03.843000+08:00 |
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確保臺灣投資的母金，也確保有保證的獲利，可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[212].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[213].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[213].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:03.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[213].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:16.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[213].text |
保護臺灣的產業到外面投資，能夠確保他們的利益，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[213].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[214].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[214].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:16.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[214].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[214].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:20.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[214].text |
報告委員，企業界在投資會做詳細的投資報告或投資評估，當然…… |
| transcript.gazette[214].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[215].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[215].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:24.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[215].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[215].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:29.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[215].text |
本席請教你的是政府在哪裡。 |
| transcript.gazette[215].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[216].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[216].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:29.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[216].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:30.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[216].text |
我們一定會支持…… |
| transcript.gazette[216].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[217].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[217].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:29.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[217].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[217].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:32.129000+08:00 |
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因為你們跟人家簽了一個總額。 |
| transcript.gazette[217].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[218].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[218].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:34.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[218].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[218].end |
2026-02-24T11:50:38.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[218].text |
報告委員，他如果決定要啟動投資的話，政府一定會協助他，把他的投資計畫…… |
| transcript.gazette[218].quality |
0.645 |
| transcript.gazette[219].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[219].start |
2026-02-24T11:50:40.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[219].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[219].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:03.144000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[219].text |
本席已經第二次在院會質詢，請美國金融機構除了提供貸款外，最好還要用IPO公司債的形式，確保臺灣本金不會流失；第二個，確定每一年的利益保障，本席希望你們能做到。 |
| transcript.gazette[219].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[220].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[220].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:04.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[220].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[220].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:13.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[220].text |
再過來，請問一下，這次對美的談判還有沒有什麼東西是國會不知道的？ |
| transcript.gazette[220].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[221].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[221].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:15.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[221].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[221].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:18.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[221].text |
還有多少暗盤？ |
| transcript.gazette[221].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[222].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[222].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:20.850000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[222].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[222].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:22.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[222].text |
大家所不知道的情況有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[222].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[223].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[223].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:24.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[223].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:44.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[223].text |
基於國際談判慣例，在適當時間我們會向國人跟國會說明報告，最終還要送到國會審議，所以委員不必擔心，一切都攤在陽光之下，我們秉持的當然是國家跟產業最大的利益，這個部分也是委員一開始在這裡獨白的那一段，我們都做到了。 |
| transcript.gazette[223].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[224].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[224].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:46.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[224].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[224].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:49.320000+08:00 |
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我們來看一下，剛剛說台積電要去美國還沒有提出，你們也不知道這個事，我們來看一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[224].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[225].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[225].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:49.560000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[225].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[225].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:49.760000+08:00 |
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關於台積電，產業自主的投資，為什麼委員一直…… |
| transcript.gazette[225].quality |
0.368 |
| transcript.gazette[226].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[226].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:49.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[226].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:50.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[226].text |
我們來看一下有沒有暗盤，注意看一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[226].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[227].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[227].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:50.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[227].end |
2026-02-24T11:51:56.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[227].text |
（播放影片） |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[228].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[228].start |
2026-02-24T11:51:56.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[228].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[228].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:01.838000+08:00 |
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把台積電帶到美國，5,000億美金，down payment喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[228].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[229].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[229].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:01.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[229].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[229].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:07.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[229].text |
是首期喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[229].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[230].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[230].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:07.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[230].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[230].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:13.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[230].text |
請問一下，首期是什麼意義？ |
| transcript.gazette[230].quality |
0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[231].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[231].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:13.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[231].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[231].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:14.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[231].text |
我們只用…… |
| transcript.gazette[231].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[232].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[232].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:14.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[232].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[232].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:15.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[232].text |
還有其他的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[232].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[233].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[233].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:15.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[233].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:21.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[233].text |
雙方談定的文本內容來當作雙邊未來必須執行的內容。 |
| transcript.gazette[233].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[234].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[234].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:21.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[234].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:22.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[234].text |
所以首期以外還有什麼呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[234].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[235].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[235].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:22.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[235].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:23.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[235].text |
沒有，我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[235].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[236].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[236].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:22.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[236].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[236].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:28.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[236].text |
台積電的投資計畫是台積電說了算，它有董事會還有股東會，他有職權。 |
| transcript.gazette[236].quality |
0.69 |
| transcript.gazette[237].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[237].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:28.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[237].end |
2026-02-24T11:52:43.191000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[237].text |
最後，昨天您說核電要重啟，本席很樂意，你們看看美國現在要重新，不只增加核電，要增加多少倍的核電你看清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[237].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[238].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[238].start |
2026-02-24T11:52:43.191000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[238].end |
2026-02-24T11:53:04.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[238].text |
（播放影片） |
| transcript.gazette[238].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[239].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[239].start |
2026-02-24T11:53:04.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[239].end |
2026-02-24T11:53:15.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[239].text |
美國現在要讓美國的核電成長4倍，民進黨的神主牌影響了臺灣多少的發展？ |
| transcript.gazette[239].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[240].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[240].start |
2026-02-24T11:53:15.917000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[240].end |
2026-02-24T11:53:25.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[240].text |
看一看美國，核電要成長4倍，因應AI、IT產業大量用電的需求才有國家競爭力。 |
| transcript.gazette[240].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[241].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[241].start |
2026-02-24T11:53:25.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[241].end |
2026-02-24T11:53:31.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[241].text |
最後看一下什麼叫黑箱的談判，我們看一下過去什麼叫黑箱。 |
| transcript.gazette[241].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[242].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[242].start |
2026-02-24T11:53:31.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[242].end |
2026-02-24T11:53:58.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[242].text |
（播放影片） |
| transcript.gazette[242].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[243].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[243].start |
2026-02-24T11:53:58.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[243].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[243].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:08.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[243].text |
必要守住的地方，鄭副院長、楊珍妮政委領軍的談判團隊都已經幫我們守住了，該開放的地方，我們也有產業的支持，讓產業的衝擊降到最小。 |
| transcript.gazette[243].quality |
0.772 |
| transcript.gazette[244].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[244].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:08.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[244].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[244].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:19.333333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[244].text |
（播放影片） |
| transcript.gazette[244].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[245].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[245].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:19.333333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[245].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[245].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:29.846667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[245].text |
謝謝鄭麗君副院長過去的忠告，希望卓院長…… |
| transcript.gazette[245].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[246].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[246].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:29.846667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[246].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[246].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:40.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[246].text |
你也看看鄭副院長過去的談話，能不能為國家守住產業、守住國家經濟，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[246].quality |
0.182 |
| transcript.gazette[247].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[247].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:40.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[247].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[247].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:41.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[247].text |
好，謝謝，時間已到。 |
| transcript.gazette[247].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[248].speaker |
傅委員崐萁 |
| transcript.gazette[248].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:41.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[248].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[248].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:42.061000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[248].text |
疊加的15%趕快解決。 |
| transcript.gazette[248].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[249].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[249].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:41.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[249].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[249].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:45.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[249].text |
謝謝傅崐萁委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長、相關部會首長的備詢，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[249].quality |
0.577 |
| transcript.gazette[250].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[250].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:46.127000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-02-24T11:54:49.555571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[250].text |
提醒一下，我們現在還在過年。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[251].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-02-24T11:54:49.855571+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-02-24T11:54:56.141286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[251].text |
報告院會，休息10分鐘，休息之後繼續進行質詢，現在休息。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[252].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-02-24T11:54:56.441286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[252].guessed |
1 |
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2026-02-24T11:54:57.584143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[252].text |
休息（11時54分） |
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0 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[253].start |
2026-02-24T11:54:57.884143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[253].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[253].end |
2026-02-24T11:54:59.598429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[253].text |
繼續開會（12時5分） |
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0 |