| IVOD_ID |
166326 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166326 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-10T12:11:38+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-10T12:18:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a128e1119a2c25c012693b3ab010fbd49ecb9f93c172c5514f1120d908022d4d10497944ed0372c35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:11:38 - 12:18:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「財政收支劃分法」7案：（僅詢答）
(一) 本院委員郭國文等17人、委員賴瑞隆等19人、委員賴瑞隆等17人分別擬具「財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案」等3案。
(二) 本院委員陳玉珍等19人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱議瑩等26人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一及第三十條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員陳玉珍等24人擬具「財政收支劃分法第三十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例」2案：（僅詢答）
(一)本院委員郭國文等18人擬具「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例第四條條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員李坤城等18人擬具「國家金融安定基金設置及管理條例第四條及第五條條文修正草案」案。
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財政部部長還有我們副組記長請莊部長成副組記長委員好辛苦了我們今天談財政說之花輪法原因就是出在 |
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本来是没有问题的,却是因为没有依法行政就造成了问题。中央对直辖市及县市政府补助办法实施很多年了,过去都没有问题,因为没有依法行政就出了问题。这个是依财政收支花轮法30条,还有地方制度法69条所定定的。 |
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這裡面都寫得都很清楚跟警政消防 加勤加班費還有國民年金法 農民健康保險條例老年農民福利津貼暫行條例及中低收入戶老人生活津貼發起辦法很多的法規也都明定這個地方政府要支出的部分可以在一般性補助款裡面來支應所以才會編列一般性補助款 |
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这个相关的这些条文都很明确第三条第一项也都写一般性补助款教育社会福利及基本设施等补助经费更明确的根据这些条文之后行政院主级总处将114年度中央政府总预算案编列依法例一物之初的明细表依法例一物之初 |
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哪些經費多少錢總共多少經費都寫得很清楚2,501億但是呢審完預算之後也拖了好幾個月突然想到行政院突然想到我們先看這個 |
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總統令因為立法院修了這個財政收支發生法包含了第三十條條文院長 卓榮泰院長也附屬了所以公布施行就生效了就是這個三十條做了這樣的一個修正這個行政院竟然在五月十六號突然想到前面都沒有想到突然想到我們應該砍地方政府補助款 |
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就造成这样的一个非常非常莫名其妙的所以我们尤其是组织总处都是公务人员部长也是公务人员出身都当了几十年的公务人员我自己过去也是三十年公务人员真的是一个 |
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變成一個不依法行政的中央接下來好多警察人員能施條例公佈修正公佈啦也不編預算軍人待遇條例也公佈施行啦也不編預算這個國家怎麼會弄到這樣所以我們尤其是主計總署這個 |
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就是要去把關是 剛委員報告就是補助辦法就是它是配合財化法它是一個配套的機制所以剛剛委員所剛開始簡報所提的那個辦法它就是舊的財化法所配套的補助辦法那因為今年3月21號總統公佈了新的財化法所以我們依照 |
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第30條授權定的補助辦法所以我們去配套去修了我們的補助辦法所以基本上我們就依法行政完全錯誤這個法律的修正並沒有要你去修這個一般性補助款何況卓院長這個114年5月16號函 |
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再修正 就是再大砍本来你已经列为法律义务支出你跟立法院说这个是法律义务支出然后砍这个就是没有依法行政所以这个部分我们现在怎么样去把这些问题尤其是115年度的预算 |
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委員我真的要你先看你先幫我仔細看這個115年度的更離譜委員我們真的是為了調計營需而修補助辦法我會讓你回答115年度的一般性補助款你先砍了大幅度把一般性補助款1764億2000多萬把它列為什麼要計劃型 |
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然後砍了之後計劃型的然後把這些砍的又編給各部會又分配給各部會又增加了這些所以這個時間的關係這個我最主要就是說法律當然我們今天這個召委排了這個財化法的修正 |
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我們希望能夠大家及時管理但是我們就擔心修法了之後又不執行現在這個國家已經面臨這個問題了所以這個不用回應了委員真的報告就是我們統籌分配稅有增加以後造成縣市之間的不均衡我們修補住辦法是要讓縣市去平衡它的差異 |
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我沒有去提你修正的辦法那我們怎麼樣再能夠更符合相關的這些法制以及預算的編列所以我也在今天的財政收支化合法第30條的修正裡面能夠把它該放入該納入的 |
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接下來我們請楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員不在場下一位徐欣盈委員徐欣盈委員 |