| IVOD_ID |
165794 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165794 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-24T12:08:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-24T12:14:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f813cb5f76f78103bb658a395ffde479408e1b0d34147d14d262ea90fa57e99450b48a977d456e315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:08:32 - 12:14:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
邀請環境部部長就「聯合國第30屆氣候峰會之後台灣氣候治理方向與如何提升台灣『氣候變遷績效指標』名次，落實2050淨零排放路徑策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【業務報告及專題報告綜合詢答】） |
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你看這個影片喔這是兩個小時以前大概10點鐘的時候現場的影片台南市那當時颱風來的時候 |
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這已經燒了幾天了那剛剛你們署長說全部控制住了早上在台南市議會消防局長說還要三天那你認為我們是應該再犧牲三天的空污還是現在把它撲滅那為什麼說要不要撲滅呢因為撲滅以後啊燃燒不完全還要再一次清運 |
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早上市政府給議員的答覆是說原本估計的清運費用大概3到5億那現在把它燒光就省下了3到5億了你的看法如何不可能 這個是不可以用燒的這個是違反空污法的 不可以的你知道這裡面有混雜一些當時因為颱風 迫不得已也有一些石棉瓦有一些阿魯米有一些塑膠天花板 |
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還有營建廢棄物加上一些木頭廢棄就是樹木倒塌的全部都堆置在這裡那以你的角度中央的角度如何來看待這 我跟你講這是任何一個縣市都可能包括花蓮堆置的都有可能會發生喔 |
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台南市是說他們有請保全喔在現場顧啦而且這個里長就之前一個多月前就已經有燒過 阿沒穩起來所以大家在懷疑是不是表堅要燒的你的看法如何 包委員不會啦這個燒東西這個影響到這個空污是不允許的絕對不可能是政府故意燒的那你認為現在就是只測到剩下消防隊只剩下一組 |
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繼續穩他說這個深層很深層繼續穩大概還要穩三天委員不要因為你剛才說的我有去這個場看過他們環保局有分例如說實棉區然後這個營建的區然後樹木區都有分一重一重的 |
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那我所了解的是燒的這塊是樹木因為台南的這個樹所以樹木可以燒不可以燒啊也不可以燒這個我相信可能是那你認為要不要建議台南市現在即刻把它撲滅那剩下該清運的還是清運該進紅化爐還是進紅化爐有沒有這種建議這個目前我們有編訂這個特別條例的預算裡面他們大概有 |
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3到5億左右 就是處理這一塊我知道嘛 所以現在3到5億省下來了嘛不可能省下來了 不可能燒成灰也要處理啊燒成灰那量就沒那麼多嘛不可能 這個還是要去處理好 那你建議是讓它繼續完全燃燒不可以 這個會影響到因為最近的這個天氣沒有下雨那是不是部長要做個建議啦 |
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因為剛剛也台南市議會也剛執行結束嘛這是現場的影片這就是兩個小時以前的影片你如何建議 |
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報告委員那個台南為了撲滅這個火已經協調自來水公司裝設臨時的消防水有啦但是現在效率變比較高那我們正式建議他要把它撲滅正式建議對對對好所以是現在現在正式建議我從開始我們就是態度就是應該儘速把它撲滅 |
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所以市政府是不聽你的建議這很認真 因為這個量實在是十幾萬噸我知道十幾萬噸 那可以撲滅不撲滅的話因為為什麼鄉親會這樣質疑因為不是第一次 |
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那在這邊大家有提出警告好大家都很認真現在的現況就是這樣現在的現況就是這樣所以部長還是建議即刻撲滅剩下我們再來善後處理你的補助款不會減少 |
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不會吧不會看因為已經燒掉百分之六十了所以扣掉百分之六十的補助款後面還是有灰還有各種 不會不會全額還是按照原本的三到五億補助款是不是我們還是依照那個實際花包的數額所以就不是這個三到五億就是以到時候清運的實際金額這個對不會影響到台南的財政等等之類的 |
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這個跟財政無所謂 我們要的是一個態度那環境部現在正式建議台南市政府應該要即刻強力的把這個火源撲滅 是不是是好 謝謝好 謝謝謝委員 謝謝部長 |