| IVOD_ID |
165601 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165601 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-20,15,19,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[3] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[4] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-19T11:12:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-19T11:17:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9c5448532e3833d1a3f8c97551b044397119a7747a4c5c6c45c75d439e1a44ec74376f4625cb93f75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:12:28 - 11:17:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政、內政、經濟、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「中央政府花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後重建特別預算案」。
【預算提案截止時間：11月18日（二）下午3時】
【11月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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要請我們主席長好 請陳主席長財政部長在嗎財政部 雙部長委員好主席長好主席長 這樣請教喔那現在財法法第二次又再修了我想一修二修啦越修越惡劣啦 |
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那現在我們本會期就也開始即將進入預算的審查那包括中央和地方的預算都在審議當中因為地方議會現在也在審查地方政府的預算那這次的財務法修正案就要求明年度的總預算有很大一個改變 |
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那請問總預算要重編嗎 可不可能重編會不會重編我們是沒有能力的 因為它超過公債法所以我們這個部分影響是真的很大那重編是有它的困難在所以這個部分我也要跟好 那如果沒有辦法重編那怎麼辦 |
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這就出現第一個問題因為這個部分我們預計禮拜四會提出財化法整個一個新的一個修正提到立法院裡面來那希望能夠通過這個立法院立法院能夠通過這個新的財化法讓我們整個一個整個縣市財政的一個分配更均勻然後整個一個支出就可以做重新做調整 |
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就是要通過院版的這個裁判法才可以解決目前的這樣的一個僵局嘛你的意思是這樣子嘛因為現在的在野黨再修了第二次的裁判法那你變成他要求中央給地方的補助都不能再減少嘛那你之前就已經跟中央搶了4100多億啊 |
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4165億那這次又要求你給地方的原本的補助5450幾億不能減少他會增加2646億那所以造成你就必須要再舉債嗎因為我們現在舉債已經2992億然後再加上2646億就會舉債達到5638億那就會超過公債法的一個上限 |
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公債法比例是15%嘛你這樣一舉債要回到17%左右是不是這樣子是不是這樣子那你就違反了公債法那現在怎麼辦第一個啊立法院啊應該是要監督行政院要依法行政 |
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這個立法院 結果訂一個法在逼行政院要違法施政這個實在是非常矛盾啦那也造成現在的總計算一個僵局啦好 那 那如果要逼行政院來執行這樣的一個重修過 再修過的財化法那行政院怎麼辦 |
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所以這個部分我們應該我們是沒有辦法再重編啦第一個沒辦法重編嘛第二個行政院也不能違反公債法的舉債上限所以這兩點就造成目前的總計算的一個僵局嘛是不是這樣所以我們還是要循憲政的救濟程序來救濟啦 |
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這個 讓大家聽清楚啦 這個就是目前啦所謂總預算的一個僵局啦因為如果你破壞了公債法 超過那個局勢在上限啦你就違反了財政穩健原則嘛 傷害了國家的財政嘛而且那種行政院 那個立法院就逼行政院要違法的 |
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再來像這一次的今年台灣其實不大平靜台南的南部的丹納斯颱風風災特別預算行政院編了600億那今天我們討論的馬太安溪的映射府還有鳳凰颱風的風災前編了300億特別預算防治非洲豬瘟政府也趕快編了緊急預算來應付 |
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未來的TO議場恐怕會變成常態像這樣子的話我們可以發現其實都需要中央出手來協助地方解決尤其是在財政方面未來如果依照新的修正的財務法來實施 |
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那中央的現在財政被逼緊了被拉到脖子了那以後是不是可能啊如果來應付這樣緊急狀況會不會造成這個你行政院的財政邊路上你沒有辦法來應付 |
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是 因为像那个马太安 燕赛湖的部分我们事先资源就要27亿然后非洲珠温资源也要30几亿然后我们又要编列4年1000亿的一个治水的一个预算然后包括相关劳健保的一个拨补这对我们都造成很大的一个困难所以将来的预算筹备是没办法 是非常困难的 |
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好 謝謝主席長因為時間的關係 抱歉跟部長抱歉 這個沒有時間我再輸命給我們財政部好 謝謝主席長 謝謝部長謝謝主席 |