| IVOD_ID |
165192 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165192 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-07T16:18:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-07T16:31:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7b2debd084f055f0f52db03ab255dcddda8d1794993bca4437c4dc073b7ad87311b1cec9fb31ec975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴惠員 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:18:24 - 16:31:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議（事由：一、同意權之行使事項：本院交通、教育及文化兩委員會報告審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。（11月7日上午報告事項後）二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。（11月7日下午及11日）三、11月7日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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代會委員請質詢謝謝主席有請那個院長還有農業部部長再請卓院長農業部長備詢代委員好是 院長 |
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縣長 非常感謝10月28日宣布在丹納斯颱風所有的災民加碼兩萬塊的一個決定這個對台南鄉親來講是及時宜比這個一萬塊 |
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那個就是普發現金的一萬塊對我們來講更有效可是在這裡要跟院長做一個探討就是說在台南市造冊的這些災民那我們造冊的大概有46801那這個煤河就是屋頂 |
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已經透過我們中央的一個協助修繕完成了大概已經有1022那剩下的這些鄉親他可能存在的一些年紀比較大的他不會上網的 |
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還有就是說在修繕的這段時間他非常的一個忙碌所以他沒有辦法去區公所登記的這些人有沒有機會就是說可以協助這個讓他們這個兩萬塊讓他們是在這個造冊的名單裡面謝謝文官心這個方式的對象 |
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是對於那些自行修繕者他如果當時已經經過政府跟他們的媒合有幫他修繕了或者是經過這些社會的一些公益團體有去任養的或是像政府已經全額幫他完成修繕了這個要先排除在外因為我們已經進到了幫他總整家園那其他自己修繕了也許他已經修繕也許他沒有修繕我們認為在這個時候也因為 |
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社會各界的善款我們累積起來怎麼去處理還有應該把它盡快的把它善款發放所以我們有這樣的2萬塊對這些自行修善的受災的居民再給他多一點點的重整家園的補助 |
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所以院長我現在講說撇除這些人以外就是說還有其實還存在的一些就是災民這些人有沒有機會就是說他重新再到區公所登記然後我們也是補他兩萬塊呢 |
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剛剛講的那一段是因為他已經有登記在案所以我們就直接入他的帳那其他的部分到底是什麼樣態地方政府應該有一個整理到底是什麼樣態當初如果是面積比較小的地方政府也補了一部分後來我們也加了那還有些什麼樣但是當初沒有登記的這個我沒有辦法在這裡做了解委員可以提供我們可以進一步去了解跟地方政府來做整理 |
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那我把這個資料給院長那就是說我們希望就是說這一個補助這個補助就是我們希望不是說有人領到而已我們是希望所有受災的人都可以領到這個另外的這個兩萬塊那事後我把這個資料 |
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那個再給院長再來就是說也謝謝跟部長跟那個部長感謝這個在這一次的揮州豬瘟那個事實上就是說在整個重塑重塑這個15天的一個封堵那事實上今天已經開始了就是這個屠宰那也恢復了這個拍賣那顯然今天的價錢看起來部長好像還不錯你有把它撐住了 |
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我剛剛還第一次看到委員最近以來的第一次面帶一點微笑面帶一點輕鬆的微笑我剛剛還謝謝部長的辛苦事實上我們也非常非常的害怕我跟委員報告就是到了4點半左右的時候現在整個租價最高到112然後有單資的到118、120那不要講那大概平均大概將近101左右 |
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在雲林它到了112可是在我們台南其實才90幾塊95、96可是普通現在最大的一個困難要跟你們探討的就是說你補助已經上來了顯然一隻豬它其實成本要7千塊這7千塊的時候你一隻補助 |
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一個是300塊810塊一個810塊有吃飯跟吃飼料這個是有一個差異性是好這個補助遠遠是不足的那你看我要跟委員報告我們是補助他這個15天的他不能他自留在豬場不能上市的這15天的一個飼料的一個費用當然你看嘛他一個他吃了一斤的飼料要18塊嘛所以你一隻豬每天就要多吃了500塊錢 |
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沒有啦 沒有那麼多啦沒有 我們會後再來討論我們會後再來討論一隻雞 現在養豬報告一隻雞都養了84公斤 85公斤好 這15天我們現在要來探討的就是說 |
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輔助這另外一個議題我們再討論那當然大家共體時間那問題就是說這個我們看到了農業部徐牧師提出來的一個資料就是從今天開始到明年的三月你每天要給台兩千隻三千 你要去化這39萬頭豬 |
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有沒有想到這些問題所以說這是豬肉比較擔心的我們現在滯留總共39萬隻35到39萬隻那我們現在正在統計我如果在非常短的時間是進不到市場的那進到市場的時候因為第一個屠宰量的問題每天的屠宰量我們必須考慮第二個每天的批發拍賣量我們要考慮 |
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第三個部分就是說當量太多的時候那個價格是撐不住的所以我們現在就是有一個有次序的一個把毛豬上市經過登記的方式你已經講到了這個問題萬一豬價崩盤的話如果你用這樣的一個消化方式的話其實是我們是擔心的 |
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你要殺豬 有這個豬 這個是冷凍豬的話有沒有地方放 當然是有地方放你不管是台塘還是各大的一個畜牧冷凍場我跟委員報告 就是說我們有一部分的豬是直接拉到屠宰場不經過批發的那過去是15% 我們會做一個調整 |
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我們要維持批發價的部分如果價格低到某個程度的時候我們會請冷凍這些廠商進來拉租所以我們會去撐住一些基本的價格你會出來復盤你今天有沒有復盤我們現在沒辦法說這個 |
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沒有 你一定要給我們一個底線大概在哪裡嗎就像說你會告訴我說我維持在90塊還是95塊左右還是95塊以下你總是要讓大家有一個心理準備我現在沒辦法講這個因為我們在做價格的監控的部分你現在沒有辦法講私底下可以不可以讓我知道也沒辦法 |
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也沒辦法那這樣子的話我們全部的一個計畫都是在沒有辦法掌控當中那萬一我們的租價崩盤的話怎麼辦呢這是憑國企方法我跟你們報告我跟你們報告我們每一天全國的國內有20個20個肉品市場 |
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那個拍賣價我們一直在監控那如果說有適當的相關的這些不正常的下跌的時候你要想想到39萬頭豬他這個你不殺他的話他會越吃越大這大隻的有兩種介紹 |
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就是載豬的話是不值錢未來幾個月他都有依靠標準的去化量現在就是在跟你探討這個去化量其實是被養豬協會存疑的我們擔心的 |
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院長我是收藝師所以我對這一個領域裡頭我多多少少有一些了解所以我擔心這39萬頭豬你用5個月來去化的話我跟你講這個市場會亂掉我跟委員報告我們這樣一個操作的方式是跟所有的養豬協會這邊來討論然後我們也跟冷凍工會來討論我們也跟肉品市場來討論每個禮拜都有一個供銷的調度會議 |
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所以會隨時調整嗎對 這個一定是滾動調整的我想這個滾動的調整可是我還是希望就是說這個租價可以維持在110 120因為你租期越大你不知道要怎麼樣你知道嗎這個是一個很嚴重的問題 |
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在這一次的災情我們看到另外一個問題就是說以我們台南來講的話我有60萬頭豬可是顯然就是說這種豬舍過於老舊開放式的豬舍太多了比例太多了所以就是說在這裡要跟院長跟部長拜託是不是有辦法啟動就是2021年開始你們有提出了一個 |
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計畫47億的一個水聯市互壓水聯市的這個計畫有辦法這個其實是做得很好了是不是再重新啟動我們也持續一直在輔導我們的養豬社去改進水聯市的這個部分 |
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那這個我想我們的計畫在未來幾年我們都會持續趁著這個重大的一個這個非洲豬瘟其實非洲豬瘟如果不是廚藝的養豬的話其實很難會去發生非洲豬瘟我想這個部長你來行你很了解那我們是不是要趁著這一個時候就是說我們把這一個廚藝的養豬做一個什麼樣的一個精進 |
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我跟你們報告 廚餘養豬的部分我們有短中長期的規劃短期之內要恢復的時候我們有一些前提包括這些監控的設備一定要及時而不是用上傳照片的中長期的部分我們就會考慮整體國內的這些廚餘怎麼樣再利用達到一個環境也比較穩定的情況所以短中長期我想我們隨時再滾動跟環境部再一起檢查 |
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好 院長 我想再一次就是說從這一次回收豬瘟到底這個豬瘟的病毒它是從哪邊來是境外的一個感染還是包裹還是移工現在我們顯然你們沒有給我們答案這個是我們一直迫切需要答案的那我也希望就是說 |
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可以因為台中是每一天每一天他給的給的這個記者會那還是說他所有的一個新聞稿我們看不到這一個答案所以我想在這裡也提醒部長還有就是在未來未來就是說第二次萬一有破口的話第二次我們怎麼樣去就是維持處理這個也是大家擔心的這次這個案例場跟關聯場的關係連結起來我們清楚的看到 |
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問題出在這個處於該徵組未徵組該查核未查核 該監控未查核所以一定要短期間內如果要有條件的恢復的話 |
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這個設備監控跟法規加嚴處罰這一定要完備再來我們現在內部就這個案例場已經控制在單一的案例場上面但是我們還要加強的是不會再有從邊境進來的所以明天我們會去看邊境的管理我希望從內而外把它再做安全的檢查一次只有更趨嚴絕對不會放鬆 |
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院長 我想這個整個養豬產業是關係到就是全台灣這個周邊的一個產業的兩千多億如果你還要讓廚藝這八趴的廚藝繼續就是說讓它變成是一個養豬的養豬每天達到三個條件而且地方政府要努力它才能夠維持但這幾天的豬的去化它會變成一個環境部很大的課程不會共同 |
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谢谢赖会员委员的咨询谢谢卓院长 农业部长 贝勋谢谢卓院会我们本日排定咨询的委员均已经咨询询答完毕非常谢谢卓院长及相关部会首长列席来答询也谢谢王洪威委员王振旭委员沈伯扬委员一起参与我们今天的咨询11月11号星期二上午9点我们继续开会进行经济组织咨询现在休息好 谢谢卓院长 |