| IVOD_ID |
165191 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165191 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-07T16:05:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-07T16:18:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7b2debd084f055f0d9b491b59ff0e8b9da8d1794993bca4437c4dc073b7ad87311b1cec9fb31ec975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃建賓 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:05:08 - 16:18:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議（事由：一、同意權之行使事項：本院交通、教育及文化兩委員會報告審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。（11月7日上午報告事項後）二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。（11月7日下午及11日）三、11月7日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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請黃建斌委員請咨詢謝謝主席我們有請行政院卓院長跟經濟部鞏部長麻煩再請行政院卓院長經濟部長備詢 |
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黃委員好 院長好 部長好本席首先要針對這個風電的議題表達對中央的肯定在本席跟我們阪風電自救會共同的要求下我們中央終於願意發出公文明確的表示不贊成台東陸域風電的開發案守護我們美麗的海岸線那這也代表台東的心聲終於被中央聽見那接下來議題也希望中央能夠繼續聆聽地方的聲音 |
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那這幾年極端氣候的影響之下我們台東位於這個海景第一排每一次颱風來就是首當其衝那造成的這個農損損失非常的巨大像我們資料這邊看到的這兩年颱風造成台東的這個農損金額就高達12億 |
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那再加上災後復原重建的經費這個對於財力及次第五級的台東縣來說絕對是龐大的負擔這需要中央跟北京來合作來解決我們北省的問題那接下來我想要請院長部長看一段影片 |
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路面滿是溪水已經看不到原本的道路這是位在泰馬里山金輪溪盤的部落聯絡道路由於連日降雨造成泰馬里山金輪溪暴漲溪水從堤防攻城 |
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這個是0728豪雨期間泰瑪麗鄉金輪溪那個溪水暴漲的這個潰堤的畫面那先前在本席的強力者爭取下成功讓丹利斯颱風以及728豪雨災後重建特別條例把台東縣也納入這個條文說明裡面確保我們台東不會被遺忘 |
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在這邊我也要感謝經濟部這兩年跟本縣跟台南管政府持續的爭取下成功爭取到中央核定10億的傾訴還有災後復建的經費包括去年山頭河颱風河川淤積的緊急輸進工程還有今年丹麗寺颱風以及0728豪雨的災後重建經費 |
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想請院長簡單的回應這部分是不是可以督促我們經濟部還有相關單位如時如期的來執行全力的協助地方災後復原及重建請院長回應如果他已經是在特別預算特別的範圍當中我們當然希望盡快的速度能夠讓地方 |
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得到在災區的民眾能夠恢復正常包括耕作包括生活尤其是農作的部分謝謝院長現在還有一個影響台東鄉親的一個很大的問題就是我們台東的鳳梅沙每年大概秋冬強勁的東北季風都會刮起沙塵影響我們居民的生活品質還有行車的安全台東縣從我們前縣長黃建勤時期就跟水利署來共同合作用水覆蓋的工法有效的改善鳳梅沙的問題 |
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那水利署跟台東縣政府這每年也都有進行改善工程但是因為這幾年齁連續的颱風跟豪大雨也造成相關的設施都被重回那紅白沙都再次出現那很多地方像縱谷地區台東市都民眾都在抱怨齁所以這邊我要請院長跟部長再看這個影片 |
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一波波風沙席捲而來將整片北南溪河闖染的灰蒙蒙大量細沙隨風飄散往鄰近部落跟社區吹去受到東北季風增強 |
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很像在拍電影 拍電影黃沙滾滾 居民苦不堪言我們若是吃飯挑沙 連穿開都有沙這個如果對呼吸道比較脆弱的年長者或是小孩影響更大所以曾本席要求經濟部必須在十二月中以前完成抑制風飛沙的改善工程以確保接下來我們東北季風風飛沙對台東居民的影響能夠降到最低 |
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如果說地方有經費需要追加的需求也務必全力來協助 請部長回去是不是可以立即來交辦來處理 請部長回應可以 可以 我們立即來交辦感謝 感謝部長 那真的很辛苦 |
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還有雲林可能也會有我們會一併來趕快處理謝謝部長接下來我們再討論有關於電感地下化的議題本席要跟卓院長來請教今年8月我們院長到台東勘栽的時候有提到丹利寺颱風造成全國100多萬戶停電0728的豪雨也造成5萬多戶的停電楊柳颱風也造成30多萬戶停電 |
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政府必須要解決颱風造成停電的問題電纜地下化就是關鍵吧這個不但可以減輕許多災後復原還有減輕我們重建的負擔院長當天也有提到說會要求經濟部跟台電啟動全國電纜地下化的評估像是台東就是優先的地區之一我想要請教院長目前評估的工作如何請院長回答 |
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台電已經啟動這樣的一個全國性的分析針對包括地層下限易淹水地區或是地質脆弱地區排除在外之外對那個迎風面特別強的幾個我是記得有幾個路線他們已經展開第一期的這個設計跟籌劃的工作是不是請部長能夠再說明是 因為我們這一次的特別預算大概有編了80億來做這樣的事情 |
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當然81要實施到全台灣當然是不夠的我們後續會陸續來編針對81的部分我們就像剛才院長提到的我們針對一些比較合適的而且急迫性的區域我們就優先來實施先這樣來做一些處理 |
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這個非常重要 是不是兩個禮拜內可以提供本席份可以啦 兩個禮拜提供本席份台東這個區域電暖地下化的這個規劃跟報告我們這個選擇出來會跟地方政府或是跟委員討論一下那個地方是不是優先來實施感謝博定 感謝那再來我們再討論這個有關於水菌改善的問題這個邀請農業部部長 |
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那個剛剛我們有提到關於災後重建的這個預算包括核酸的傾輸還有水利設施的費用還有一個重點就是農水路的灌溉到現在還沒有解決每年只要豪大雨台中幾個重要的幾個水郡像是關山池上鹿野跟北南的土地他就可能因為被豪雨沖沖回沒有辦法飲水影響農業的灌溉今天的丹利寺颱風跟0728豪雨又再次發生同樣的問題 |
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造成台東縣這次二期稻作的茶養時間整個往後延嚴重影響稻農的生計保證很多農民都在懷念像這種事情 |
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就是因為我們現在的感覺就是用現有的土地去擋水嘛它只要遇到豪雨它就整個土地被沖垮所以民眾都說水這麼多 溪水這麼多我就看它在用不著啊所以農民都會問說到底什麼時候才可以根本的改善農業部到底有沒有辦法來解決本省也要具體要求農業部要立即的來研議關山 |
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池上、鹿野、北南的水峻改善計畫並優先的編列經費來進行改善守護我們台東地區的農民生計請保證來回應 |
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我跟委員報告今年我大概去台東三四蓋特別在關山這邊的部分所以我們有一個計畫就是系統性的去解決台東地區的一個進入的一個灌溉從溪中然後拉到上面去做這個蓄水池然後再放下來所以我們現在已經有一個完整的規劃我們希望說透過這樣的一個方式能夠讓我們的水是最有效的利用 |
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好 謝謝部長部長這個是不是在一個月內也可以提供資料給本席辦公室好 我們會後我想我請農水組來提供感謝博定那我們提到的風災就是要提到根據這個災害救助的部分 |
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那因為這幾年隨著極端氣候的影響天災頻率越來越高光是這兩年我們剛才看到風災對台湯澤行的榮順就高達12億啦 12億元那我們現行的這個救助法規的規定卻趕不上天災的頻率跟受災害的程度像今年的寒海很多農民他已經申請過天然災害補助沒有想到今年夏天颱風又來 好雨又來那他這樣子就沒有辦法再申請嘛那問題是 |
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每次的災害他可能都造成農民血本無歸還有另外一個狀況就是說現行的這個天然災害救助是用救助金是用成本的20%去計算但是災情他可能會造成農作全毀而且還需要 |
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復原的成本所以你20%的救助金根本是沒夠的嘛這沒辦法去補充我們農民的基本的生活那今年八月份的時候卓院長在立法院備詢的時候其實有承諾說要提高我們天然災害救助金的上限那會請農業部盡快的來規劃那目前已經過了三個月了那我想請教院長目前規劃的進度是如何 |
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我先跟委員報告就是有關天然災害本身的一個救助的整個制度的改變我們現在已經在規劃了但是我們過往就是每半年調整一次所以預計會在年底之前會做一個調整然後第二年開始實施因為已經發生的東西你去調整的時候那會造成很多的混亂 |
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就是現在已經三個月了 那規劃大概是有沒有一個雛形出來我們現在規劃差不多 因為不只是世嘉齁包括特別是西部的非常多的這些作物我們同步在做檢討 那檢討完了以後我們在年底的時候就會公告新的一個辦法 包括它的一個補助的一個比例我們是不是可以將你們目前已經規劃的資料也跟本席幫這邊的聯繫一下 |
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很抱歉喔 我想我們在整個完成的時候我們才會對外公告在這個之前也不方便我們可以跟委員討論就沒問題OK好 部長你知道本席的意思啦其實你們都很了解每年都是遇到一樣的情況啦不過我知道我們對香蕉啊 我都希望它那個安全性我們那個已經有補助了那個叫什麼 桿子我覺得要加強 要施生要加強那個上次院長在台東的時候對鳳梨施加的那個有沒有 |
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本席有兩點建議第一個就是說我們要放寬現行天然災害救助上限的規定我們得以因應極端的氣候專案認定重災區的天然災害救助次數的上限我們把它放寬來幫助農民度過難關第二個就是我們因應物價還有產業成本的上漲調高天然災害的救助金額來保障農民的基本生計這邊也請院長來承諾 |
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也責成我們農業部在兩週內趕快把一份報告給本席辦公室我是不是可以跟委員說明您這兩個元的就是我們在做這個天然災害救助的辦法的一個調整但是我剛才說了天然災害辦法的調整我們大概會在年底之前大概12月初我們就會公告然後不要說兩個禮拜就給你因為我們包括了所有的作物要一起時間差不多現在在兩個禮拜差不多了部長這部分再請跟辦公室這邊聯繫 |
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那最後一個就是要來為台東的私家農請命就是去年中國大陸也取消了台灣私家零關稅的這個政策那我覺得這個一定會影響到台東整個私家的這個銷售量那加上今年喔市價可能會大出因為照這個情況沒有風災的情況下十二月份到一月初會有私家會大出藉此這些農民的薪水該怎麼辦雖然台東縣很積極的在推廣這個通路但是關稅的問題 |
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你要怎麼樣解決世家的穩定產量要怎麼維護你要怎麼輔導農民讓他能夠有轉做的方式我想中央必須要有更多的作為因為時間的關係我想這部分也請農業部將你們這樣討論的結果來跟本席這邊來報告 |
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謝謝黃建斌委員 |