| IVOD_ID |
165190 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/165190 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-07T15:54:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-07T16:05:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7b2debd084f055f05b9db47832eb9deeda8d1794993bca4437c4dc073b7ad873849987ba386f8b6b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:54:24 - 16:05:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第8次會議（事由：一、同意權之行使事項：本院交通、教育及文化兩委員會報告審查行政院函送國家通訊傳播委員會委員提名名單，蔣榮先為委員並為主任委員，程明修為委員並為副主任委員，黃葳威及羅慧雯均為委員，請同意案。（11月7日上午報告事項後）二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。（11月7日下午及11日）三、11月7日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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好 謝謝韓院長 麻煩邀請我們卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢經濟部長也可以一起麻煩請經濟部長備詢 |
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廖委員好院長午安我們這個地方比較低政治的話題我們先討論一下就是平溪的天燈其實它對於不只對新北市它是台灣一個非常光光重要的一個元素現在新北市政府它擬具了一個天燈的自治的條例那也送到行政院來了行政院其實是分到經濟部這可能太細的事情您不一定會知道目前有在做一些討論因為其實 |
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他自治條例的精神就是過去天燈會產生一些問題包括環保的問題是許多人在認為詬病的或者是他有時候會產生一些火災甚至燒到民房的一些賠償問題所以說這個文化或者是觀光的體驗也必須要隨著時代與時機進行達到共贏的一個目標所以說他們提出了這個自治條例那未來包括這個標章的一個制度那會有收費那包括未來的支出對環境的永續以及 |
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民眾的一個賠償的部分在這個知識條例裡面大概多有著墨現在送到了行政院來那院長對於這樣子的一個朝永續與時之距的一個知識條例您的態度是不是原則上支持報告委員知識條例的內容沒有看到但是平溪的天燈我個人過去也曾經去過我覺得那是非常有特色的當然我們要兼顧到是安全環保以及當地居民他們接受度的問題 |
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那這個如果有妥善的規劃跟很合理的溝通大家能夠達成一致自治條例的內容如何我們會採取正面的方式因為這個原章送到經濟部了經濟部也很感謝經濟部同仁跨部會都在協調當中了原章大家對於條文的內容大家都是支持這樣子的一個方向我們不討論太細但方向是這樣對的沒有錯但是其實內政部現在有一個問題就是說 |
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他認為這個自治條例所收到的錢叫做這個自費錢屬於特別功課那它不屬於規費那所以在特別功課上面它有一些法律的要求它必須要法源地方政府才能夠 |
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來對這個他們的這個自治條例來實施現在卡在這個問題那這個可能是一個跨部會的問題那是不是能夠請院長如果說你認同這個方向我不是說你今天要跟我承諾就是要核定但是目前卡在這個特別功課的議題上面導致內政部目前沒有辦法他是有一些異議的那是請我們的院長後續再去跨部會來做一些協調讓這個天然的自治條例盡快的通過 |
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規費或費用收入必須要依法所以在法源允許的情況底下這不是規費這是特別功課對特別功課如果是一樣那必須要有一個合法的法源那無論是內政相關或是財政相關我必須要跟他們多多溝通但是我認為能夠協助地方發展特色這個前提如果擺上去的話我們可以做其他的修正好 謝謝院長再麻煩院長責成我們的所有的單位議題來努力那接下來下一個議題 |
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就是這幾年其實台灣許多的買車的民眾都有在討論一個議題就是他們認為為什麼大陸的車輛沒有辦法進來因為可能一樣的車子大陸製的車子比如特斯拉好了我們不要講大陸的品牌比如說特斯拉他在大陸的一個售價大概就是台灣的大概一半左右而已那許多的民眾都有疑問說那為什麼不讓他進來台灣銷售 |
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那當然我知道我們政府一定有一些相關的規範我也沒有說想要趁這一次的質詢就要改偏車的方向或是院長承諾什麼東西但是我認為我們的行政院應該要有這樣子的一個政策的一個說明因為民眾很多都不知道為什麼大陸車不能進來那不能進來我相信一定是於法有據那這個於法有據的背後的精神是什麼我會請我們的行政院對我們的許多要購車的民眾來說明一下 |
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我們會也會負責說明當然我們對一些產品的進口當然他不能違反到國家的安全這是最基本的那另外還有的就是說油車會影響到國家安全嗎對這不一定那個我是說其中一個方向另外一個是對等談判的問題就是說他對我們有開放我們也會對他有開放台灣的車可以賣到大陸嗎不行 |
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裕隆不是過去 他是在那邊落地所以對等的部分要開放而且也不能獨支在那邊所以這個還是要透過一些彼此雙方的談判才有辦法去解決的問題 |
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那面對這樣廣大的構成民眾的一些訴求啦我們未來行政院會不會去做一些討論比如說你說的對等談判會去談嗎報告委員喔 這個電動車的部分我們當然要安全注意特別高因為它涉及到很多資安的問題那如果是電池啦或是整個車的底盤這個我們是有明文規定是不准進來的 |
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如果要來這裡設廠他必須完全符合我們的自治率再來他如果整車的進來飛電動車整車要進來又採取低價競銷的方式難道委員不覺得對國內的產業會造成重大衝擊嗎 |
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一部分是你們的說法是重大衝擊購車民眾的看法是充分競爭好沒關係我這部分我不說談就是我們對於大陸製的車輛我不是講品牌喔是大陸製的車輛所以我才拿特斯拉來做一個比例比例比例啦齁就是說外國的品牌歐美的品牌在大陸生產製造的也沒有辦法進來那 |
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我們對大陸是特別的一個規定比如說你剛剛講的安全的規定資安的規定這應該是所有一視同仁都應該要有的一個規範但是我們就直接明定大陸製的汽車不能夠進口到台灣來賣這件事情 |
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他是一個獨立的規定那我們的法源依據跟我們的精神到底是怎麼樣就國安的標準來看我們對資安是高度重視這一點我也要請委員能夠重視電車不要沒關係中國製的電動車輛跟外國其他國家是不一樣的安全你說資安我就順著你的話講沒關係電車不要那油車呢那油車剛剛說要互惠對等好所以說現在行政院我確定是不是行政院至少經濟部長講 |
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油車的部分是不是對等是我們最重要的一個問題所在 |
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對 因為所以只要願意雙方互相開放那沒有牽扯到資訊安全 國家安全那應該就是要開放嘛所有的汽車都是最敏感的因為汽車牽涉到可能他有限量的問題還有關稅多高的問題怎麼開放的問題是比較複雜的每個國家都有這個問題我們針對大陸就有特殊的規定嘛那這個規定的來由是什麼嘛中國沒有跟我們談這項啊所以說 |
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我們也沒有意願去談嘛對不對那如果說他們來主動跟我們談或者是我們的民眾希望經濟部去談你們會排斥嗎?可以談嘛不違反國家安全的情況下貿易對等的情況下院長跟部長認為這是可以談的嘛 |
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但是要符合 談的條件要符合我們對國內市場的管理啊包括法規 包括如果在這裡要落地設場所有的車輛進來都要遵守法規 安全的法規嘛對不對這一定要遵守啊 這本來就是汽車進口都要有經過安全檢驗測試嘛 |
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每個人都要有嘛不是共同的標準都一致那現在大陸的問題就是對等互惠的問題跟國安的問題嘛資通訊的安全的問題因為所有的進口車進來也都要經過我們的檢驗這些一定都要啊全世界對於現在這種低價請銷也都有相當防制的作用有些國家他是用提高關稅 |
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有些國家是用提高關稅來當作一個請銷的策略嘛對不對但是報告委員現在只要是通訊設備的部分我們是不允許中國進來的所以即便他是整車也要把這個通訊設備換掉他就是遊車嘛 |
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郵車它也有通訊設備啊好沒關係但至少我們要有一套標準出來才能去討論嘛對不對我們要知道我們的標準或者說讓民眾理解我們行政院的一個政策他也才不會誤解我們行政院或者是兩岸未來在談判的時候也有一個標準嘛對不對我們會說明清楚好謝謝這郵車的部分這個汽車進口的部分就到這邊喔那另外一個比較這個跟這個今天市主沒來啦就是剛剛王侯衛委員有問到的就是這個 |
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衛福部補充保費的問題當然有掀起很大的波瀾剛剛的答詢部分院長是說要提高保費的方向就是要增加財源這個方向您大概是知道的但是比較細的部分您可能是看新聞報導才知道的是這樣嗎 |
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看新聞報告是知道有一個預告那我們當然會從內部拿到一些訊息來看所以在這個石部長宣布之前他有給您看過裡面比較細的方案嗎我不知道的事情是說什麼時間要提出預告這個時間點不知道內容因為我們還沒有到達那個討論到一個完全的定案只是有幾項的原則你是方案不知道還是時間不知道 |
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時間我不知道預告 發出預告的時間內容我們還沒有到完全內容確定的時候因為我只知道幾個大原則 比方我剛剛說過所以我問你 你知道大原則嗎補充保惠第一大原則是要讓收入高一點的國人多負擔一點我們認同 這方向認同 |
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所以說院長剛剛從我們的對話當中應該是您知道一個大方向但是他宣布的細項並沒有提前跟您告知是這樣子嗎我沒有討論到一個定案的問題沒有討論到一個細項嗎好那我認為這個方向也是正確的但是不要讓他變成但是我有一句話30年來國人都受健保的保障現在是國人反過頭來要保障健保的時代大家也一定要有這樣的概念其實大家的意思就這樣而已好不好謝謝謝謝委員 |
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接下來登記第15位林黛華 |