| IVOD_ID |
164972 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164972 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-04T09:00:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-04T09:16:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/92d7873cb56ba25f3550965eaf1b6b68278cc3fca10ad78de205b2f10ac9af7228a6dcfce92d83dc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張智倫 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:00:40 - 09:16:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院國民黨黨團擬具「樺加沙風災暨花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖潰壩災後重建特別條例草案」，請審議案；本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「樺加沙風災暨花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖潰壩災後重建特別條例草案」，請審議案等5案。（10月31日）二、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。三、10月31日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。四、11月4日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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好謝謝副院長各位委員各位官員大家早有請卓榮泰卓院長謝謝卓院長備詢 |
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張委員好 卓院長早首先跟卓院長講一句辛苦了 謝謝沒有 大家都辛苦 謝謝卓院長 本席的選區來自於中和中和地狹人稠所以關心民眾生活品質 |
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的環境非常重要第二個交通建設非常重要那我要這邊先感謝內政部以及這個國土署針對我們中和的無水下水道的興建第三期第一標的興建終於在我上任後這個一年多的時間在114年的10月1號正式動工那三期一標的這個整個接管的可以讓 |
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有7000多戶的民眾可以獲得相關的好處讓地方建設順利推行那這邊也要拜託院長跟部長這邊我們三期第二標現在正在跟新北市政府正在跟我們的國土署內政部積極爭取也希望說大家共同努力讓我們的地方建設能夠推行那包含我們的人行道改善工程也希望說盡量來推讓人民有一個更好的環境以及更好的交通謝謝 這邊要謝謝 |
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謝謝院長 謝謝委員烏水下水道的處理是一個城市進步的指標人性道的改善更是安全的保障很謝謝委員的支持 到往後內政部國土組跟委員持續對地方來做更多的這個建設跟服務是應該的 謝謝 |
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好 謝謝院長要感謝監督還是繼續監督第二個就是要跟院長請教非洲豬瘟這次的入侵我們還是要必須正視根源的問題病毒顯然是從境外移入過去台灣並沒有非洲豬瘟自然傳播的途徑 |
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所以這次非常有可能是境外移入那第一道防線我相信大家都認為就是我們的邊境阻攔非常重要可是最近大家有沒有看到新聞當政府正在全力防堵非洲豬瘟疫情的時候確診出我們的航警局保安大隊有一位陳姓員警涉嫌這個收賄放肆走私案然後在今年桃園地權署調查在今年4月到9月他利用職務之便來協助走私集團 |
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用公務門來放行加熱菸26次那收費的金額高達百萬 |
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走私的菸高達9000條這件事情讓我們覺得重創國門安全讓社會質疑讓我們會擔心現在第一線的防線出現人為破口是不是我們的防疫跟邊境管制是有問題的是循同虛設的我要請教現在遇到院長遇到這樣的狀況有沒有一些改善的措施來讓這樣子的監督漏洞來去做防治 |
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這個案是不是要先說明一下謝謝張委員的關心有關您提到的這位個別的警員他已經列入太儲的對象我們也移送法辦當然他這件事情所牽涉到是加熱菸的部分跟委員所提到非洲豬瘟是不太一樣因為非洲豬瘟昨天農業部已經講了就是最主要的問題大概是出在未經徵阻的廚餘的部分這個部分我們的警政署會全力來協助農業部再繼續往下追查 |
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好 謝謝部長跟院長尤其是部長的解釋我這邊要跟院長要報告的事情就是走私會造成整個整體共犯結構的問題所以我拜託這邊要拜託部長跟院長不能把它視為一個個案而是對內我們自己本身的這個防堵走私這樣的問題的時候要特別的來注意第二個我要跟 |
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院長要特別請教就我本席所了解現在我們的安檢大隊航警局的安檢大隊的人力是有非常明顯的一個缺口我這邊了解航警局的缺額高達250多人安檢大隊的缺額也差不多有100多個人所以我要跟院長跟部長報告的是不僅是我們內部 |
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有相關我們操守的問題外部我們在面對這麼多的旅客跟貨物進出安檢的時候人力也相應的非常不多尤其在我們的安檢大隊我們編制的員額大概才400多萬400多人 抱歉400多人缺額就高達100多人這是一個非常嚴重的問題防疫安檢是非常重要的問題請問針對現在人力短缺的問題尤其我們非常清楚 |
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我們第三航廈已經有一部分也快要開放給我們所有國民來使用人力缺乏這麼大的問題有沒有院長跟部長有沒有一個讓人民可以安心我們的邊際防守的問題要怎麼來處理 |
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人力加強計畫我請部長來做說明我首先跟委員說明在非洲村爆發之後行政院正式的會議討論過好幾次如何持續2018年以來的所有的邊境管制我們檢查的結果我們只有更嚴沒有放鬆同時我要求X光設備要正常人力要繼續加強檢疫權要讓他安全的上場去檢疫這個 |
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違規的物品讓違規的物品無處可藏X光對人對那個行李啦 |
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全部檢查 而且會加量20%的檢查人力有不夠 需要再加強的我要求為了人力加強 在高峰時間所有的官務 行警 全部要上場不要讓覺得說 排隊排好長在等候 全部要上場那人力的調配 請部長來說明 |
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謝謝張委員的關心有關於行警缺額的部分確實是有發生過但是目前在114年10月的時候我們行警局已經補了61名的警力安檢大隊是補29名而且同時我們申請府安也就是保全的部分100人來協勤目前的缺額大致上不會影響到安檢的工作尤其是我們現在碰到這個邊境要防疫的部分大家都是群策群力 |
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我跟部長講 我了解現在缺額擺明是還沒有補齊啊因為保全跟我們安檢大隊的人是互相留用的嘛沒有 保全他不具備有警員的資格但是他可以協勤 |
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所以我這邊要拜託部長的事我一直在調現在到底缺額多少人到現在都還沒有我現在拿到都是很rough的數字這一百多個人的缺額的部分所以我想說會後時間的關係趕快把資料提供出來我們會後會提供給 |
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請院長來協助當時我記得我們歷任有幾位院長剛剛院長也特別提到當非洲豬瘟爆發的時候其實我們前任的蘇院長都有到我們的邊境到我們的國門來去做檢視請問現在發生這樣的狀況請問我們卓院長你有沒有考慮到我們的邊境來去慰勞我們所有的辛苦的弟兄好朋友我們在檢視這是所有非洲豬瘟可能爆發的原因我們認為它是從國內引爆出來的 |
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你是認為從國內引爆不是境外引入嗎?除以除以的部分除以是從哪裡來的?還是從境外嗎?除以沒有徵阻完全沒有按照規定來徵阻至於邊境的防護我們重複的檢查跟過去只有區研沒有放鬆我們現在往後會再加研20%的能量來做邊境的管理 |
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好那最後我請教一個這跟內政比較沒關係還是要請教就是針對財政部官務署認為說未達6公斤自用不會抓以及食藥署認為要延益調整因為今天雖然是內政的可是這簡單的問題算有點複雜請問院長你認為針對財政部官務署說未達6公斤自用不會抓那跟食藥署兩邊的衝突請問院長你這邊有沒有相對的想法跟看法我們現在要求 |
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又從最高的標準最安全的標準這個檢討起來認為他還是有疏漏的話那會提高標準 |
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即將會提交標準嗎下面去檢討如果這樣有疏漏的話就目前的整個檢查的過程有沒有疏漏人力量能能不能完全的補上來如果可以的話可以提高多少的標準我們就提高多少大概什麼時候會評估出來這我請財政部能夠盡快的把整個邊境的這個防疫邊境的這個把關的工作現在做全面的在加強當中不能不容許有任何的疏漏第二個 |
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我要再請教另外一個問題今天是11月4號之前我們在內政委員會裡面有討論過關於中選會的主委應該是在今年的11月4號是六位新任中選會委員的就職日我今天看到有一位新來的長官是我們新來的中選會主委嗎他們代理主委代理主委好 |
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好 那我請教一下代理主委今天您是以代理主委的身份到現場請問一下 院長我們現在到底缺額是幾名我們的提名作業開始了嗎大概什麼時候會開始我們現在正式的缺額是六名另外有一位是中途離開所以現在剩下四名的委員現在只剩四名 對所以我們還要再補幾名六加一都可以我們還要再補七名 有一位離開了那我想要請問一下現在中選會如何運作請教一下代理主委現在中選會可以運作嗎 |
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報告委員 現在因為委員沒有超過半數所以現在只剩下四位要五位才有辦法去召開委員會議那麼針對除了必須要經過委員會議的決議之外的業務我想代理期間我們會全力以赴請問一下代理主委我們現在每個月中選會會開幾次會議 |
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每次原則上一次每個月一次那現在如你所說的話那這個月是不是就沒辦法開會這個也沒辦法 因為不夠半數好 所以我要跟院長報告這就是我今天提出請代理主委來的問題這個問題非常嚴重因為李進勇主委今天不在我還記得我在質詢他的時候他特別提出來如果這個中選會的業務有所空缺有所停蕩的話會是國家的危機 |
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所以我再一次跟大院抱歉因為我們考量比較多現在我們先向各方來徵詢適當的社會公正人士或是法律專業人士能夠進入到這個中選會裡面來 |
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時間上因為這個月沒有辦法開會但上個月已經把明年的這個地方選舉的日期定了所以我們會在這個月當中無論如何會把人選給補齊所以這個月所以院長您的意思是說這個月你會把名單送到立法院來嗎 |
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謝謝院長 我也希望說代理主委非常辛苦謝謝委員的體諒希望這個月可以把中選會的名單再送到立法院來審核 謝謝接下來我要再請教的就是其實我跟院長請教過很多次的就是台灣的數位身份證換發的政策到底何時確定當時行政院在最早的時候從110年的1月21的時候當時暫緩 |
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發放數位身份證然後由行政院工程委員會來去做調節那從113年的1月19號調節成立可是其實大家都知道我們現在數位身份證其實花了人民非常多的納稅錢到現在就今年來講已經累積了大概花了人民十億的納稅錢不管是我們去年編了六千多萬今年又編了四千多萬 |
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那其實台灣應該跟上世界而且台灣一直在講說我們是AI內閣結果我們現在台灣人用的身份證還是紙本的身份證很容易造成詐騙集團的詐騙的問題最近政府我們跟政府一起合作有一個非常好的普發線經營萬元最近也看到新聞在說禮拜天的新聞說龍山市外面 |
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有人有詐騙集團擺了一個攤在跟人民收集身份證跟健保卡銀本說你只要給我們身份證跟健保卡銀本我們就給你一千塊為什麼我們擔心他拿到這個身份證的銀本他未來可以去普發現金可以領一萬元所以為什麼要跟部長跟院長講這件事情就是說我們的傳統的資本身份證在其他世界各國都算是比較沒有那麼先進的一個做法所以我 |
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尤其我們今年要編四千多萬的維護費去年也編了六千多萬那台灣是資訊科技大國三年過去了我們現在沒有專法政策沒有拍板而且數位身份證花了十幾億的建制成本跟預算是不是請教院長跟部長我們有沒有機會把我們的數位身份證往前再邁一步 |
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第一個就是普發現金的防詐機制是我們全力現在在進行防堵當中的我希望任何的訊息盡快讓行政機關知道我們可以把這個任何的危險可疑的把它補起來至於個資法的保護我們現在正在做一個機關的轉換的銜接未來個資會成立之後他是主管機關所以目前可能有這樣的一個 |
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緊接著過程至於先前的準備工作請部長來做說明是謝謝委員的關心委員你提到重點其實是資安不管是紙本或者是數位化資安的問題永遠是我們第一的要務所以我們現在在114年4月18的時候已經將個人資料保護委員會的組織法就是剛剛院長所提到的送到立法院審查那現在還沒有審查完均 |
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那如果審查完畢以後我們會按照這種個人資料保護的部分做政策治安跟法治方面的跨部會的整合那還有非常謝謝大院的支持就是我們在數位身份證已經支付有8億元那也是今年的預算通過的那未來有關於數位身份證的部分的話只要在各支會或是各支保護法非常齊全的狀況之下我覺得我們往後跨部會在做這個推動的方案還是可以積極研議 |
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所以數位身份證未來還是會推動只是要等我們的各支法通過相關的資安完整以後還有資安要完備大概有預計未來部長你認為幾年內會推動其實要兩院一起合作剛剛我提到這個立法院政審查組織法還沒有還沒有完全好那等組織法完成我會再請教請教你那最後還是要拜託院長跟部長 |
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我們國內詐騙還是理創新高到目前來講財損金額高達706億那很多民眾都在現在在想說我們現在辦案偵查的方式都還是用紙本詐騙集團現在都用很多電子AI數位化的方式所以實踐的關係是不是未來拜託院長跟部長我們在打詐的部分好 謝謝張委員 |