| IVOD_ID |
164968 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164968 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-03T12:13:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-03T12:20:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/64fc785e736c17e9ed06f55bd07dc810926af2ae94b9c1ca0effb6840739c0ecdb806415cfe579a85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:13:25 - 12:20:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「近年國軍各項軍事工程落後及軍、商購案延宕原因分析及具體應處作為」，並備質詢。） |
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主席 各位委員 有請部長請顧部長部長好今天排這個狀況報告真的是非常感恩但是總統會請你當國防部長 |
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我認為他一起有這樣的狀況所以要請這個大律師來去當國防部長所以在這樣一個情形之下如果我們從今天你的報告裡面這個延旦的言音分析真的是我認為你自己應該也不會不會滿意吧 |
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這個,我們譬如說以這個飛彈來講因採過,罪心過刑,怎麼會是這樣的一個原因呢?對不對?所以這個部分,本來就是罪心的,怎麼會變成一個理由呢? |
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所以這個不是一個我相信你作為一個律師看這個今天的報告如果你是立法委員恐怕這樣的一個延旦的原因分析都難以接受所以在這樣的一個情形之下這個律師總統既然請你當國防部長 |
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那正好現在你要發揮歷史的專長的時刻該談的就要去談畢竟當然是要兩國去談 就要去談要跟這個廠商談 當然要去談要談嗎 要不要去談軍國案是政府跟政府之間 |
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不管是我剛有提到中國那個國與國之間的談了我有提到所以要去談而不是說他說怎麼就說什麼因為這也會關係到我們後續後續不是還要再編列嗎對不對那人民怎麼去相信呢 |
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所以我們就是因為有跟美國在加緊督促這件事情才會有美國已經成立專案小組我們也會依照專案小組還有兩邊的定期會議來督促廠商競速產製交運所以才會有現在兩班之二十小時然後同時有五十架在線組裝這樣子的一個趕工的狀況 |
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這個除了趕工之外,當然我們期望能夠越早越好我們接下來談另外一個議題買了這麼多的軍購然後接下來還要繼續軍購我一再的提到 |
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精良的軍備更要有專精的國軍更要有專精的國軍剛才這個沈伯陽委員也有提到人力的部分我們看這個立法院通過了軍人待遇條例要提高相關的這些軍人的待遇總統也在 |
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114年今年的6月27號公布施行修正軍人待遇條例第5條的條文請問一下部長這個有你的名字這個令啊你有附屬嗎附屬表示你同意啊也有卓榮泰院長的名字表示你也同意啊那為什麼不編譯算 |
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跟委員報告我想籌備預算是行政院基於政府議題的原則會有他的一個思考那院長也一直在院會裡面已經一再的說明那國防部的立場我想我們會整體的規劃相關的這些家籍 |
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那所以也因此在今年四月七月八月都有各項加緊所以我們一直在努力檢討各項待遇因為每個部隊的邊線比不同那每個部隊所需要的專業人才不同所以我們會做一個整體的考量部長這個條例已經公佈施行已經生效了 已經生效 |
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之所以會公佈施行就是因為根據中華民國憲法徵修條文第三條第二項如果立法院認為有自愛難行可以送請立法院復議就是立法院沒有認為立法院認為沒有自愛難行所以沒有送立法院復議啊既然沒有自愛難行然後也同意總統公佈 |
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公布啦生效啦就應該依法來編列啊那為什麼不編列不依憲法不依這個法律中央法規標準法都規定啊所以這個部長你要去說服院長走龍臺院長去說服他真的是需要精良的國軍啊你看看 |
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我們當初買武器的時候當時啊109年以前那個人力比這個還高啊109年之後不斷的減少大幅下降無論是軍官士官士兵都大幅的下降尤其是士兵這些武器都要有人啊所以這個部分呢 |
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部長你要去說服你要告訴部長各位報告委員表上面這個書子可能是在講我們在人員維持會所設定的一個預算原額那我們今年的預算原額我們今年提出來的預算我們現在提出來的預算原額是非常的合適來編列所以我們避免還要在繳回的情況之下我們是比較合適編列不是實際的在營人數有減少這麼多啦 |
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這個我已經講過很多次了部長 至少他是下降的你把那個實際的書面數字提供給我 可以嗎好 我們實際的這個相關有一些可能涉及到我想沒有秘密對 可能我們另外私下如果委員要了解我們私下再跟委員報告可能不宜公開做一個說明最重要的就是要有英良的國軍以上 謝謝 |
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謝謝 |