| IVOD_ID |
164939 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164939 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-31T17:45:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-31T18:17:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:32:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ee73761948dc91d4667616e0b4cc08d9248844316b57826689e52c843e65bafde168438cab24f24f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:45:06 - 18:17:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。二、10月31日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、11月4日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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有出席的王世堅委員質詢王委員質詢之後我們會休息五分鐘 |
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謝謝主席你化解了沒出席的尷尬我請行政院卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備選王委員好你辛苦了我看到你這一年半來陸力重工我也 |
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想在今天我們又再度碰面的時候我要送你兩件禮物一個是望遠鏡我希望你的施政能夠高瞻遠瞩一個是放大鏡我希望施政能夠觀察細微也就是 |
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我們全面性的執政就要全面性的高瞻遠瞩觀察細微我希望這兩項禮物你就帶著放在院長辦公室每天提醒你時時刻刻我們要帶領我們政府邁向高瞻遠瞩的施政但是同時我們也要體恤民意觀察細微好嗎謝謝委員 |
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好 謝謝我們為謹記剛剛委員這段話 |
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高瞻遠瞩的部分我希望我們中央政府能夠不分中央地方比方說這一次我們要引進第二座護國神山NVIDIA輝達那以現在所看到先前碰到的一些障礙而言可能我們中央政府也要出手擴大在這個法律合約的解釋上面那麼讓台北市政府能夠放手去做 |
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那這一點是我們國家我們政府要高瞻遠足的地方那要觀察細微的地方確實我們這幾年來我們國家確實富裕了民間也確實富裕了 股票非常好可是我們 |
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隱藏的貧窮黑數卻是增加了啦所以講並不是我們全國2300萬人每個人都在玩股票沒有嘛並不是每位國民都買賣股票買賣股票的也不是每一位都賺錢所以這樣的情況下賺錢有 |
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運氣的問題 有能力的問題可是永遠都有一群我們沒看到在基層默默辛苦生活的民眾 |
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那麼我根據我們中央給的資料我們大概中低收入戶跟低收入戶有得到我們政府補助的大概2.3%左右也就大概53萬人左右但是主計處另外評估大概我們全國有7.5%的民眾是 |
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臨近貧窮線那這個7.5%就高達170萬而7.5%並沒有辦法完全顯示出我們現在社會真正貧窮的人數因為世界像歐美日國家他們都在15% 16%一點日本也是14%而我們竟然 |
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只有他們的一半可見我們在調查方面不是那麼仔細詳實那民間啊民間很多社福機構很多學者專家他們長年來這些公民團體他們有合作去做研究他們估出來確實我們台灣比歐美日是好很多但是 |
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抓鄰近貧窮的民眾也是大概有14%之多那也就是如果14%有將近320萬位 |
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我們台灣民眾其實是生活在貧窮線那320萬扣除我們有補助中低收入戶跟低收入戶扣掉以後等於我們還有250萬位市民是我們政府接不到他 補助不到他是不是沒看到 或者我們能力不足 |
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我們的稅收財政我們沒辦法讓普羅大眾都享受到政府的補助可是當這些貧窮黑素他如果碰到家裡比方說重大的傷病重大的意外他們有需要的婚喪喜慶的時候他們可以說是這個求助無門所以這個部分我希望 |
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院長 你要以我們行政院的高度最高行政機構要要求我們屬下屬各單位包括主機處的調查包括內政部 衛福部這些社福單位他們去詳實的跟22縣市政府的社會局 |
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還有去了解去溝通去查出實際到底我們有多少貧窮黑素是需要我們去幫助的我們以緊急救難金也好以常設的經常性的對中低收入戶低收入戶的補助方式也好總是 |
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我們在瀕臨貧窮邊緣的貧窮黑素民眾們這250萬位都是我們台灣的國民我們台灣的子民那我們也給他們也必要的幫助可不可以好 謝謝委員在一年多前 |
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520上任的時候我說過經濟成長固然是國家發展的指標公平分配才是文明國家的象徵所以我們會注重的是整個國家的公平分配當然我知道我們現在科技發展之後很多在收入的各個層次上面呈現不同的成長的趨勢我們更注意到比較低弱勢的就像我們的產業線上我們除了高科技之外我們重視中小微企業一樣 |
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委員所說的可能是我們現在對低收中低收一個認定標準的問題要不要整個社會來討論來檢討這個問題這個討論是對的現在在這個過程當中我們現在除了他們之外我們對所謂的邊緣戶保全戶或競評這個範圍當中我們會盡量用其他的社會支持跟家庭支持來予以協助院長 |
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我們30年前當時公佈大概34年前公佈前20%財富擁有者是後20%比較貧窮者財富是16.8倍現在我們在4年前公佈已經擴大到前20%是後20%的66.9倍 |
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而後20%的平均財富全家喔 全家的財富78萬只比30年前高1萬元如果說一個家庭四狗人家財富只有78萬那可以說是赤貧啦可以說是赤貧我認為這個部分確實 |
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這裡面你有確實你有做事去年你修正了去年契約你修正了中小企業發展條例那這個部分對於加薪減稅的部分那當時你有聽進去我們立法院的建議你那時候把這個失業的門檻後這個部分有把它去除那有大幅度的對於加薪減稅那麼有 |
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減除率有130%你提高到175%這是很好但是到現在為止這個成效一直還沒有統計數字給我們但是我以前在此之前加薪減稅推了4年多結果全國只有3738位民眾有 |
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受到這個加薪減稅的鼓舞去加到薪這個跟我們全國1000萬位勞工而言3738位那等於近乎是零啦所以我希望在中小企業發展條例你去除掉失業率這一個設限之後你提高到減稅率175%以後我希望你們能夠積極去推動積極去鼓勵 |
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各大中小企業加薪減稅那麼我也希望能夠儘早得到現在這個新條例修正以後的成效是怎麼樣好作為後續的推動跟修正好不好好的 |
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謝謝委員我們現在也從剛剛說的家庭支持對於比較收入沒有那麼高的我們從如果你是單身的租屋青年以及三口之家四口之家以及三代同堂我們在減稅減負擔方面都有比過去更多明年也會跟今年一樣這就是說我們在沒有辦法馬上加薪的過程加到一個合理希望的程度我們用降低他的負擔用家庭支持 |
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說服的支持來協助他還有一個就是新清安的政策這是明年七月就要到期我要跟你請問的就是說 |
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你有沒有打算要把它延長還是就到明年7月為止我相信你很清楚清清安當然他有達到很多正面的到目前為止總共合帶了136,500戶金額一兆565億這麼高的金額那麼如果都實質幫到青年成家 |
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無房無殼蝸牛首次來購屋那這些都還好可是我們大家都很清楚新金安三無啦無年齡限制無首購限制無收入限制沒有啊你只要名下無房就可以你現在只要名下無房 |
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開放到說 欸比方說我有房我不管我幾個房我要用這個新清安之前我全部過掉我不是首購啊 |
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所以無首購限制然後也沒有收入的限制竟然很多案例啊年收入400萬以上年收入400萬在我們國內個人年收入400萬這個算高所得喔他去申請新青安而且還拿到新青安的貸款補助這個 |
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這個400萬以上的竟然高達3000多戶 天啊天啊 不可思議我們現在蓋受害住宅 |
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先前各縣市政府蓋的國民住宅青年住宅公交住宅最大的一批最大的一筆也沒有到3000戶之多他隨隨便便就這麼樣就3000戶400萬年收入以上所以我個人那你如果要是查說 |
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這個新清安另外的缺點是什麼我覺得這幾年來我們房價高漲我們這幾年來房價的高漲當然不全是因為新清安但是新清安或多或少推波助瀾 |
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或多或少推波助瀾那麼我是希望說我今天就想問你說那你認為呢明年的七月到期你是要延長還是就此打住還是要做一些修正 你看法呢 |
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報告委員 從清安到新興安它整個量 新興安現在已經有逐漸回溫的感覺了沒有像過去一段時間數量那麼大況且我們在去年經過我們的調整限定它一升一次限定它貸前必須要嚴審 貸後必須要管理它必須符合它的自用的用途之外之後它的數量已經在比較降溫當中了那明年時間到了之後我剛剛跟委員報告真的是說 |
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基於青年居住正義的需要我們會檢討青青安現在之行上面任何的所有的困難我們會用新的方式來協助年輕人我就是等這一句話我們要給真正有需求的 |
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需要講助 鼓勵 幫助的青年代我看尤其比方說青年要成家你像剛在日本他們有類似這樣子的貸款補助的話政府的補助他們都有設施有限制條件日本比方說他們包括說他們的國安問題之一也是他們出生率過低所以他們就是說你只要 |
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只要要結婚的青年那這最優先尤其你收入又不高的甚至日本政府他們避其功於一役就說你要申請薪金啊你連你買的住宅啊 |
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政府會要求住宅品質這個住宅耐震係數夠不夠它是不是節能它是不是綠建築這些我認為都應該列入我們未來要補助我們要設置這些條件才對然後讓住宅的品質能提升如果我們如果像現在篩檢不嚴的話那個院長我們去年 |
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一年喔 新清安一年這下來導致房屋的漲幅不管22縣市 但白區 但黃區啊平均漲幅啊它是前三年的總和啦在新清安之前的前三年啊漲幅的總和才等於這一年來 |
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所以你看這多可怕因為就我剛剛跟你講的13萬6千戶有高達一兆565億這麼大的金額這就像直接像一顆原子彈投下去那個政府之大可能超過我們的一些評估跟想像好不好所以院長我希望能夠你能夠像你剛剛承諾的 |
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如果心情安你要繼續我個人是認為就應該截止重新再針對這一個部分我們重新想清楚要不然至少沒有首購的限制沒有收入的限制這些沒有年齡的限制五十幾歲六十歲還在心情安 |
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這個我都覺得這些應該要做一些修正好嗎是是我們會往這個方向來想還有有一點是好那莊部長你請回後院長不好意思那個我請法務部長麻煩請法務部長備詢院長我有針對死刑 |
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執行啊因為我們還有36位已經判刑有的都甚至超過30年了這36位死刑犯那憲法大法官也釋憲了嘛他釋憲以後大法官有說設這四大條件這四大條件就是說最嚴重的犯罪情節最嚴謹的審判程序包括合意 |
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要何玉婷一致的判決包括精神鑑定那針對這一些部分我跟法務部請教啦我說那這一些我們到底有做到這36位 |
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那我們從事項之後這樣評估了一年36位評估了怎麼樣這個進度怎麼樣法務部長你給我的答覆是說具體個案情節本部實難提供敬請諒查部長我跟你說我完全不諒解執行 執行是法務部的責任 |
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是你的責任這跟視線已經無關大法官講出來這四項條件最嚴謹的法律程序我們都給加害人給兇手強制辯護的不是嗎我們一年有15億法服的金額有12億有8成12億是花在加害人兇手的身上耶 |
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這樣子還不夠嗎我只要你給我一個評估一個答案我跟你講那些主張廢死的人我送他八個字啦假仁假義欺世盜民因為很奇怪很不幸的我們國家馬前總統十幾年去跟人家簽了那個什麼兩公約 |
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是跑出這一群廢死的莫名其妙他們集體的虛偽把簡單的事情複雜化部長我為什麼今天一定要問你在院長面前問你我要你一定要給我一個交代為什麼請部長說明但是我跟委員說我們已經有執行的 |
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前例在了其他的就依照憲判的文藝精神我們現在做一些修法上的這個加強跟補助我們期待能夠維護社會的公義請部長來說明 |
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我給你這個壓力不是針對你個人我對你個人完全不了解我是針對你這一個答覆你不是答覆我王世堅而已你是答覆我們整個立法院你是答覆2300萬國人同胞90%以上的我們的台灣人 人民大家都認為大家都認為我簡單講一句殺人償命 |
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這是千古不變的定律不是嗎我們聽從那一些偽善者他們說我們要考慮這個加害人兇手的人權那請問被害人的人權在哪裡執行死刑本來犯罪罪與罰要等量什麼罪什麼罰那為什麼偏偏來到 |
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最大二級罪無可安該執行的時候就折扣就不能執行這不是很奇怪嗎說你們說你們跟他們唱賀說什麼說這個加害人有什麼有教化的可能有他已經在懺悔了 |
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部長我今天在院長面前正式再告知法務部一次死刑很重大的一項意義就是還被害人公道就是這麼簡單不要慷被害人之慨不是嗎我請問施德蔣這位女教師剛好到今年上個月剛好第十一年 |
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11年石頭獎這個教師腦袋被兇手用榔頭敲破腦漿溢出還被吸進來這不是最嚴重的犯罪情節嗎然後他們一審三位一般啦一般在辯護自己出錢的你頂多請一位了不起兩位我們還派三位 |
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都很高檔一等一的律師去幫他強制辯護結果拖11年每一次審判的時候這位女老師她先生跟她兒子那是一刀一刀要再一次加害他們一次憑什麼要懺悔可以加害人要懺悔可以執行死刑槍斃以後到英朝地府去懺悔嘛 |
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不是這樣嗎所以部長我最後跟你講很嚴重的一點如果政府不公正的執行死刑的話我剛剛跟你講了90%的民眾支持應該執行死刑如果 |
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我們還在慷被害人之慨還陪著那一群假人假義的人戴著偽面具的時候那法治社會會崩解法治會崩解啊那因為那這樣人民會要求說那你政府你把武器權還給我們我們就跟美國西部槍戰時代一樣人手一槍啊為什麼要保護我們的 |
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家屬啊我們的好朋友啊我們家屬好朋友被欺負了那我們自己去討回來是這樣子嗎所以我跟你講嚴重性我們人民給政府這個公權力公權力的前提是要建立在公信力政府有沒有公正無私的執法所以今天我特別問部長 |
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你能不能給我一個比較具體完整面對人民的要求強烈要求之下面對人加害家屬的要求之下你給我一個比較比較公正簡單的回覆 |
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我想這部分現在還有36位未決的確定的死刑犯這部分現在是由最高檢察署在依憲判意旨來做一個審查我想委員這部分我們可以用更詳細的書面資料再跟委員做一個報告我想這部分還要再做一個依憲判意旨來檢視委員講的 |
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宪判意旨那四个要件那我想这个我们还是要审慎那因为这部分我想我们也是执行就一位死刑犯了那我想我们会再做一个检视那另外委员刚刚有提到那个施多奖老师那个部分那个是法院后来的一个改判的那我想在执行死刑这部分我想我们还是会依照宪法宪判的意旨以及我们 |
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呃這些的相關的部長如果說照你說的對啦執行這個我給你們喝彩拍拍手鼓掌這個很好但是如果照這個進度左院長上任來這一年半執行了一位那如果照這樣另外36位執行完的話可能我們在場的人可能都做鼓了這36位還沒執行完 |
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我們會死得比他們早這對嗎我告訴你齁 部長千萬記住一句話我為什麼說不要看被害人之慨因為因為只有被害人跟家屬有原諒的權利其他人 尤其政府 |
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我們沒有原諒的權利我們就公正執法就好不是嗎所以你這個回答也還是不夠不夠直接啦我還是聽不懂我還是聽不懂我還是聽不懂你執行不執行你這樣好不好我也不浪費大家時間你會後你把到底高檢高檢署是你們管的最高檢署現在是最高檢在審查中一線最高檢不是你們管嗎這部分我們再來了解 |
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我們要的不多啦至少我們只是想了解那你省的這36位省的怎麼樣就我剛剛講的四大要件我可以講其實法律上精神鑑定其實也是他們託罪的一個我講最難聽的就算兇手真的精神障礙心智缺陷坦白講 |
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他精神障礙他心智缺陷那人家就活該倒霉被他殺嗎有精神障礙有心智缺陷他不會去住精神病院嗎他家屬沒有責任應該把他們管好嗎讓他們出來亂害別人可以這樣嗎 |
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各位委員報告齁 因為我們這個並沒有廢死齁那這個依法執行 依法判決這部分齁那個執法人員也必須要用法律的一個規定表面上講沒有廢死齁來做一個執行院長的心意 我大概知道啦阿你的心意齁 已經很清楚你現在已經答覆我們的嘛就是表面上沒廢死其實在你心裡面已經廢死了好 我希望你給我一個你具體的給我一個答覆 |
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因為依照憲法的要求他要求行為人在行為時就審、審判時以及執行的時候都不能有精神 |
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這個喪屍的這個種種的問題我預測他們下一步啦所以必須要做這些程序他們會集體的跟你們說他們拒絕現在再一次精神鑑定這是我預測的啦我認為下一步要強制鑑定我時間有限部長我希望能夠看到你更具體的答覆給我好不好時間暫停你請回時間暫停王委員要請哪一位 |
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我喝口水你可以 不是流氓 可以喝水我不是流氓 我要多喝一口時間暫停那個 |
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院長還有一件你這一點是有做得不錯啦因為你至少給我完整的答覆了就是去年我說在重大的天災像颱風以去年康瑞颱風而言放假前一週給我詳細的數字就是對於我們身葬者他們的照顧怎麼辦因為我們的居服務員他們也有本身颱風 |
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的時候也有安危的問題所以這個居留服務員去照顧他們尤其失能等級在七級八級而且又是獨居的那等同於如果沒有人去照顧他們等同於另一次 |
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死刑一樣所以那你有把至少你有把詳實的數字給我那這個比例你這一年來確實有提升了不過我覺得可能還來不及還不夠那麼基於說屈服員 |
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由中央跟各社會縣市政府去溝通是不是如果有重大天災台風那等於是由這一個災情發布以後我們可以透過各社會單位通知獨區的失能者障礙者把他們集中照顧這是要不然乾脆用這個辦法否則再多的區域不允許 |
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1949.405 |
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就像剛剛講的數字有增加沒錯但是還是不夠好不好尤其獨居者好謝謝王世堅委員令人感動的質詢謝謝謝謝卓院長各部會議相關首長 |