| IVOD_ID |
164931 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164931 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-31T14:31:10+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-31T14:46:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ee73761948dc91d4b34b63f83762a018248844316b5782663788603e45fec910ccafdc092bcebbf35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:31:10 - 14:46:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第7次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。二、10月31日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、11月4日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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主席 大家好 我們請院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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薛委員好院長好最近媒體報導就是我們國安17項策略然後又21部法律還有120項工作要逐步上路跟我們之前有沒有很多的國安的修法還有治安法還有海蘭基法這個又是額外的院長怎麼會有這麼多角度要去做調整 |
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國安17項因應的策略跟措施還有其中的辦法等等都是總統在3月份召開連續兩次國安高層會議之後面對五大威脅所制定出來的在現階段 |
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我們綜合現在所受到的一些國內國外的各種衝擊以及對國軍對國家對社會對各個階層受到不同的各種衝擊跟威脅跟滲透的時候必須國家有所因應這完全基於國家安全之所需要 |
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我想現在中國的狀況也魂頓未眠了習近平的地位似乎也有搖搖欲絕的狀況我想他萬一有什麼狗急跳牆的動作 |
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特別防範那在這邊也提醒我們院長就是在開國安會的時候也特別幫忙關注保護台灣最重要我們長期間在關注台灣本身自己的國家安全跟主權維護的問題我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家我們會顧好我們自己的國家 |
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今天其實最重要的就是說有一些交通部有很多事情所以其實我們部長已經非常的關心非常的幫忙所以在這邊先表示感謝但是還有一些大的項目需要院長指示跟幫忙的部分在這邊特別提出來我想推動我們南台灣人流、金流、物流建構南高屏、陸海、空生活圈 |
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這是一個大的方向像北北基桃其實它整個區域經濟現在已經非常的活絡但是呢在我們南部就是台南高雄屏東可以類似北北基桃這樣一個區域經濟生活圈的概念那怎麼樣去連接的更好讓我們三個城市都能夠更加的活絡這是非常重要的工作所以在飛機方面我想那個 |
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有一首歌院長不知道有沒有聽過那個高雄一起飛高雄一起飛對就是那個那首歌我簡單唱一下讓院長參考海風吹啊吹高雄準備要飛飛向未來對全世界展現我們的美麗 |
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其實我現在要 |
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表達的是其實藍高屏真的很重要所以我在這一陣子部長可能比較熟悉我已經很努力的替高雄直飛到全世界的航線登起了很多的航線大概有25條左右我們現在其實還有一個非常非常重要的就是24小時的機場 |
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那24小時的機場現在我有請民行局也評估過那當然交通部也都知道那我也知道困難度很高但是呢我想這個真的是我們南高屏非常非常重要的所以在這邊特別就院長的面也再提一次希望說院長跟部長能夠給我們特別的評估一下那當然也許是南星計畫也許是新達港也許是其他地方這個有不同的選擇 |
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第二個就是我們的南向政策南向政策其實印尼有2.8億的人印尼的簽證一直都很困難其實很多航空公司我去拜訪的時候他們都表達非常大的困難度印尼其實我們在泰國、汶萊、菲律賓這些國家都是先事半免簽我們先事半免簽之後他們也跟著我們 |
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免簽所以現在我們的泰問非都是這樣子的模式但是印尼現在蠻嚴格的好所以呢就是針對這個印尼的部分是不是我們有機會真的是好好的思考一下可以開放的部分就是開放好那另外就是在路的部分公路的部分我們現在 |
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我是希望就是我們從高雄到台南中間這一段那包括我們左營那一段事實上高速公路塞車都蠻嚴重的所以如果有可能類似南部版五陽高架道路的規劃其實這個對我們南部來講很多人有這個想法跟希望那我也請交通部、高工局、國道、高速公路我請他們評估他們現在是說困難度也很高 |
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那我一直覺得很多困難度很高的東西如果我們不去做思考我剛講的24小時機場跟我說如果可以做早就做了啦但是如果現在不做以前不做現在不做以後什麼時候有機會做我是覺得可能比較高困難度的時候我們還是要去挑戰或者是說去好好的評估就是把這個24小時的機場可以完成那偉陽高架的部分我也是希望說交通部可以仔細審慎 |
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盡力去評估啦那當然現在那個交通部幫我們做的我也要感謝一下啦就是現在國道1號我們已經爭取到就是南梓到台南的路段這裡將來會擴充為八線道這本來是六線道 將來會擴充為八線道那現在也謝謝院長下去好多次了我們的國七跟那個高坪二塊這個都已經核定都已經准了 |
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包括我們之前的台17我們的劉世鋒部長以前當立委的時候也一直在幫忙爭取包括我們現在台88的有一些紮道都拖寬目前為止我們這樣子來做是可以 |
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會有改善的機會啦但是我是覺得就是說改善這個部分是好事但是長遠的部分還是想一個比較長治久安的想法那第三個是南高屏好航卡跟部長報告一下跟院長報告一下南高屏好航卡其實在日本啦在韓國啦 |
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這些人家都是規劃的蠻好的包括這一次的萬國博覽會事實上大阪的好玩卡也規劃的很好那我們交通部目前有一個不錯的就是TPAS其實還不錯但是TPAS是以交通的角度沒有少掉以觀光的角度景點的角度去把它做連接而且是難高頻 |
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我是覺得南高坪可以一起去做思考就整個類似北北基桃這樣子的思考去把它整體加強讓我們南高坪才會更加的壯大那第三個部分就是我們的 |
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國際郵輪的部分這個部分因為可能我們台灣人的旅遊習慣跟歐美的旅遊習慣不太一樣他們都是一星期以上我們都是差不多五天就差不多沒什麼要繼續了但是這個郵輪觀光目前在我們台灣來講在基隆港是做得還不錯但是它大部分就是由東北東北亞我們的 |
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高雄港目前其實郵輪跟基隆港比差不多他們的十分之一而已那未來如果再發展東南亞那配合院長跟總統所提的大南方新矽谷這個其實包括科技經濟包括觀光經濟這個可以一起來思考的這個我都希望說讓院長知道一下能夠特別的在我們家在努力 |
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那最底下一個就是那個亞洲資產管理中心這個也謝謝院長這個跟那個金管財政相關部會支持高雄那一天我們也有去會刊那會刊的狀況事實上就是說這個將來我們希望可以超越香港我想很快啦因為香港現在很多的錢人家不敢在那邊存錢了 |
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那香港跟新加坡當然我們能夠贏過新加坡可能速度還不是那麼快我想我們先贏過香港再來再追逐新加坡甚至贏過新加坡我就想到說以前那個共產黨他們有一句話說要抄鷹桿我是覺得我們抄香港心 |
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很快的可以趕過香港因為香港現在金融真的是大家都跑掉了那還有貨櫃香港的貨櫃現在不是跑來高雄是跑去上海比較多這很可惜 |
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我們應該是在整個南高屏的思考把它做大這樣子一個一個來做更好所以我是覺得這個部分要整體讓院長知道一下所以我想個別我再請教一下院長我們25條航線我就不追溯了另外就是我們高雄日本首航事實上我一條一條去做 |
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我都是岡山 熊本 仙台我都是當天去 隔天回來不然就是一天來回我去仙台是一天來回所以我們一直在爭取我們的航班可以更多我們目前恢復的狀況也還不錯就是說在疫情前跟現在高雄已經恢復得比疫情前還好所以最重要的就是24小時的機場 |
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謝謝委員在高雄從交通到金融到鐵公路一直這樣全面性的建議我一直希望說台灣有南北雙空港一個是桃園機場一個是高雄的機場 |
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那高雄目前來看以小港機場新航廈的改建為主那小港機場受到地理環境周遭的這個居民你要他形成24小時的航空程確實目前是有困難在地有困難因為宵禁的問題沒有辦法解決全世界沒有宵禁被取消掉對 未來以後我們 |
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大南方西區股整個科學園區起來很多的貨進出如果不能突破消息24小時的話對產業的發展確實是一個瓶頸所以我們也積極在看到高雄的機會我也看過其他的地方那目前不是要填海造地就是要更多的一個大的計畫這可能是幾年的過程 |
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所以我們在這個思考以及籌備過程當中先把小港機場的新航廈擴建這個工作給它做好增加它的容量同時引進更大型的廣體飛機服務高雄南部地區的國人們能夠在出國的時候有一個比較好的跟店長報告現在高雄機場擴建我一直都在關心要怎麼樣增加停機坪要怎麼樣注入新的航點那個膠囊旅館這個我們都會再努力我現在就是比較期盼的就是說因為 |
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十四小時機場還是需要啦是 我們會在那就是說希望交通部 民航局就是說這一個我們很因為你幾十年來都沒有做未來其實真的是需要那總是要我們又有決心然後去做一個審慎的評估找到好的地點比如說南星或者是星達南星其實我也問過民航局他說風向的問題困難度可能也蠻高的啦那 |
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清達港的問題有沒有機會就是說這整體希望說院長跟部長可以做一個比較有決心式的 |
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然後請美漢局真的很認真的去研究有的是地理關係有的是航線的問題風向的問題有的是航管的問題不過交通部已經很積極在尋找如何建立一個20小時沒有宵禁的一個南部的航空城這樣在做規劃我是說在這個規劃的同時我們還是先把小港機場新航廈的擴建給它做好服務南部的鄉親那未來你看現在這個 |
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亞洲市場管理中心 高雄 引進那麼多銀行會同時再進行 一方面加速現在的新行下一方面也在積極研判 哪裡選擇適合的地點來做這個工作這個我希望說雙軌進行拜託院長再交代一下 那部長我們就積極一點好的 我們就跟委員多多請教一下意見謝謝 那個印尼我大概簡單看一下你看印尼他人口2.8億 世界第四大東南亞第一大國 |
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那以後他曾經開放喔他曾經開放台灣免簽但是後來他又不要了因為就是 |
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我們一直不願意是 我們的想法是這樣 第一個一定要互惠雙方互惠 第一個原則第二個 如果我們現在有一些問題是存在的希望雙方 政府政府之間能夠就目前存在的一些問題包括管理上的問題服務上面的問題 人流上的問題大家做一個好的討論這個我跟院長報告 院長報告印尼那邊是比較希望我們 他們那邊應該是問題不大但是我們這邊 |
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要免簽的問題比較大所以我剛剛為什麼提到就是說你看第一個泰國問來菲律賓都是先我們先開放免簽他們就會跟進那疫情後印尼曾經開放我們免簽 |
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但是我們沒有跟進後來他們就縮掉了問題是我們這邊當然說開放一定有它的優點跟缺點我今天好人有小缺點我就是還是要做好人要包容小缺點那你今天開放免簽會有一些小缺點那要怎麼樣去把這個小缺點克服掉做一個大的方向來達成這個免簽的目標 |
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這個是不是拜託院長也指示交通部跟移民署可以盡量思考一下因為這個交通部站在觀光署的角度大部分都同意移民署一見比較辛苦就是把問題現在找出來跟對方政府談一下雙方做一些安全上的統合協調互相來加強這個關係好 |
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剛才我大的方向都有跟院長報告過了就是說這幾個包括我們剛才提到這幾項我會陸續再跟交通部保持聯繫也拜託院長這幾個大項特別再幫忙關注一下也許要投注比較多的資源 |
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或者是評估的費用等等的這些東西也希望院長能夠支持讓交通部更好做事交通部已經很幫我們的忙了我們還是表示感謝啦那未來要更取更大的南高屏區域經濟我們會繼續努力拜託院長好 謝謝 |