| IVOD_ID |
164887 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164887 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-30T09:49:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-30T10:01:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/480bc0daa4347f0026146cbc576dd1ced0f4389371b7337b7858943a6a9958c97928a3d90b696a425ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林國成 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:49:28 - 10:01:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長及交通部觀光署署長就「900萬國際旅客達標情形及旅宿業歇業缺工情形振興改善措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長及交通部觀光署署長就「配合賴清德總統所提『國家希望工程』與『觀光立國2030年觀光兆元產業』等目標如何務實達成」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月27日、29日及30日三天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席請我們林國賢 林政次好 政次請那個那個署長是不舒服是吧 陳署長你不舒服 來黃副署長起來但是署長你要聽喔署長之前有跟本席報告他流感所以這幾天比較不舒服沒關係啦但是因為決策還是你要負責還是要聽一下黃委員早好 |
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市長你們的報告我都看了每年的報告都差不多啦跟你們講這些政策也沒有用每一個立法院一直在談一直在談從 |
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近來觀光的人數從1200到1000又下降900一直降 一直降但是這裡面有凸顯一個問題也就是我們出國的人數 |
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上次我已經講過為什麼他不回來為什麼他不想來問題就是因為他不能去吸引他再回來的感覺所以為什麼我們的國人都要出國去說實在的你們還敢講什麼希望工程光光立國說實在的這不要再講了什麼光光立國 |
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都沒有一個基礎然後沒有一個創新那怎麼會去光光立果呢好 所以我常主張這樣啦因為當然因為署長也剛上任了幾個月那說實在的 |
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苛責你們也沒有什麼意義但是最起碼的話民意代表就是要提醒你們在觀光如何去做改進跟如何去做精進這是非常重要的所以我特別強調任何事情 |
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小問題解決大問題就沒有可是問題現在我們小問題都沒有辦法解決當然是有大問題嘛所以你像剛才我們洪孟楷 昭緯所講的這是1比1或者5比1我跟你講喔如果我們觀光業的這些移工是1比1我坦白跟你講勞工絕對是抗議你們的 |
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因為營造業是一個國家建設這麼重要他都沒有一比一他都沒有一比一所以這個我在想特別陳署長還有黃副署長要特別去注意該爭取的還是要爭取適度事辦讓他們可以引進但是是在保障勞工的情況之下 |
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要去做適度的調整這個是合情合理那如果是一比一我認為是比例太高這個我要特別提供給各位來做參考好來唉我要談這些啊當然看起來也就是我們理管業的管理辦法也就是一定要去管理不要以為這是小事就是很簡單就是 |
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過境過境就不管如同去縱容所以你知不知道在台中裡面我們消保處集合21家的旅館業只有11家只有11家在緩真空管理的部分合格 |
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其他都不合格可是你們檢查21家都是不合格請問一下在這個部分你們怎麼做管理來黃副署長你們做什麼管理 |
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這部分有跟縣市政府合作後續可能部分我們針對於稽核的部分去加強因為有些市長是合作的部分或許他們在稽核的部分做得不好有發現這個問題我想我們這個頻率的部分後續可以來加強好啦黃副市長還有林市長我要坦白跟你講你們不是有每一年要離管業的考評嗎 |
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你們都不把這一項把它放進去他怎麼會去認真做啦所以這個就很簡單你們的考評制度裡面就有瑕疵你要他們做的就把它放在這裡你這裡不能得到五分不能得到三分我最起碼的話我就是給你扣分那你扣分的時候因為旅館業不管怎麼樣在整個國際裡面他還是需要你們的認證啊 |
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所以這個部分 市長你的看法怎麼樣報告委員非常認同那基本上這個反增洪管理應該是每個旅館大小旅館都要做的事情所以我想跟您報告交通部應該會要求各個旅館都要執行反增洪管理然後由觀光署來跟縣市政府做稽查集合的動作才行 |
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因為隱私錢嘛這個不是只有針對有什麼其他的想法最起碼人在隱私錢尤其是單身女性進了旅館或民宿她在住宿的時候說實在的她的隱私非常重要那為什麼我們行政單位我們可以做得到為什麼 |
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不做所以我建議我也同意市長就是慢慢把它改進納入正軌我想在督導會比較好一點另外就是因為人數的問題剛剛宏昭召委已經講得很清楚也就是大家喜歡出國入境的很少我們出境到9月底我想我的數據是你們給我的我們出境是1000多萬人 |
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可是入境只有400多萬人那為什麼這個嫌疏會這麼大當然不要講國際的匯率問題等等這個都是在騙自己啦我們就是要檢討因為我們就是沒有辦法讓所有人又牽涉到整個政策這個對岸 |
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你也沒有要開放讓他們觀光所以等等這些當然做起來就會很困難那我也希望我們要去注意到這個問題注意到這個問題所以另外一個也就是特別這個房價的問題我發現到房價的問題 |
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當然啦 因為最近這個演唱會的產業不管是台北也好 高雄也好大家都在拼嘛大家在拼產業嘛那這個我們當然要肯定它啦兩邊的政府不管是台北市政府或者高雄市政府這個是一件好事也可以促進觀光這個我們基本上我們是全力支持但是不要忘了也就是我們這裡有一個問題 下一張 |
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你看一看喔房價豐台到十倍把所有旅客當成盤子來看一下我們到底在這個部分喔你看喔有幾家喔只要演唱會他十倍的禮會接下來 |
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也有9.8說實在的像這種東西不是在坑這些消費者嗎人家去消費看演唱會你們這些我跟你講喔這些只有台北市喔我想高雄也有但是我數據裡面是台北市來黃副署長陳署長你們看一下這個怎麼管理這個怎麼管理 |
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這部分我們有關房價是有如果超過核定房價被我們結合出來的部分是有相關的嗎黃副市長本來原來喔原來是1240塊那假日他稍微調升一下是3695塊這很奇怪演唱會就變成13838塊請問一下有沒有超過你們的限定的價錢 有沒有 |
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有立法委員質疑這些事情你們叫做有所作為一定要去下所有公文拜託地方政府轉達這些這個叫做 |
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誠信的欺騙老百姓欺騙消費者這是違反公平教育法有演唱會他就是這樣這對消費者是沒有保障你想一想既然這麼小的問題我們都管理不好請問一下我們如何去推觀光立國啊所以我要拜託我們觀光署雖然這些自由市場但是千萬要保障消費者 |
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所以你不能因為為了這些演唱會的產業結果房間訂不到沒有關係但是你有稍微調價是在合理調價範圍你不能把人家當成凱智嘛所以這是對人民對消費者是沒有保障的所以我要拜託我們 |
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署長還有副署長你們要特別去注意這些光光要做要合情合理的價錢所以我在台灣一萬三千八百多塊我去住你知道我到日本去日本是最貴的我到國外去韓國去你知道我要住多少天嗎 |
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你們去看看人家國際啦韓國啊 理數業最高最高的檔級不會超過三千塊啦我們是一萬多塊請問一下 當然大家都往國外跑啊 |
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我就出一個機票我吃也便宜住也便宜那我們在台灣國內旅遊所以國內旅遊為什麼打不出來問題在這裡問題在這裡所以我要拜託我們署長還有次長特別要去監督一下不要把消費者當成凱子這是非常重要的 |
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謝謝謝謝非常謝謝您提醒那這個案例跟相關的室友我想我們會要求各縣市政府要去做查核第二個呢如果違規依照這個發展觀光條例處一萬以上五萬以下的罰款該划的還是要划對那我們也要呼籲各縣政府不要不要不要放任務因為避免殺雞取卵好避免這些旅館業者造成旅客負面的效果好謝謝市長好 |