| IVOD_ID |
164885 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164885 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-30T12:15:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-30T12:26:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/480bc0daa4347f00a675c208ea7b015855b9b7d9df2795fe7858943a6a9958c90fcb2c0d88e7dc125ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:15:23 - 12:26:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：（上午9時起）
邀請衛生福利部部長、農業部、財政部、交通部、經濟部、數位發展部、海洋委員會海巡署就「如何精進海外小型包裹夾帶肉品之查緝與防堵，持續強化阻絕疫情於國門，同時優化國內後續對於非洲豬瘟防疫」提出專題報告，並備質詢。
（下午2時起。若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開）
一、繼續審查行政院函請審議「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員廖先翔等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法第三十五條條文修正草案」、委員牛煦庭等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四十九條條文修正草案」、委員李昆澤等26人擬具「職業安全衛生法第三十九條及第四十九條條文修正草案」、委員魯明哲等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四十條條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員林淑芬等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四十三條條文修正草案」、委員楊曜等22人擬具「職業安全衛生法第六條條文修正草案」、委員李昆澤等27人、委員黃秀芳等21人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員翁曉玲等23人擬具「職業安全衛生法第三十五條、第三十九條及第四十九條條文修正草案」、委員范雲等18人、委員劉建國等17人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員吳琪銘等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法第六條條文修正草案」、委員沈發惠等18人、委員王育敏等19人、委員王育敏等25人擬、委員郭國文等17人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四條條文修正草案」、委員郭昱晴等17人、委員羅廷瑋等18人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、審查
（一）委員王正旭等23人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員吳沛憶等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員莊瑞雄等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法第九條條文修草案」案。
（四）委員林月琴等21人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條修正草案」案。
（五）委員林淑芬等21人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員邱鎮軍等22人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員徐富癸等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員黃捷等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
【二、(三)至(七)案，如經復議則不予審查；二、(八)至(十)案，如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書不予審查】
【逐條討論】
【10月29日及10月30日，二天一次會】） |
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主席好麻煩關務署房檢署還有防震師好那個各位那個官員我們今天在討論說這個防止豬瘟阻絕於邊境主要是這件事情那我們先來看一下 |
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我們先來看一下這個豬瘟其實不是只有在有些人強調中國大陸或東南亞這個紅線的這個紅色的部分其實是有豬瘟出現的地方其實蠻多的那我們是看到說我們現在政府是在10月22號才開始說要針對中國大陸跟東南亞要開始查緝其食品 |
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但其實你可以看到9月15號韓國就已經爆發非洲豬瘟他在今年年初的時候就有了然後到9月15號變得比較嚴重他們調整到最高等級的嚴重那我們今天為什麼為什麼只針對東南亞跟中國食品其他國家的防範機制有嗎 |
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我跟委員報告所有非洲國家的只要含豬肉跟肉質的產品都不可以進來國內所有的都不行所有不行我知道但是那這邊政府講說只針對中國跟東南亞加強這新聞中央社的報導那如果針對加強那其他的為什麼不加強 |
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跟委員報告那中國跟東南亞的加強是因為我們從所有的氣質品就是不管在海關那或者是在國際機場或者是在我們的港口等等這些氣質品裡面那我們去抽驗逐驗抽驗那從他的檢疫物的檢疫的結果那發現我們非洲朱溫層陽性的10%那其中中國大陸還有越南包括泰國跟馬來西亞都是 |
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比率比较高的因为比率比较高所以比较加强那当然我觉得应该是要做到滴水不漏啦我们来看一个东西就是有关于邮包的部分因为我看到民进党的立委吴思瑶非常重视这一块但他主要都是针对中国可是实际上有一些跨境电商你们也可以去看一下 |
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特別是到底是哪一些東西是可以下訂哪一些東西是不能下訂國人到現在搞不太清楚連吳世耀都搞不清楚我看到吳世耀他在他的貼文上面講說淘寶的罐頭很多但實際上請問一下署長罐頭是可不可以可不可以訂購 |
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署長罐頭可以訂購嗎罐頭目前是可以的罐頭可以嗎但吳思瑤不知道他以為罐頭不可以所以他講說淘寶上面有罐頭啊這些都要查所以你看連執政黨立委做過幹市長的都搞不清楚可見其他的國人到底哪一些可以透過那個 |
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電商來購買或哪些不可以現在大家還是很混亂那我現在秀幾個給你看這是我們從跨境電商上面看到的像左邊這個是酵動食品豬肉湯即食調理包請問一下這個可以進來台灣嗎可以嗎其實這要看製程要看製程 對那所以你光看這個圖片署長是不能判斷嗎 |
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你看你們兩個都要討論所以對是委員跟委員報告一下罐頭食品現在樣態日新月異喔所以其實這個不是罐頭食品就是高溫滅菌罐製我所謂的 |
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我現在在問你說這個酵動食品豬肉湯即食調理包這可不可以進來台灣我是問這個問題欸是 跟委員報告如果說它這個這樣子的產品它的F0只有大於等於3達到一個商業滅菌的狀態而且它的包裝是密閉式的話不是 你不要跟我講原則嘛我現在就是我要下單了啊我現在到底這個東西能不能進台灣嘛 |
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我現在就問你嘛所以這樣子的產品我們都會建議民眾說如果你有商品的詳細資訊可以提供給我們我們可以回覆給您您再下單所以你在電商上面看到這個東西你覺得很好吃你想要買你無法判定嘛你都要先去問一下房間署說這可不可以進來進來才能確定嘛對不對那所以我問你這右邊這兩個你大概也不能回答了嘛這個不倒翁山豬血湯 |
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這可以進來台灣嗎如果只看外包裝的話沒有辦法判定那你上面講說液態含肉液態湯是指什麼上一頁含肉液態湯類這是指什麼 |
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這個就是說如果他的這個是湯類液態的含有肉品而且他不是符合剛剛講的高安滅菌罐製的定義你現在一直講原則但是你實際上我們我現在講的是消費者的狀況嘛消費者就是會看到這些東西那到底是可以下單還是不可以下單他無從判定起嘛 |
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不是嗎那怎麼去解決這個問題嘛因為這個就牽涉到後面假設他不小心下單進來如果說他是人帶進來的話你們是有宣導啦他進來之前主動詢問如果說發現不可以那你交出來是免受罰嘛對吧那可是如果是透過電商下訂呢一樣就是在搞不清楚情況之下被查到了他可以講說我不知道所以不受罰嘛 |
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所以包圍園我們在電商上面的話都會請他們把含肉的產品下架那我們也會跟民眾鼓勵他們說如果有疑問的話可以跟方姐姐來詢問你說請電商把含肉食品下架對 但是我現在就是在那個跨境電商上面抓的照片啊它就沒有下架啊你就是可以訂啊我現在消費者的問題就是我不知道訂來之後我花錢了以後會不會被罰啊那要怎麼去解決這個問題嘛 |
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現在問題在這裡嘛是 所以我們剛剛有報告說我們有一些預防性的措施包括每天都有上這個電商的平台去做關鍵字的搜尋如果發現的話我們就請電商即時的下架不是啊 那就是有啊不然你就是做不夠啊不然我這個查到而且這是跨境電商 是國外的耶你怎麼要他下架 |
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我們會持續的跟無電面公會等等的團體溝通這個是副組長是不是你講的都是口號嘛我講的是實際嘛我現在想的是實際上我們民眾會遇到的問題你講的都是口號嘛你講的都是原則嘛但實際上原則跟實際現在聽起來有極大的落差嘛所以就會有漏洞嘛 |
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因為這段時間真的是我們對我們來講是很關鍵期是不是我們重新就針對正面表列哪一些的產品不行我們把它整理出來快速在我們相關的媒宣上來做披露讓民眾可以做比對那假設有更進一步想要了解再直接跟我們來做聯繫所以你現在是宣導說如果大家在電商上面看到像連你們看照片都判斷不了的東西的時候要主動問一下 |
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房检局说这可以买那你请问一下去询问这件事情方便吗你们是要询问方便吗通常询问多久比如我现在已经要要下单了我现在就要下单我只有10分钟时间那我在这10分钟之内我要打电话到房检局然后问说这可不可以 |
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這樣子我們來正面表列來讓民眾可以參考但我跟委員說一般我們高溫殺菌高溫殺菌我們的高溫殺菌大概121度我們現在在解決我知道這個原則我都知道啦這個原則我都我現在是在講食物面嘛 |
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你現在講的東西大家還是聽不懂啊實務面嘛因為我剛剛就是具體問你嘛我是消費者我要下單到底可不可以你們也無法回答啊你只講一個原則啊那你講的原則大家都知道啊可是那個原則放到實際上面就無法操作嘛這就是有漏洞嘛 |
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然後再來就是 現在東京進來了大概你們現在裁罰的比例很低嘛是不是這根據資料111年5月20號到114年10月16號郵件查獲1320件但只裁罰了9案 總共14件主要原因是什麼 人手不足是不是不是不是因為我聽你們私下講說是因為人手不足無法去仔細調查說那個案件到底什麼狀況 |
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不是這個我可能要說明一下他的太陽上第一個我先說明進來的霧絕對是全部銷毀我知道有銷毀啦我們現在是在講說那對人的責任的部分要因為我們在查訪這個當事人的時候很多都認為說他是被冒名或他不知情多少1320件裡面有多少件他是說他被冒名 |
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這個還要再...這個應該我看昨天你在別的委員會很多委員在問這個問題啊怎麼會打不出來1320件多少被冒名總不可能大家都被冒名嘛台灣現在被冒名那麼嚴重不是 這個是銷毀的銷毀的已經有1320件對啊 那總共幾案 |
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那目前有裁罰的是9案我知道裁罰9案 訴訟中的有20幾案還是很低啊所以他沒有辦法達到嚇阻作用啊 |
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第一個就是說大家搞不清楚下單了嘛有的搞不清楚的嘛啊第二個有可能是故意的嘛啊故意你們現在是裁罰故意而已嘛搞不清楚跟過失是不裁罰嘛對吧但是搞不清楚前端我剛問你你們自己在這個備詢台上你也無法判斷啊那你無法判斷你要消費者怎麼去判斷所以這一塊問題要解決嘛然後再來就是 |
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你如果說讓他搞不清楚東西進來他錢也花了這你也是讓民眾白花錢他不想違法可是就是因為搞不清楚所以不小心這東西就他拿不到錢花了我覺得這個問題也是要解決我們來蒐集這個樣態來做一些的對應的處置看怎麼樣再來加強我想也做到民眾的權益但是最重要還是在防疫不要成為一個那個破口或漏洞好謝謝 |
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這個很嚴重耶這個是有問題的來 |