| IVOD_ID |
164875 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164875 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-30T11:21:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-30T11:27:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/480bc0daa4347f0076fc5eb7b5ada62ff253141cf72ece13cec708ebf7c6865573c96730c4a1dd3e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:21:44 - 11:27:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請外交部、經濟部、大陸委員會報告「我國參與2025年度『亞太經濟合作（APEC）經濟領袖會議』的任務及目標」，並備質詢。
二、邀請國家安全局、外交部、大陸委員會、法務部、法務部調查局報告「中共對台進行長臂管轄、跨境鎮壓及我國相關應處」，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請外交部的林部長來 部長請那林部長我想請教啊APEC明年在大陸嘛是不是對那我們要不要參加要 |
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一定參加嘛這是我們的權利平等參加一定參加你會不會覺得因為APEC我看參加的這個領袖高官會啊基本上都是國家的領導人嘛就是總統啦 主席啊或者是總理之類的嘛那我們長期被矮化啦老實講對台灣是非常不公平的啦但是也沒有辦法因為國際限制嘛那 |
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問題是我們能不能爭取到再往上突破一點比如說卸任的總統副總統用這樣子來取代現任的總統副總統我們有沒有在努力這一方面不是只有企業界的現在都找企業界的當然林新立當過行政院副院長這個還講得過去可是畢竟只是行政院副院長他如果是副總統當過副總統那就不一樣了 |
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其他世界國家都是國家領袖啊我們應該努力一下當然是最好是現任總統副總統啦但是卸任的也可以啦如果以來講的話從這個角度來 林部長要不要回答一下是 我們會努力短期內很難做到勒 |
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如果大家都很支持我們當然支持啊你能夠信任總統這個賴清德區我們更支持啊對不對所以你現在講我就拉回來講一句話啦川普講說台灣是台灣喔這個大家當然很振奮啦任何人任何國家對台灣好的我們都支持台灣就是台灣這到底什麼意思這到底什麼意思 |
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台灣是台灣 中國是中國吧那就是一邊一國這是委員講的啦就是說美中的談判不要就是一定要跟台灣議題掛鉤啦這個意思啦不是 你要知道他權文嘛他的權文後面他說台灣有晶片廠商去美國投資這個才是重點所以他可以自己決定不要透過誰決定 自己決定他重點放在生理的角度來大家都了解嘛 |
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這個川普他是個生意人 他談世界的國際大事也是用生意的角度在談所以講台灣是台灣 後面你要把全文全部讀完讀完就是 還你台灣有晶片商來美國投資他整個才是一個complete如果你過度的解讀 當然如果你要這樣講的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
那我們可以問下一步啊如果你把他承認說 喔這一邊一那個的話那請他承認台灣做得到嗎 請問外交部長要不要跟美國提出要求既然這麼支持台灣 請你承認我們有啊 美國有制定台灣關係法關係法跟建交啦 我講的是承認 是建交啦不管跟中華民國建交也好 跟台灣建交也好不管什麼名稱都好 我們都支持啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
211.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
234.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
對不對所以這個來看的話不是這個來看很清楚的來看他這是深利人講的話深利人講的話有時候點山倒市啊改來改去明明要課中國大陸100%的關稅後來慫掉了也沒有啦對不對也沒有啦變來變去啦那最後一個問題就是我們現在努力了半天外交部長努力了半天其實講起來我們希望參加國際的組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
240.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
246.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
中藥的越來越少連IKEA這個也沒有連WHO的WHA |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
249.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
272.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
做個觀察員都沒有一直倒退參加的名稱最多的就是Chinese Taipei不然就是Chinese TaipeiAPEC的Chinese Taipei不然就是WTO的台澎金馬獨立關稅領域還有最糟糕的是什麼亞洲開發銀行的中國台北或者台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
273.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
292.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
看嘛 中國這個裡面唯一用ROC的是亞非農村發展組織這個東西非常少的組織國際上重視的你們外交部常常講我實質外交幾乎全部都是三分之二以上都用潛尼斯台配這個名稱您滿意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
296.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
315.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
因為這個是我們當時參加APEC的會籍的名稱嘛是嘛但是我們全世界我們有參加目前統計我們就有46個有正式會員的國際組織其中全台北占19個還有其他的 很多元有沒有中華民國 也有啊 幾個幾個 告訴我 四個四個 台灣的幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
321.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
332.676 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
也是四個四個 台灣的四個你不是有四十幾個嗎怎麼會有四十九個 還有剛剛講的啊比如說那個關稅領域也是一個啊其他的方式都有啊這個加起來不到四十六個啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
333.712 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
338.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
三分之二都是用潛意識來配這個東西我覺得你們要努力在追求說看到川普這樣子大家很興奮的之前努力爭取國際組織正民化如果要的話正民化把它往前一推最少通通變成除了中華民國 除了台灣以外通通是潛意識來配 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
358.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
359.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
好歹這樣子吧 |