| IVOD_ID |
164866 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164866 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-30T10:39:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-30T10:50:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/480bc0daa4347f00e1ce28af7cc8980f8220506846d94b49935765bd47f54651b0ed05b3693a1b515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:39:05 - 10:50:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、中央銀行、法務部、內政部警政署就「虛擬資產服務法草案及其相關子法修訂暨建立完善監理架構之進程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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三商美幫人受了招親案這個消息滿天飛剛才很多委員也很關心然後從10月17號的深夜開始到28號的上午11個小時內三家公司陸續發布重訊 |
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市場也解讀說已經介入了最終的結局中信金的重訓是投標案已結束玉山金跟三商售強調對市場傳聞不予評論請教一下主委您知道說現在有關玉山金跟三商售的合併案的過程 您有瞭解嗎 |
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我想整個過程站在一個金融主管機關我們當然是全程掌握但是因為這麼一個案我們不方便透露其中的細節所以你有全程掌握就對了那當然好 那有全程掌握我就再請教了因為現在有兩個問題其實剛剛很多委員有在問但是我認為主委或是銀行局或是政情局都沒有答得很清楚就是說第一個 |
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到底董事会有没有授权这个溢价来投标如果说董事会有授权溢价跟投标是属于重大转投资的决议那依法应该要公告如果确定交易对象跟金额没有公告就违反了重训的规范第二个董事会至今尚未召开 |
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那如果出具呢 據法律約書裡的文件呢參與投標涉及到公司治理正當性的問題這兩個 一個就是有關這個是不是屬於這個重大的一個訊息要發布然後另外一個是涉及到公司治理的問題那請教這個主委啦第一個 他這個是不是涉及到這個重大的這個訊息必須要公佈因為後來是我們金管會去催他們 |
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他們才發布重大的訊息嗎金管會不會去催這個事情因為這是他跟交易所之間交易所對於在我這邊上市櫃的公司我要求他們再做一些資訊透明他這裡面有努力的非常非常多的了解所以是交易所去要求他們要發布訊息嗎對 所以說有 那外界有這個問題那主要是媒體報導以後我想我們也請交易所交易所也主動的去應該所以是你們請交易所交易所請他們那就差不多就是你們要要求的 |
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沒有 這本來交易所就該做我們是交易所的主管機關當然會請他去做而且我們也跟你講這個結果要請交易所對外說明對 那所以呢所以這個是不是要屬於要發布的重大訊息那他們沒有發布這個是不是重大訊息是由他們來判斷還是由交易所跟他們之間來說認定比如說那主委認不認為這個是重大的訊息 |
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我覺得我應該要這個情況的話我在這邊不方便去講不是 我們按照規定就按照這個相關的規定來看這個是不是很重大的訊息 |
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不過這個部分我剛才講說這個確實我這邊沒有辦法站在經管會立場去說明因為這個事實的情況非常非常複雜你也是監理機關嘛第一個我也沒有參與他們的協商我也沒有參與這個內容還有整個過程就是在我們想法裡面就很簡單這個合併案前面這個它是不是屬於51種上市公司必須公告的事項 |
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我想它裡面有一項說會有影響什麼什麼的這個對啊 對上市公司股東權益或證券價格有重大影響對不對這個牽涉到當時的判斷我想有關註券的發布那主委也應該是認為說是有影響才會叫證那個證交所再去因為輿論已經有媒體報導這邊市場這樣我們當然機器主管就說你是交易所是主政單位你當然要去處理對 這當然是啊這個我們 |
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我剛才幾位委員我也說過開記者會的時候政企局的副局長有說過這東西有爭議性證交所就會去查證那目前有查證嗎有啊那查證的結果是什麼沒有 我剛才講說交易所查證完他會對外說明那到現在三天的時間了那就我們會再請交易所進行查證所以這個要查多久啊 |
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這個我就會請交易所盡快去做證件這個我說已經三天了那作為這個金管會你是監理機關那你認為說是幾天查出來是合乎規定的沒有 我想交易所在處理這已經非常非常有經驗因為這個對 就像你講的其實規定都很清楚該不該發布這個重大訊息這其實都有規範那三天時間你們查不出來不是我們查是交易所我們會那那個政經局局長有去查嗎 |
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對 一樣我們剛才已經 剛才講而且交易所應該是有請他們不是 我請這個張局長打一下有去查嗎這個這一段在查核中的事情在查核中 哪時候會有結果等到事實的時間看到結果才能夠判斷什麼結果才能夠判斷我當然知道我的意思是說你們要多久的時間依照一般程序我們就會進行處理一般程序大概是幾天 |
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應該在一週內吧我再問一下主委 這個到底因為外界形容說這個是摸黑交易那個標題是媒體下的你是監理機關 你要做個說明那到底這個有沒有經過這個Binding offer有沒有經過董事會的授權 |
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我想在整個交易的過程當中有各種不同的授權的型態他們如果說這些他們是一個上市會公司他應該按照規定該怎麼對外說明就按照這個來說明不是 因為剛剛主委一直強調說這個公司都會這個有公司治理的相關規定他們都知道如果大家都知道也有遵守的話其實這個金管會也不用那麼辛苦了金管會的存在就是說對於公司治理有問題的地方你們要提出監管 |
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我們不會在一個事情我們完全沒有釐清的情況就在這邊先下結論所以剛剛講過我們是尊重他的體制因為這個重訓的發布不是做重訓的發布啦重訓發布是另外一個那另外一個就是說那到底 |
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這個董事會提出了這一個Binding offer有沒有經過這個董事會的決議或同意是這件事情因為涉及到公司治理的問題他們在協商的過程當中不需要跟主管機關說明這些事情我想說他們未來如果正式要送件他要仔細的說明他整個程序是符合的這時候他們就要自己要去所以他們送過來的時候你們就會去檢查說 |
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當初的這段過程到底有沒有經過董事會的決議就對了那所有的文件裡面應該要符合我們的規定假設比如說按照媒體的那個說明它是會按照金空法第26條裡面該送的文件所有的這些過去都非常那如果啦如果 |
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這個玉山金他們沒有舉行董事會但是相關的人員他提交具備法律約束力的這個交易價格跟換股比例的話你要這樣子這個最後也收購了那把這些資料送到金管會那這樣子有符合相關的規定嗎 |
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金管會的要求就是根據金控法假設是根據26條他必須董事會做成決議經過他們的股東大會決議雙方做成股份轉換契約書檢送相關的這些書件送金管會審查那所以如果沒有經過董事會決議 |
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對 它是必要的程序這個法條寫得非常清楚所以如果沒有開過董事會然後自行提交這些具有法律約束力的這個交易的價格那是像金管會送件的要求他們前面是他的協商程序對我意思就是說如果沒有經過董事會決議的話那這個程序有符合你們的標準嗎 |
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沒有 我剛才講說前面的部分是他們協商他最後送過來的時候他必須明確的完成公司治理的程序還有我們法規的要求的程序那所以有媒體形容這一段沒有經過董事會決議是摸黑交易那主委怎麼評論沒有 這應該是他們自己去澄清這是他們自己因為實際上這個這也不是要他們自己去澄清你作為監理機關你也有 |
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你有這個資格去要求我們沒有立場幫他代達這個問題你不是代達這個問題我要求的是一個市場秩序公司管理的問題沒有 如果他以後他的這些的不完備他當然不能送件而且送件我們也會提出質疑好 今天的書面報告包含內政部警政署主委有看過嗎有 |
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有 有看過對 那如果有看過這個我看了警政署 刑事檢察局他提到很多的困境那這些困境 這個有六點困境那第一個就是說這個金管會公佈已經不得提供虛擬資產服務的原來的這個就是沒有合格的這些洗錢防治法的這些業者他們後續的相關的資料 |
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也沒有規範要保存恐怕成為偵辦的斷點然後金管也要求VASP要定期通報使用的錢包地址但是不肖業者沒有如實申報然後警察機關也沒有VASP所屬錢包的地址的資料追求不法金流不知道向哪一家業者調閱資料 |
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然後這些如果是來自於境外高風險交易所這個業者也恐涉及申報虛假的資料然後沒有開立發票沒有按照實際的交易金額開立發票實際難以比對然後還有如果是大額交易通報的調閱只有匯款人的身分沒有以VASP公司為名的條件來調閱他們遇到這些困境主委要怎麼去處理 |
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沒有 我想這個警政署應該是善意的提醒善意的提醒因為我看他寫遭遇的困境我想說那利用這個機會讓你回答一下能不能解決這個第一線的偵辦人員的困境仔細看一下我們條文草案裡面其實這些比如說第一項的資料保存我明明已經寫得非常清楚要保存五年而且如果說涉犯這個糾紛要持續的保存我想這個都沒有問題對 還有像比如說剛剛那個發票的部分那是財政部的事情 |
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他要去做 他要去向大和申報那應該跟法務部調查局去做那我想這些部分 我覺得所以他遭遇的這六項困境都有辦法處理嗎可以處理 這些其實我們那規範裡面都有麻煩你給我一個書面資料好了好不好沒問題 這個其實規範裡面都有因為他們在現場 你沒有時間讓他們講 |
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如果他們講 因為他們在第一線遭遇到這些問題我想他們是善意的提醒 其實這裡面都有因為我們在開會都有邀請各個單位一起所以是他們沒有進入情況嗎不是 他是善意的提醒 希望說未來能夠強化這些東西你把書面資料給我其實未來規範其實都有好 沒關係 先把這個書面資料給我好 謝謝主委 謝謝委員好 謝謝主委 謝謝張偉霖接下來有請黃委員33直選 |