| IVOD_ID |
164839 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164839 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T11:40:10+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T11:46:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da518aded78b9ef22de1b08d4a2736e01e2b1e9be59762a4979ed690d3a913060f315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:40:10 - 11:46:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查：
行政院函請審議、本院委員王美惠等20人、委員李坤城等18人、委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人、委員賴瑞隆等16人、委員羅美玲等19人、委員賴惠員等21人、委員黃捷等22人、委員陳亭妃等17人、委員邱鎮軍等21人及委員吳沛憶等16人分別擬具「電業法第七十一條之一條文修正草案」。
二、審查：
行政院函請審議、本院委員王美惠等20人、委員李坤城等18人、委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人、委員賴瑞隆等16人、委員羅美玲等19人、委員賴惠員等21人、委員黃捷等22人、委員陳亭妃等17人、委員邱鎮軍等24人及委員吳沛憶等16人分別擬具「天然氣事業法第五十五條之一條文修正草案」條文對照表。
三、審查：
行政院函請審議、本院委員王美惠等19人、委員李坤城等18人、委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人、委員羅美玲等19人、委員賴惠員等21人、委員黃捷等22人、委員陳亭妃等17人、委員吳沛憶等16人分別擬具「自來水法第九十七條之一條文修正草案」及委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「自來水法第三條、第十六條之一及第九十七條之一條文修正草案」條文對照表。
以上全案於10月29日（星期三）進行合併詢答，10月30日（星期四）處理。
【10月29日及30日二天一次會】（請參閱開會通知單及議程）） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請經濟部的工部長 台電的長官有請部長還有我們台電總經理 謝謝兩位長官好我們都很清楚台灣的用電其實非常吃緊你看到國外都是這樣來看美僑商會 |
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美僑商會 你可以看美國商會American Chairman Taiwan在6月份發布的《2025台灣白皮書》台灣人員議題已經取代法規的改革成為會員企業首要的關切商會表示核電退場 |
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燃煤發電下降天然氣價格又受全球這個市場的波動影響加上綠能裝岸延宕主管機關重疊讓台灣高耗能的產業面臨投資風險 |
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這是美國商會今年6月提出來的就大家都知道 普遍都知道只有你們經濟部長官台電長官在講不缺電了 不缺電了 可是大家都知道台灣的用電其實是吃緊的吃緊的 我就請教這個看誰要回答啦 部長你要不要回答還是台電要不要回答綠能目前佔我們的發電的比重多少綠能 綠能 綠能 綠能 |
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到去年為止到今年的話1到8月大概占12點11點9啦這裡面資料是11點9啦2016到多少11點9是去年的去年那今年到12是吧 |
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到目前到8月我們同意到8月大概12點多那可能到年底我們還會再觀察陸續大概有一些風力發電跟這個太陽光電會提上來為了虛幻的揮霍家園都很清楚嘛台灣的環境已經被破壞的殆盡了水庫上面蓋太陽能板你要不要告訴我哪一個水庫沒有蓋現在現在我們只有6座水庫蓋那其他都沒有蓋總共幾個水庫 |
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我們總共幾個水庫報告委員有95座水庫95座水庫6座哪6座有蓋供電板報告委員我們現在手上資料是有烏山頭水庫烏山頭水庫阿公店水庫阿公店水庫還有三個比較小的一個是鹽水坪內浦坪內浦坪還有一個金門的金湖 |
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對 你們的規劃未來還會不會在水庫上面再蓋關鍵板未來還要不要目前沒有申請案件誰申請對 剛剛特別再報告一下剛剛5座才加一個鳳山水庫所以總共是6座總共6座是發電量多少發電量總共現在是大概29MW那佔比例呢 佔我們總發電量多少 |
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非常非常小非常小啊我覺得這個答案啦非常小的發電量部長啊這值得嗎把台灣的整個生態全部破壞掉水庫破壞 農地破壞 漁運破壞為了你們的這個虛無縹緲的一個非核家園把整個生態環境都這樣破壞你覺得值得嗎再生能源的發展跟非不非核好像沒有關係就是因為你們要拼命蓋 |
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為了廢核所以要光電要封建啊光電太陽能就上去了啦將來即便能源如果重啟或者是有新的核能太陽能光電還是會持續做啊但是你不要破壞水庫嘛你不要破壞餘溫嘛 |
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魚 那魚都死掉 怎麼會被破壞對不對 魚 什麼魚電共生結果是魚死了 電有了變這樣子啊 清楚的看得到 你說沒有來 你們原來講的河山要嚴厲是不是河山要嚴厲 有沒有 |
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因為這個命題就是現在到了就是可能會自我檢查階段因為法已經公布了法都公布了可以嚴厲可能我們台電會開始做自我檢查來台電講一下時間表好不好河山廠怎麼因應的時間表跟委員報告我們現在的程序是先做現況評估 |
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那我們現況評估在10月13號已經把這個的評估的報告送到我時間到了快點講那接著呢這個做完之後如果說確實說可以往下走的話我們河山會先做再運轉計畫等等的這些程序到最後河山場如果真的可以用到什麼要多久時間啊 |
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因為有些變數不是台電能掌握的一切如果順利 三年夠不夠順利 一切都順利 三年夠不夠大概3.5年吧3.5年 好 最後一個小問題來 我們看 有一家廠 因為現在台電 |
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台電這個都會要廠商如果來投資的話會要他提出一個用電計畫廠商用電計畫然後台電就跟他講供電的時程我所了解的現在有一家廠商就要申請結果你們看說最快兩年以後才能夠正常供電人家就離開了 |
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這個東西就代表你們供電吃緊了這個阿曼妮跟簽名講的是對的啊美國商會跟委員報告其實他這個我不知道是哪個案例不知道是哪個案例因為我們每天的你們每天在拒絕人家就是因為你們電不夠人家跑掉了一家一家跑掉了因為有一些可能會牽涉到輸電線要建設需要一點時間你們現在我查了你們現在台電就會有供電時程最快兩年後 |
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所以目前北部非常吃緊我們這話結束北部非常吃緊所以幾乎北部的要在北部投資的通通被你們打槍這才是目前最嚴重的問題跟委員報告要看個案的狀況你現在再跟我報告我告訴你哪一家廠商我這裡不願意講好 謝謝 |