| IVOD_ID |
164835 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164835 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T12:47:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T12:56:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da51911f4251277bdc67c033660070f94f421e9be59762a4979eaec69ac5727ffa9d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:47:05 - 12:56:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司董事長及勞動部就「臺鐵各地車站旅客安全措施檢討、改善員工職場安全及勞動條件」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請交通部部長及交通部鐵道局局長就「全台軌道建設進度」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月27日、29日及30日三天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席楊群發言再邀請部長請陳部長午安好 |
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部長好 台鐵員工被攻擊的事件頻傳被打 被辱罵 被施壓 甚至被掐脖子那麼在我們文明的國家裡頭有這樣的事件實在是一個恥辱那為什麼我們看不到改變呢因為我們看到數字這些是沒有在減少的 |
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尤其在這半年當中有七成有被這樣子的攻擊事件那我們的招委孟凱招委他非常的關心這個議題所以去年的時候我們也一起開過記者會我們提出了方案希望政府去精進那對於台鐵的站務人員基層員工在執勤時一再也受到了這個恐嚇 |
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攻擊都沒有提出這個有效的方案所以讓問題一直反覆在重演所以我們也想要請教你們研議到今你認為會重複接連的發生的原因是什麼請說明 |
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報告委員會一再的發生當然旅客做這樣不理性的事情我們公司台鐵公司一定會站在員工的立場來保護員工那幾個方面一個方面在法律的追溯方面公司也已經有專案了來 |
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協助員工在法律上面訴求來保護自己的權益這一方面那二方面我們當然也跟鐵路警察這邊有來做溝通拜託他們能夠協助在治安的方面因為台鐵公司本身負責營運但是治安的部分還是要拜託鐵路警察這方面來協助那另外呢針對也有員工在討論說要不要裝密錄器來保護員工那但是現在有一些員工是覺得不需要 |
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這是你之前在說的但是我們認為說絕不允許有任何人遭受這樣的職場對待這個方向是一致的這個沒有錯所以過去有發了密錄器有偵派了警察來巡邏保全人力這些SOP流程但是問題本席要請教 |
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你所謂的要警察這個鐵路警察來協助那你們到底進度是如何因為我們結果論不希望看到一而再再而三的這個事件來發生比如說我們增加警察的據點台鐵聘請這個保全人員迅速可以把這個治安的死角有所幫助這些啟動你們是不是有在檢討呢 |
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是跟委員報告這些都有在檢討那什麼時候要出來呢什麼時候要出來呢因為數字告訴我們他沒有減少反而增加你們都有在檢討你們的經經方案什麼時候會出來呢跟委員報告跟這個鐵井之間的這個聯繫我們已經有一個共識就是說增加這個鐵井的他用這個跨域的這個方式來增加那個見景率那目前從5月開始已經開始執行了 |
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好 那請你們把你們精進的方案書面資料給本席那所以一個結論也就是說今天委員都有提出這個修法對於鐵路法的修法針對於旅客暴力攻擊跟重罰那麼新增強暴 |
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脅迫恐嚇或其他非法的這個方法呢那麼我們要新增了圖形跟法徑這個方向是不是部長你同意跟委員報告如果是可以保護員工的方向我都會來支持你都會同意齁那請教在法治上面的強度到哪裡我們還要跟我們法治大會來討論所以方向是一致那請教行政院會有版本嗎 |
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你會有願版嗎我們目前沒有研議版本你看 你們為什麼不研議民眾這麼迫切關注的所以你必須要去研議這本席跟你建議接下來本席要跟你討論的我們台中高鐵特區114年1月8號我在這裡 |
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又質詢我說我們的這個高鐵增加北站的這個北台中的這個站那麼當時呢次長到這邊來質詢他同意要去這個評估那現在評估的進度怎麼樣呢台中的北站對評估的進度如何呢 |
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跟委員報告台中高鐵的 你們是答應說你們要去評估 你點頭我們有做過評估就是說就技術上 評估方向出來了嗎就技術上來說目前要在高鐵營運中的路線新增車站有系統上技術的困難 |
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沒關係你把你們評估因為本席絕對會在追蹤我們所提出的方案那你們評估出來應該要將你們的評估報告不管是如何要送請要給我們為什麼不給呢你們什麼時候評估出來評估出來了嗎那這個是正式在交通委員會耶評估了沒有 |
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出來的沒有有評估那你把評估的書面是要給本席所以請你們也要好好努力那接下來本席要問部長2700萬人次在進駐一年在台中站那你交通部針對國一新增閘道連結高鐵特區你們怎麼協助呢 |
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你們怎麼協助這個目前可行性研究的這個費用我們有請這個鐵道局跟我們當時有標到這個要發展這個地區的那個廠商請他們補助給台中市那目前也已經補助給他是多少錢700多萬還是廠商補助700萬給台中市做整體規劃 |
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那這個國一新增閘道的部分是由鐵道局補助給台中市政府他們也已經在辦理另案的這個可行性研究評估當中預計下個月就可以提出報告下個月提出報告因為台中市政府要提出報告所以部長你也台中來的你也擔任過我們的市議員 |
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高鐵特區是鐵道局台中市政府努力的在協助所以我要求我們交通部一定好好的要來努力接下來我本期要跟你討論台74線預留新街的閘道我們當時在興建的時候74線已經有預留已經有預留有這個銜接口 |
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那現在每天都在塞你當時就已經有預留了你應該就不用再評估啦就趕快迅速加強他的改善措施啊報仁 當時的計畫已經結束了所以現在台中市政府必須提出他的評估需求好 你說他的什麼改 結束了 |
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之前我們的高鐵的那個站的建設的計畫已經結束了建設的計畫結束了但是當時你有預留這個銜接口嘛對不對所以交通部你應該要好好的來協助啊你來自台中啊 |
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我們都有在協助但是台中市政府該走的程序他要走台中市政府努力的在走啊所以怎麼沒有在走他要來提要求啊他努力的在走我們委員也不斷在會堪耶他的程序上必須要走所以我在這邊慎重的建起要求一定要好好協助因為現在我們知道在台中高鐵特區那裡每天塞的很嚴重對不對 |
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每天塞得很嚴重所以最後我還是要請這個部長你如果是台中市的當時你是議員你全力的也來推動我們的捷運嘛對不對那現在你照法定規定我們的補助照分配你明年要給我們42億委員這不是照規定這完全沒有照規定這個完全沒有照規定 |
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來你現在只有用才化法來做藉口所以你本來要給我們40%而已你現在大砍96%你中央只要給1.61%我相信如果你還是台中市議會你絕對不同意對不對所以我希望你現在更身為台中你現在更 |
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是交通部長你更應當要支持台中的交通建設如果台中的需求是60億他只要編40億中央是20幾億結果他要求中央出40幾億如果沒有如此怎麼會有這個數字出來委員細節您都不瞭解怎麼不瞭解你好好去審思該當協助的尤其你來到台中你更應當要好好協助好不好我們都在協助好就你這句話一定要好好協助謝謝 |
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謝謝委員 |