| IVOD_ID |
164831 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164831 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T12:42:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T13:02:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:19:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da51a39ee131ff83c32f14a9ab9b55a87a241e9be59762a4979e84ce2c86cf23990f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:42:44 - 13:02:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：（上午9時起）
邀請環境部部長、衛生福利部、農業部、經濟部、教育部、國防部就「防範非洲豬瘟疫情擴散，強化全國廚餘去化問題以及後續防疫、清消等作為」提出專題報告，並備質詢。
（下午2時起。若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開）
一、繼續審查行政院函請審議「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員廖先翔等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法第三十五條條文修正草案」、委員牛煦庭等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四十九條條文修正草案」、委員李昆澤等26人擬具「職業安全衛生法第三十九條及第四十九條條文修正草案」、委員魯明哲等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四十條條文修正草案」、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員林淑芬等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四十三條條文修正草案」、委員楊曜等22人擬具「職業安全衛生法第六條條文修正草案」、委員李昆澤等27人、委員黃秀芳等21人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員翁曉玲等23人擬具「職業安全衛生法第三十五條、第三十九條及第四十九條條文修正草案」、委員范雲等18人、委員劉建國等17人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員吳琪銘等18人擬具「職業安全衛生法第六條條文修正草案」、委員沈發惠等18人、委員王育敏等19人、委員王育敏等25人擬、委員郭國文等17人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」、委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法第四條條文修正草案」、委員郭昱晴等17人、委員羅廷瑋等18人分別擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、審查
（一）委員王正旭等23人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員吳沛憶等19人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員莊瑞雄等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法第九條條文修草案」案。
（四）委員林月琴等21人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條修正草案」案。
（五）委員林淑芬等21人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員邱鎮軍等22人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員徐富癸等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員黃捷等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案」案。
【二、(三)至(七)案，如經復議則不予審查；二、(八)至(十)案，如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書不予審查】【逐條討論】
【10月29日及10月30日，二天一次會】） |
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好 下一位請劉建和委員發言謝謝主席 先請彭部長有請彭部長委員好部長好 部長辛苦了一早到現在 我想還是有人多忙點 |
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我聽起來的感覺是這樣那我簡單講說27號的時候這個非洲豬瘟這個被發現的養豬場有在驗出兩處的環境病毒顯示是陽性那台中市又匆匆忙忙的去加強消毒然後這種事一再發生實在會讓人家感到非常憤怒我覺得這個要徹底的去要求甚至以強力的去介入因為清消不是兒戲 |
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中央應該是要強力的去把他接管起來昨天這個中華民國養豬協會的潘理事長帶了全國的所有這些應該是協會的幹部代表各縣市的來拜訪不管是民進黨團還是國民黨團的立院相關的同仁又特別指出公開的講在暗場中像水桶 雨鞋等器具物品都還留在現場沒有立即焚化 清除掉這是不是真的 |
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部長有掌握嗎 這個要請農業部他們那個 防潔局那就請部長 請陳部長這夠有屬性 這應該屬性吧 |
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對 這是事實這也是為什麼我們認為他們在做第一階段疫場的消毒是最重要的但是並沒有落實消毒這個部分因為招槍的規定這些東西都要去做銷毀的部分所以我們也要求市政府這邊要盡速的再次消毒 再次檢查因為已經20天了 |
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對不起 從20號發生到現在嘛 對不對到昨天還讓潘理事長到國會殿堂再拜會相關黨團是為了因應整個養豬產業受到後續的這樣的衝擊嘛然後還發覺到這問題 還公開的來訴諸媒體我覺得這個台中養豬應該我記得好像是八萬多頭嘛 對不對 |
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他佔的比例 全國的比例是非常少的喔這是第一件事情那第二件事情那邊有一所大學國立的中興大學也有畜牧系 |
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怎麼會有這種事情一而再再而三的發生部長要不要請中興大學畜牧區過去那邊協助他們不然大家會疲於奔命去做這相關的因應吧我跟委員講喔就是說台中市政府這些利是要掉的有一些餘地我們一再也特別請專家專家的會議的小組的 |
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的老師或成員來協助他們去做進行必要的疫調這個部分我們都做了所以我們為了搶時間我們可能要有另外一個作為要盡速的把這個這個必須釐清的趕快釐清這個我們會來處理盡速做疫調這是基本你知道剛剛的黃衣記者會你知道中央的後勤組還在教台中市政府怎麼如何做這快速的清消你們有掌握嗎 |
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教他們如何先移除雜物 然後由上而下的清消方式我跟委員報告 你剛才一開始的照片就是說我們認為他已經完成 完整的清消我們是做第二輪的環境的檢測結果一開門以後發現到他裡面都是亂七八糟的沒有去做好我們的完整的清消所以才會再去教他們怎麼樣做清消 |
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所以你自己答覆我就講得很清楚嘛第一次的傾銷已經完成了那代表第一次的傾銷完成但不完整嘛應該是這麼說嘛所以才有勞27號就是昨天那個潘玲周理事長來國會殿堂特別再提到這個事情嘛 |
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這不應該是這個樣子啊那顯然佔了全國八萬多頭的一個台中市政府在管理整個畜牧場本身就有很嚴重的這樣一個問題的存在嘛然後遇到這樣的事情的緊急因應連一個清消到現在都沒有辦法做得非常徹底嘛那你中央不強力介入你還要待何時還要待什麼樣的方式去做處理 |
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我想我們今天就會有一些作為就是來更快速因為我們在跟時間賽跑所以我們今天應該有一個作為就是能夠更積極的我們就是在跟時間賽跑才不可能說完整的去清消但是卻清消不完全就不容許這樣的事情發生啊絕對不容許啦對啊那這就發生了對 |
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就發生了啊所以你專案就必須要強力的介入嘛強力的看怎麼去講白一點甚至接管我們今天就會比較強力的去處理這個疫調相關的這個工作包括這個案場本身的這些所有的關聯跟調查的部分我們今天就會來處理好部長你先請回好不好我先針對環境部來討論啦齁剛剛是針對清消然後 |
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因為部長剛剛有答覆幾個問題啦二十四日的時候我們這個台中市政府有提出挖坑掩埋堆毀的方法嘛對不對然後在藍屯的文山掩埋場後梨沙鹿物荒等設置廚餘緊急堆毀地點嘛我們從當然是從媒體的報導裡面去看看到照片看到影片台中市政府就是挖一個洞嘛然後就是往廚餘就是把廚餘往裡面倒嘛這個堆毀 |
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報告委員這個是不可以的所以我們那天禮拜天的時候就有特別提醒他我們那個副署長有到現場我們中央怎麼容許這種事情讓它一再發生你們堆毀有相關的一些基本的這個規範嘛對不對堆積廠的基礎結構要防腐抗死材料的表面地表要有防護的設備以及污染防治設備另外發酵中心溫度必須要在45到70度 |
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那時間還要控制在五十度至少七天以防止這個蟲卵病菌達到殺菌的效果嘛是 沒有錯嘛 沒錯 這裡都有蟲嘛對 他們都不可以這樣做嘛 沒錯副書長落後 結果是怎樣結果 結果從同意讓他們 就是就地掩埋 |
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因為他說他是堆肥廠啦他說他做堆肥啦可是他在掩埋場裡面做堆肥就不符合委員提到這個這個標準所以我們就要求他要改善啦就是胡搞瞎搞嘛對不對胡搞瞎搞之後如果要依照你環境部的標準10公尺次10公尺的掩埋掩埋坑進行掩埋且除以每日到近0.5公尺就必須要護土啊然後台中市的坑有10乘10嗎很大 幾十米 |
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幾十米啊 就不符合標準啊那不符合標準的時候副組長下去之後是做怎麼樣的一個督導要求他們怎麼樣做力氣的改善時差一時 現在部長在委員會公開講是好幾十米這麼大的一個場域裡面已經不符合你們的規範了啊你們應怎麼處理 |
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所以環境部 |
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不直接進駐 直接強力的去督促督導這事情會從堆毀變掩埋 掩埋又變成文化就一日三變 還是幾天變一次那環境部的 環境部 環境部辦理的角色又是什麼我會覺得就很納悶了啊 |
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這就有問題啊我們是這個督導的一個機關督導機關這樣就是有督不導啊有有有我們就希望他改善我們希望他改善然後甚至如果說你這個沒有辦法做好是不是需要一些我們的幫忙我們都主動向他們提出一個這樣的一個表達 |
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廚餘含水量高啦 我們都很清楚嘛他其實去利用混化的這樣的一個方式對混化爐造成的這樣的一個傷害 甚至於混化不完全然後溫度會下降到可能百度以上 也不一定啦那 我不清楚為什麼環境部可以容許台中市政府去做這樣廚餘的處置方式一下子堆毀 一下子掩埋一下子要到混化爐去混化 |
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跟委員報告齁 因為這個到掩埋場或是到焚化場都是一個緊急的緊急的措施啦齁那因為現在台中市它的一個整個一個堆灰廠的一個量能也不夠所以才用這個緊急的一個方式來處置 這個是短期那長期的話應該就是朝比較正常的管道去我當然是知道短期啊 就是緊急應變嘛 對不對短期又進行應變 但是它的短期又緊急應變這七天 它就出頭十出啦 |
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所以剛剛有幾個委員 包含自民黨的委員都對環境部有不一樣的一個要求跟看法嘛所以我才想說你還要繼續這樣下去連那個清消 連那個處理的一個緊急應變的處置方式都可以這樣的一個七天內這麼多的一個變化部長 我覺得你可能要 |
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要承擔起更大的責任 不然這個事情謝謝委員的建議 我們的確是在思考這個問題啦因為他們的這個方法或量能是不是有一些狀況但是因為也跟委員報告因為包含他的整個掩埋的措施或是各種的這個機具都是地方政府的 |
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所以未來我們也今天早上特別請我們署長到台中希望可以跟他們協商一下到底需要什麼樣的幫忙我們要如何去幫忙他們能夠解決這個事的問題我們主動的去希望可以來改善啦麻煩啦好不好就直接應該是副署長就直接建築在這個地方不用回來備選了我講真的 |
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我講真的不然明天又有什麼事情發生你還是要再下去不過因為報告委員喔因為像我們在花蓮的時候也有這個經驗我們基本上都是第一線在處理可是台中其實它是不一樣的它這個掩埋場各種的設施都是環保局在直接去處理的那到底我們可以協助幫忙到多少這個在法規上面我們還要再確認一下那我們的確有在想思考這個事情如何幫台中市民的忙 |
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我覺得現在對不起部長可能要請你修正你的說法這不叫做幫忙了因為這種事情如果再讓他有這種擴大的傷害的情況之下我想只要是政府單位沒有一個人可以可以推卸這樣的一個責任對不對所以我是希望可能該主動的該積極介入的中央應該承擔起更大的責任來面對這個事情好不好然後再來 |
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你看2018年全球爆發這個非洲豬瘟嘛那台灣有些地方是禁足於養豬啦但是禁足於養豬他有一定程度的這樣的一個配套跟條件的情況之下他才有辦法做我們要講永續我們要講整個循環每一個環節他都必須要有一定的條件跟建制嘛然後你看日本我們剛剛很多委員都講講到依照日本日本獵人的這個食品業匯聚了再利用情形 |
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他還訂了一套叫食品回收法這個事情怎麼是農業部去取信而已 環境部怎麼不用去日本食品回收法是農民水產省與他們的環境省花部會共同來組織建立一個非常嚴謹的落實食品回收並且製成這安全優質的畜牧飼料所以我覺得環境部是不是應該跟農業部一起 |
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取經研究把這樣相關的一個制度透過法律制定出來可不可以 部長謝謝委員可以喔因為疫情開始第一天這個清晨陳部長打電話給我我跟他每天都通電話十幾通喔所以我跟他們是非常暢通會來處理的那這個問題呢我相信我們環境部跟農業部會協議的合作來解決這個問題 |
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有很多事情啦是 因為部隊也要再接很多委員你們做部隊也要再接很多委員在台內你們兩個同時幾通這代表很多制度 很多行為都處理得不是太順利喔不然有需要經常打多少通沒有 因為那個未來的挑戰很大啦我知道你們已經 我知道你們已經很忙了啦但是你先從打到打到四多通那代表溝通也不是很順暢那個彼此對事情的認知可能落差也蠻蠻恐怖的才會造成一天要打四多通不不不 這代表我們很密切啦 |
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就是密切啊 密切過度了有些事情可能就很難推了所以這個部分是不是一個星期內啦 能不能給我們一個當然剛剛陳副長講到是希望整個這個我們建宅的15天過後整個疫情解除之後來處理啦但是我還是希望可以加快啦 好不好就是 |
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兩個禮拜可以嗎 因為兩個禮拜還在 三個禮拜一個月好不好 您就很密切啊 哪有差因為我跟很多同事也很忙的 一個月好不好是啦 不是跟你們很忙的 大家都很忙的好 補充車位一個月 補充車站補充一下喔 抱歉 陳部長陳部長知道全國投胎廠現在有供給市市機場嗎 |
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土宅場沒有記錯的話55場養雞養鴨養牛177嘛對不對那177你知道114年度的時候我們禁用有這個受惠17人助理14人合計31人但114年離職受惠有11人助理26人合計37人我掌握到數字這數字正不正確怎麼會這樣 |
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這個數字根據我們同仁說是正確的怎麼會有不到一個年度你只11個獸醫然後助理26個人 合計37人這個就是我們一直在對獸醫師本身因為現在獸醫師你可以去當寵物醫院的醫師那相對他的薪水比較高但是對經濟動物的這些獸醫師的話相對的工作比較辛苦所以我們也一直積極爭取他的一個不開業獎金的部分但是顯然 |
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我們從高考端是有增加啦但是在限職端的部分可能還有是還是有比較高的離職率這怎麼是討論潮呢 你有感覺嗎 |
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這很恐怖嘛 你來前八十四年都健康 健康的臨床是這樣阿你開的 差不多跟健康差六個 又加六個你們總共加起來是 還有六個那這樣可能我們在整個防疫的 還是預防的情況之下都會有很大的挑戰嘛 對不對 |
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所以就要請部長可能是不是短時間內也一樣吧一個月內能不能提出相關的一些改善報告好 可以吧我們這個把這個相關的改善可能我們要特別重視這種不管是養殖場還是屠宰場的獸醫師的相關人員的福利啦跟他們的一些制度上的一個保障這不只是獸醫師其實針對畜牧的公職的人員現在都很怕很怕進到公職單位 |
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我講這是一個系統性的問題我們必須要嚴肅的面對啦好 我最後再請教部長 |
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5天再延10天嘛 淨運淨宅那一定會造成整個養豬戀的很大的衝擊嘛那昨天我們有跟我們有跟市長等相關農政單位的這些長官有開過會那我們也適時的反應 包含這個盤里市長都來了嘛特別提出了一些反應 |
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那我們知道當然已經有研擬一些配套來做因應嘛這幾項你看還有什麼不處之處就是禁運禁載期間的飼料補助嘛停載期間的這個屠宰性的租金停載期間的人事及勞務費用相關的攤商人員收入損失還有在這期間使用的租資補貼15日如果順利解禁到時15天禁運禁載的租一口氣釋出嘛 當然不可能啦也會造成這個價格的波動 保價 |
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要怎麼去做一個調解跟應應嘛然後還有使用豬肉的這個小吃攤商 這應該屬於經濟部的肉雞啦 空肉飯嘛 肉肉飯訂就對了 |
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我跟委員報告 您講的這七項本身那大致上 應該是不計啦大致上跟我們的 但是這邊要稍微說明在這段時間死亡的豬隻補貼的部分可能有一些前提啦對 這個前提我們到時候幫案出來不是說 你想想有事我就報啦可能有一些前提的話 這個會來處理那解禁的部分 我們現在沒有辦法去做保駕但是我們一定是會讓這個 |
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進到批發市場的次序要維持然後確保它的一個價格的穩定以這個為目標之下去做所有的可能的調度啦大概會這樣子那最後豬肉的小吃攤商齁 |
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小吃攤商這個現在還在討論因為小吃攤他可能只有有賣豬肉的有賣雞肉的有賣什麼的在處理上是很難去界定的不過我想大部分的這個部分都是委員這邊建議我想我們都在我們的方案裡面 |
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因為葡萄園很清楚 消防司長也很清楚那天我也在那邊說你原本你第一次到差不多八公斤之後就可以出來了對不對你現在五十五出他還給十五天的治療現在又給十五天的治療那這麼低的 |
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會基建大廈啦 基建大廈如果同樣地在大廈的環境下不要說地雷連人也同樣地移水對不對我們這邊如果人比較多空氣汙染就會提高了嘛 對不對好 那到時候可能會有擠壓擠破對不對 豬也會因為這樣子躁動生病 甚至於死亡好 那這個我們應該有相關的一些配套 |
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來做因應 甚至於支持這些養豬戶嘛對不對 然後剛才15天拍賣的時候那個豬已經變得原本不是一般我們在拍賣豬的特別想要選擇這樣的一個段位啦對 那個價格一定會不一樣嘛會往下掉嘛第一 價格比較高但是價格稍微會下跌就對了對啊 這地方的配套 |
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1171.696 |
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我想我們在租現在禁運的時間我們會針對相關的飼料做一些補貼然後後來以後出租的時候重量越大它的單價越低所以我們會維持一個基本的一個監控價那在這個監控價以下的時候我們就會啟動一些調度跟調節 |
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1174.038 |
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1184.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
好 謝謝就請部長盡量把讓這些相關的養豬的產業的這樣的一個損害可以降到最低的好不好謝謝 部長辛苦謝謝主席好 謝謝劉建國 趙偉的發言也謝謝部長們的回答 |