| IVOD_ID |
164813 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164813 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T10:01:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T10:13:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da515de574d9b418eade198a631d8f132014a1aee410a7bf192fb22339bbe58c964b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
麥玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:01:56 - 10:13:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、內政部警政署署長、內政部移民署署長、海洋委員會海巡署署長、農業部部長、財政部關務署署長，就「防堵非洲豬瘟邊境檢疫與查緝機制之檢討與精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查委員徐巧芯等16人擬具「海岸巡防法第十三條條文修正草案」案。
【法律案僅詢答】
【10月29日及30日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席有請農業部還有關務署請以上單位早想請教一下目前這起就是非洲豬瘟的病毒源頭查到了嗎 |
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員頭目前還在調查中因為在台中市政府他們所提的這個疫調的一個報告裡面還是都沒有交代清楚所以下個階段從今天起我們這個我們要問的是你們中央的事情專家會議結束 |
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依照農業部的指定的防疫SOP中央與地方應該依序啟動哪些通報還有採樣隔離與回報的程序才要請教我們的台中這個案例的通報流程是否有哪一些環境沒有依據SOP的執行 |
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我們檢視了他們目前的作為上來講那台中市政府在於我們警示系統異常然後通報的時候他們就第一時間的時候的回報的系統其實不是很完整而且沒有提高警覺所以他們沒有照SOP的執行是這樣子的意思嗎應該是說他們的這個 |
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對 應該是誤目前如果推估起來應該是誤判啦因為確實他是呈現的是陽性但是過去他可能我們大家是當作是一般的傳染病一般的疾病在做處理是好 雖然你們是監督的單位我們要來監督你們你們要監督的單位你們的工作既然防疫SOP的運作 |
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有部分正常有部分就覺得不正常是你們就是我們要今天要來問你們的你們要監督的工作啦所以你剛才說的嘛防疫做一直都有持續 |
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但是有一些你們覺得說沒有監督不好是不是台中的問題是你們的監督是台中的問題所以你的意思是說你們的SOP的執行的監督都很好了是不是他應該是要依照我們的一般的SOP的流程在走所以你就是說有持續嘛所以我們要確認一下說你這些的前期防護措施是近三年來有沒有出現 |
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地檢的情形我們想要知道的不要只說台中怎麼樣台中怎麼樣我們要問的是我們的中央的監督 |
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我們都有我們的流程就是不管在肉品上在豬場上他的一般的防疫的以及我們的監控的都給你說的你們這是說這三年來沒有出現一些就是遞減的情形講得很好如果有的話比如說我們的宣傳的次數 |
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還有邊間查檢的件數抽查的頻率這些的指標是增加還是持平還是說逐年減少能否提供具體的數據給我呢 |
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不能用講的 不能說電視的講 報紙的講 白人的講這樣來講 不能這樣 要有具體的是 我們會把我們的次數包括經費的部分也會來反映不過確實是經費上是有有有刪減那事實上但是我們也沒有疏忽啦就是依照我們現有的我們現在要的就是用更強力去做 |
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還有監數 還有就是頻率這一些要有數據 具體的數據不要在頭腦裡面都緊急急急這個是你們該做的工作 不要再想再講這些了 |
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這個是有具體的嘛所以你說事後就會提供是嗎所以現在你沒有具體的這個工作我們要執行我們要執行我們要做功課你來背執行你都不做功課你都要提供資料而已嗎我們要的是你要了解所以最近網路 |
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網路上也有很多側翼幫你們宣傳因為立法院善預算所以防疫的宣傳不足才導致破口請問一下你們有觀察到哪個部分防疫的宣傳確實不足嗎還是說印了太少我們的宣傳彈還有海報廣告 |
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因為預算有停止嗎還有我們邊境的積查抽查旅客的行李包裹這個頻率有沒有因為預算刪除降低了呢報告委員我們該做的都是有去做而且這個的整個防疫的工作其實是沒有降低的 |
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好都沒有降低嗎沒有降低的不管我們是中央跟地方所以你們做得很好嗎不是做得很好就是大家都知道因為畢竟這已經守護了7年所以有他的一定的基本的流程但要注意的是像包括他的監測這些都照我們原來的年度目標在走所以這些就是你們的這些側翼就是你們每天都在講預算刪除我們的預算 |
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六億多三兩千還有五億多所以我們就是做不了了所以來再來呢我們在網路特別查到就是防疫署的官網裡面的宣傳影片上架已經五年了到現在只有三到四百個觀看率五年平均約五 |
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四五天只有一個人觀看這樣子叫做做得很好很有效率是嗎所以甚至我們在越南版的非洲非洲主義的宣傳的動畫還變成私人的影片沒辦法看這樣子的請教一下這樣的預算做宣傳很有效率嗎 |
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5億多 上了2000萬 你們做這個很有效率所以你們要持續在做報告委員 您檢視的是108年可是以今年來講 我們的宣傳影片在今年的暑假放了一支放了一支 現在網路上看到的就是這個數據不是我們是7年前的 是現在的現在網路搜尋的 我沒有在7年前當立委這個是現在 這是108年的 |
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2008年的你們要做這個影片到現在就是這個數據我們有新的新的版本新的版本我們沒有看到看到網路就是這個好那我們可以提供新的版本給委員表示你們在宣傳不夠網路才沒有看到我們看到的是這個看到就是 |
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就是這樣子的一個問題所以我們非洲族人一直在我們也肯定我們的農業部還有關屋署這幾年守住防線的努力但我們注意到的是說我們行政部門每次出事就先喊說要團結 |
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接著又要說車一一起就是怪我們的立法院怪這野黨所以我們這樣的操作防疫真的有幫助嗎真的沒有幫助我們要的是效果我們要提出的問題要解決問題不是說你們都是要去怪別人都別人的事不是你們的事沒有啦委員我們坐地沒有 |
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所以我們第一時間的時候大家一起看要怎麼來解決這個問題而且都緊急 措施都出來所以我們大家的影響都沒有用到一點點所以剛才才說你不要再去講說什麼善意善事實上沒有沒有 這絕對也不是我們部門或農部來說明也不能怪說什麼立法院在野黨我們是為了要執行我們的監督權所以呢但是委員 |
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預算充足當然我們會比較好做因為我們時間的關係我們是監督你們你們要監督地方所以我們要要求你們的預算你們要很多的你們的預算拿過來我們要監督要來去說我們要動預算希望你們要把事情做好但是從5月份我們已經解凍了 |
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到現在所以你們有沒有加強這個宣傳嗎這個才是我們想要的不要再去講預算也沒有問題是預算的問題所以你們這講的做得很好所以我們這邊最後因為時間的關係我們要強調的防疫 |
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是行政部門的責任也是我們的人民的事情不分藍綠所以我們不分中央或地方我們要在野黨的凍結我們的預算是要行政單位要檢討制度因為我們從基層來的我們看到你們的預算一張一千萬兩張兩千萬基層的一本厚號才五萬三萬所以我們真的看了就是 |
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很難過啦確實要有效益啦所以不只就是防疫真正的檢討是說我們的執行的機制還有 |
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制度的落動不是拿政治口水轉移焦點希望行政團隊要停止帶風向實際盤點這次的破口讓我們的人民安心也讓我們台灣重新站回非一的防線上這個才是你的工作目標才能達到執行的效率 |
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我們都是這樣做報告委員 我們也都是這樣做好 這樣做要有數據啊我問的這些數據的實體怎麼應做要實際的給我 不可以這樣用講的講都是講 都是空話又沒有實體的數據 沒有實體的做法我們要的是執行力謝謝 |