| IVOD_ID |
164777 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164777 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-29T10:38:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-29T10:44:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3d43f2f62388da5154c33872cc09633c599e9b62584ab3efa3c61875d63c7135f61d29bd310f8b835ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:59 - 10:44:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家安全局報告「近期東亞情勢變化對我國影響之研析」，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請國安局的蔡局長來 局長請好 謝謝主席來 委員長你早我先請教一下這個外面一直講而且這個經濟部長也某種程度也承認了我執行過他大概台美關稅20%加N的20加N的疊加 |
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這個到現在為止一直是這個所以傳統產業非常辛苦啊你不要看股市每天創新高可是傳統產業苦哈哈的這個五星價的人越來越多那麼外界一直講說這個我們台美關稅要定案也就是說我們政府需要努力的20%降低不要疊加希望20%降到15%不要疊加這樣的一個想法跟做法那外界就一直認為 |
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這個要等到川習會之後才 他們定案了 我們才定案 |
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或者說中美貿易談判定案以後台美關稅才會定案這個的消息你有沒有掌握基本上因為國安局不是談判的那個團隊那當然還是要以談判團隊對外說法為主我剛也是在用這種方式跟業委員做報告那以我們的了解來講當然是希望在談判過程當中確保國家利益產業利益所以你沒有答案就對了 |
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那另外就是以談到15%以下為主要的目標所以你沒有掌握但是我掌握的就是這個樣子那現在來講就問那川喜什麼時候會APEC沒有談這個問題啊要等到明年出的農曆年 |
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他們才正式見面等於最壞的情況我們20加N要到那個時候才會改變才有機會改變不過因為委員跟會見應該有很多接觸啦事實上在談判過程當中我們的團隊是一直有跟美方在是啦 |
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但是因為政治高一切嘛好 第二個問題這個現在的新的日本的領導人就高市高市早苗他現在說要推動安倍的一致要修改日本的和平憲法這個你們有沒有想過 |
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對 他現在大概 徐徐漸進的有沒有推動對 所謂的安保三文件在做調整那修憲的問題在整個總裁選舉以及他的內閣會議當中目前並不是一個議題現在主政黨跟那個維新他們就在推這個啊 |
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這個來講 他們的國內也反對 國際也反對喔來又是軍國主義互庇喔這個台灣要有立場目前沒有在他們的政策議題上好 那他提到台灣有事 日本有事有沒有要出兵 有沒有這部分確實是在高市當選自民黨總裁的公開記者會他有提到台灣有事就是日本有事他有沒有講出兵 |
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他主要的一個政策立場是在談那個態勢假如台灣發生怎麼樣的緊急事態的話會連動到日本的國家那請問你川普有沒有說過台灣有事美國有事 |
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川普有沒有說過這個部分 向委員講的主要是高市他在川普沒有說過這個話喔川普沒有說過這個話喔而且他現在越來 態勢越來越明顯他不願意為國際的一個紛爭出兵喔這裡面好 最後一點啦 我想不過我也 我報告一下因為我時間快到了我們主席對時間很嚴格他自己可以拖很久 別人不可以拖這個 |
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來 我們看大陸對於所謂的台獨頑固分子他可以偵查 缺席審判 通緝更有人說這些人只要離開台灣就會被逮捕因為幾乎全世界都跟中國大陸有邦交嘛跟我們有邦交就有十幾個國家其他都有所以只要一出國到他們有邦交都可以透過類似 |
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美國透過加拿大為華為的事情去逮捕孟晚舟這樣的模式我就請問你這個事情這個事情 |
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會不會發生剛剛林楚瑜委員也在關切跟委員報告一下基本上中共這種所謂的跨境脅迫它是沒有實際的意義的它是在做政策宣示所以國內在討論的時候也不要落入它的這種法律戰心理戰跟輿論戰的架構之下而製造成一個心理恐慌的效果 |
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也就是被他列為說他懲罰分子 出國照樣出國不必擔心我剛剛也跟林委員在提醒說到了跟中共真的非常友好或是有司法互助的國家確實要小心我們要提高警覺中共跟美國有司法互助啊 |
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那你去美國 基本上我們去美國沒有問題的啊前提是在於親中的這種國家 那比較全球南方國家那要注意有沒有哪些國家會配合到沒有 我要提醒是 不管怎麼樣我們台灣人民 台灣人民代表 要受到我們一定的保護我不知道我們國安局這裡有沒有具體的做法可以保護我們台灣所有的人民 不要受到這樣的干擾 |
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對 剛才跟其他委員提到確實要注意到這種被威脅委員在國內境內的人身安全問題那會不會有在地協力者會不會有在地協力者來侵犯他在國外呢在國外的部分我剛才提醒在國內沒有問題 國外啦不要到了跟中共非常緊密友好政治關係緊密的國家那這種國家我們不建議全世界都跟老共有邦交民主理念國家還是最多數的謝謝委員的提醒那明天好像招委會招會 |