| IVOD_ID |
164728 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164728 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第6次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第6次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-28T14:47:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-28T15:19:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:31:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/92aebe1c891438fad5964d91282e9ff389a1be6dc52a58ecd006efa7cc037c6e856507347698b5fa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
涂權吉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:47:53 - 15:19:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第6次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。二、討論事項：本院交通委員會報告併案審查委員徐巧芯等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七條之一條文修正草案」等案共4案。（施政質詢後接續進行）三、上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。四、下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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好 謝謝主席那麻煩請卓院長還有我們陳金德政委還有陳世凱部長麻煩再請卓院長陳政委還有交通部備詢杜委員好好 謝謝院長和部長 |
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那我請問一下部長還有院長那我們桃園航空城這個我們全台灣我們中華民國史上最大規模的土地徵收開發計畫這個案子院長部長應該很清楚那我們陳吉德政委應該也了解 |
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那這個部分當初不論任何黨派或者中央地方政府大家都視為國家的重大建設那每次對於我們徵收範圍內的拆遷戶當初我們都承諾他要加碼補償 |
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先見後簽 低利融資就是要給我們居民權益最大化那現在這個徵收案其實已經到了最後到了安置的階段可是目前徵收區內的住戶當初說因為相信政府的承諾可是現在 |
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感覺因為大環境跟政府自身的一些因素他們現在感覺非常恐慌都感覺好像很多的承諾一一在跳票那我們先看一下我們在113年3月第24次航空城專案小組的會議會議紀錄這是我們最近一次安置時程調整是在那一次當時會議的主席是當時的行政院副院長鄭文燦 |
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那以當時推估安置住宅交屋時程與安置接擴土地分別做出114年8月跟115年6月作為配置安置住宅與安置接擴的搬遷期限並且訂定115年12月為全區第三屋的搬遷時限那當然我們後來也對 |
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搬遷的這些拆遷物也承諾他們要加發一定成數的配合加速開發獎勵金與安置借貨的協助金 |
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那針對上面會議記錄我們看得到安置住宅的部分政府要在114年4月和5月完成除了接擴衣以外的全部安置住宅交屋那在安置接擴的部分要在113年12月完成水電瓦斯電信污水等五大管線的供應114年2月完成秋點 |
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秋快點交給居民一年十個月的時間自建住宅我們就是在這兩個前提之下往後推他的搬遷的時程那像剛剛已經就是報告當初我們的承諾的會議紀錄那現在已經是114年10月底 |
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可是我相信我們大家應該都很知道因為這個從市府還有很多的民眾都一直在反映現在這個安置住宅根本就尚未完成驗屋跟改善根本沒有辦法交屋而且安置街坡的五大管線在四月份的時候本席接到很多 |
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拆遷戶的反應所以召開了這個地方的說明會台電當時他也坦承是有管無線就是管子配好了但是裡面並沒有線那後來我們在強烈要求之下說這當初的承諾是有管有線有水有電所以後來才開始規劃分區陸續拉線施工那我請問一下院長 |
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那現在交不出房子是拆遷戶的問題嗎沒有電可以施工建屋是拆遷戶的責任嗎那居然當初我們的承諾是有屋可住有電可蓋的時程來設定他們拆遷戶的搬遷時程那現在看起來這兩者顯然都已經牽連了那我們政府在這一方面是不是應該要務實來檢討一下 |
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是 報告委員當初一開始關於整個拆遷的期限乃至於配套的措施裡面就是水電等等以及融資還有安置的計畫這個都是當時在航空城開發的時候跟民眾大家互相達成相當的程度的共識那現在工程進行到現在為止我們都知道時間已經拖慢下去了拖慢下去 但是 |
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如何在115年12月這個期間點能不能達到說讓大家能夠搬遷完成是不是交通部來報告一下是現在的進度是跟委員報告確實他在蓋的過程當中有比較慢一點這個是本來是由市政府來代辦確實是有這個狀況那您剛所提到的這個金融方面的部分我們也已經拜託金管會協助跟銀行這邊來溝通那另外財政部也跟八間的這個公股銀行 |
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也有做溝通所以融資的部分現在應該相對是順暢的那水電的部分呢台電跟台水公司都已經有專案的窗口在協助我們所有的未來的住戶要來做處理並且他也把這個成本有降低所以您剛剛所提的這個配套其實在金融方面在水電方面也都有提出這樣子的協助 |
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對現在重點是我們當初是給民眾一年十個月的蓋房子的時間可是現在很確定安置住宅我們交屋的時間也延後那安置街坡因為水電 |
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五大管線也是全部的延後所以我們針對當初配合加速開發獎勵金還有我們的重建協助金這個時間勢必也要延後你不能因為你本身政府延後結果你後面給民眾的期限你還是墊在那邊那完全沒道理啊 |
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這個會議是最後一次政府院長召開的那整個桃園航空省計畫是讓速度期程有延那獎金的部分也陸續加碼所以這次會議當中就已經重申名聲不得再延那雖然安置住宅這是桃園市政府代辦那麼交屋期程有慢但是並不是一定要今年8月31號 |
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來搬遷因為搬遷期限已經延到明年的12月了所以如果民眾他因為交屋時間慢個幾個月但是他不一定要搬遷他明年才要搬遷那之所以有這個搬遷的獎勵金是因為要配合相關跑道的工程希望如果民眾能夠提早的話那我們就給獎勵金這個獎勵金是針對提早搬遷的而不是所有的民眾都給獎勵金那民眾的搬遷期程不會受影響 |
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仍然是明年的12月31号之前所以这个重点就在这边他们都愿意配合搬迁那当初我们的承诺是先建后迁所以他已经等你盖好他马上要搬进去那你今天安置住宅你没有办法验屋没有改善他根本搬不进去所以不是他不搬他早就想搬进去是你没有办法交屋那安置街坡他要过去盖 |
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可是你當初答應給他的有水有電沒水沒電他怎麼蓋 渠道都沒水沒電啊當初我們要請他們搬遷的時候這都是具體的承諾結果是現在政府根本沒做到你所延誤那你要奠定一個獎勵金跟協助金的期限那你時間交付的期限跟你本身工地水電也沒有辦法如期完成你慢的時間當然也要延後給他 並不是他不搬 |
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安置街坡的部分根據相關資料他是指該到二樓的時候二樓的時候在二樓樓地板他不一定要整個完成所以比較現在提提及比較多的是安置住宅的部分安置街坡反而是問題比較少現在安置住宅確定沒有如期交屋所以他你沒有辦法給他這個交屋當然是 |
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台灣市政府代辦這個工程當中有一些慢一點但是所謂家屋也是雙方合意家屋並不能一味說因為房子沒有蓋好所以這家屋還是有雙方的問題所以才說容許民眾到115年的12月之前來搬遷舊有的居住房子都可以 |
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所以當初後來有一個緩衝的方法就是當他們在今年8月底以前提出他要搬遷但是他現在就是說擔心說我們政府到時候他簽了搬遷就逼他搬遷所以我們現在也希望一個具體承諾你沒有辦法交屋讓他去把那邊房子弄好之後我們是不應該逼他搬遷的對不對 |
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搬遷期限是明年115年的12月31啦對所以他本來是115年的12月31之前房子一定都全數都好了所以從這邊政委這邊給我們一個答覆我們聽了也比較安心就是他是在114年8月底以前提出配合加速開發他去領這個獎勵金但是他要搬遷的時間是配合我們政府等到房子蓋好再請他搬遷對不對不是 |
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是你如果要配合這個搬遷獎勵金是8月30日之前要搬遷那如果沒有在這個8月30日之前搬遷就沒有這個獎勵金但是你不搬遷也可以搬遷的期限是115年的12月30日這當中相關獎勵金很多了這個搬遷獎勵金只是其中的一筆而已 |
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所以沒關係我現在基本上要請院長幫忙就是說當初我們的會議紀錄是幾年幾月完成那現在所有的從安置住宅到安置街坡水電的部分的問題 |
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他們就等著政府水電弄好他就去蓋安置住宅你驗屋完成他馬上搬進去住那如果我們本身政府因為自己沒有辦法交屋還有這個土地當初承諾的水電沒有辦法完成你延後的部分這個期限應該是要給他們並不能說你前面的訂定結果政府延後之後你要把他獎勵金的期限你又訂定在那邊而且前面是一個安置住宅加速搬遷的獎勵金後面明年2月 |
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又有重建協助金樓地板剛剛政委講的協助金的部分你現在如果你水電沒有辦法給他他沒有辦法去蓋勢必明年二樓樓地板他也蓋不到而且你這個協助金蓋好以後後面滿期之後他要拿到 |
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使用執照才算完成如果沒拿到使用執照還要把這個重建協助金去追回所以我今天要拜託院長的部分如果是政府的責任政府要擔當下來你延後的部分不能你本身澆屋跟澆我們安置街坡土地的部分隨便沒有完成的部分你延後結果你獎勵金跟協助金的部分你不給他延這是沒有道理的 |
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你的時間是給他一年十個月結果你本身延後結果你一年十個月的時間等於是緊縮了院長我這樣講了解我講的意思嗎陳靜德主委所說的就是現在原則性的最終決定那我現在看不出有任何達不到的狀況為了到了115年的12月如果真的房子都沒有蓋出來那當然這個 |
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要跟居民大家重新來考量是有的但如果那個時候工程要進行順利房屋都蓋出來了搬遷就有可能我們努力在做這個工作不過部長也有地方政府也要配合目前看起來115年年底之前一定都會蓋好了所以它這個交屋應該不會有這個問題其實市府也已經反映確定是延遲了 |
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但是一直得不到行政院的正面回應所以現在地方政府跟民眾才會恐慌所以今天本席才會在這邊拜託院長拜託部長你一定要正視這個問題如果是政府不管是中央政府還是地方政府你們延誤的部分要還給民眾公平正義地方政府確實是確定會延誤啦但是那個延誤不會超過我們交屋的那個日期115年的搬遷的期限 |
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115年年底這個不會超過好 那我希望說前面我們確實自己有延誤的部分希望還是要寬限重寬處理不然民眾會恐慌馬上明年2月又來了他到現在連安置街或是水電都沒有他根本沒有辦法進去蓋你明年2月要他針對樓地板每平補助3萬他明年2月沒蓋到他就說我就領不到錢啊所以今天這個問題是我們教 |
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交這個水電安置接坡的土地根本還沒交給他他怎麼進場去蓋報告委員好 關於安置接坡興建的那個量體很大那麼這個我們持續跟台灣市政府相關會議召開了很多次希望台灣市政府針對這個安置接坡應該統一形式有幾種形式的房子然後呢相關審查程序縮短讓有利於這個興建所以那個時間是抓 |
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有抓到一定的時間還不至於說沒辦法去興建的這樣好沒關係其實我剛剛已經聽到我們院長其實正面善意的回應那我也希望院長跟部長實際去了解如果是政府的責任不能把這時間點壓縮在民眾的身上讓他們造成現在就很恐慌 |
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現在還沒辦法去蓋又限定明年什麼時候才能領到超過就不能領然後什麼時候要領到使用執照所以這部分我相信院長已經了解本席今天講的意思我希望能夠正面給我們善意來處理了解委員的意識跟民眾的擔憂我們現在努力就是讓這些憂心的事情不要發生盡快把 |
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工程的速度把它補上來但地方政府的配合我也請交通部要跟地方加強溝通工程會也來協助謝謝院長正面的回應希望大家來解決民眾問題因為他是配合國家政府的重大政策而且延誤不是他延誤我們秉持的點是這個 |
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還有剛剛其實部長也直接有講到針對貸款的問題其實現在這個也是一個非常重要的問題其實據我們來了解在2022年其實當時因為這航空城那時候是鄭文燦市長那時候手上 |
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然後他在2022年6月的時候有針對找了八大公股銀行跟地區農會12個金融機構那時候有合作成立桃園航空城安置戶 |
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優惠融資貸款平台而且大家也大合照也講說要以最低1.56%的房屋貸款2.05%的建築融資貸款之低利優惠給我們這些拆遷戶的低利貸款的融資可是目前很多鄉親反映在申辦利率跟貸款陳述的時候他們去到都回歸市場機制也就是說 |
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根本毫無任何的優惠而且根本到分行的時候他們連收件都不收件直接請他們推薦所以這部分可能請我們財政部還有金管會幫忙一下了解一下這部分據我們了解我們的安置戶網有3000多戶 |
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那裡面只有大園跟蘆竹農會真的有在幫忙這兩個農會總共核貸了500多件可是報告院長你知道我們八大公股銀行總共核貸不到100件而且現在去他們說沒錢而且也沒有給他們低利的貸款利息 |
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那這一部分我覺得當初的承諾都沒有做到他們是要擔心安置住宅他也不敢去點交啊因為去點交他的自備款他拿不出來然後安置街坡如果要動工的時候他這些錢也拿不出來所以這一部分是不是真的要拜託財政部跟金管會是不是請我們八大公股銀行跟農會能夠多幫忙 |
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有關這個部分專案性的貸款當然供股行庫是會配合國家的政策來做需要目的事業主管機關和金融主管機關一起來訂定相關的規範我想供股行庫會配合辦理的 |
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對啊那是不是請財政部要交辦因為他們下去直接分行就直接連收件都不收件他說他們沒錢那據我們了解其實每個航空目前他都還有額度啦那只是我們覺得因為他們覺得是不是航空城這些去辦利息太低甚至而且還有 |
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衡量是說因為他們的人員不足所以在這邊才要拜託院長是不是針對這些安置戶可以請我們財政部經管會這邊幫忙讓安置戶 |
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去深貸是不是有一個專案因為真的他們是配合國家重大政策不是他願意搬的他本來有家可以住現在搞得沒家住整天還要擔心去哪裡借錢蓋房子去哪裡借錢才有辦法住進去安置住宅那針對這部分貸款的部分現在又針對什麼銀行法72之二條的規定 |
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那變成他們去到很多銀行都說沒有錢可以貸是不是針對地區分行自有的資金跟人力不足的部分問題院長可以交辦一下請他們成立一個專案或請專案小組召集人邀集各銀行來處理這個問題嗎好 謝謝委員我們剛剛到現在一直提到一句話我覺得很感激就是配合國家重大政策 |
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我個人也是認為任何國人配合國家重大政策政府跟他之間要保持更高的互相信賴的關係那當初談到的一些條件我們今天如果沒有特別的狀況尤其等一下提到 銀行法72-2我們之前有一些 |
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緊縮 那目前我們想辦法來把它寬鬆了請部長來說明一下如果對八大航庫在這個配合國家重大政策的過程當中政府應該給予更多過去的信賴關係是的 我想我們這個部分會後會來跟我們的公股航庫還有配合跟金管會一起來協助處理這樣的事情 |
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拜託財政部部長跟金管這邊多幫忙因為這個其實是案件非常多這不是個案我們已經質詢很多次在委員會也提出全部都說以個案來處理這真的不是個案而且這戶數非常非常多現在很多的拆遷戶都還在等這筆錢的貸款所以他們現在卡在那邊根本不知所措真的是造成他們現在是無家可歸也可以請彭主委來說明還有這些民間的銀行 |
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是跟委員說明一下有關桃園航空城民眾貸款的問題我們過去一直有跟桃園市政府有密切的聯繫他們會把一些有困難的案子他會逐一轉給我們會逐一的去跟銀行來做一個溝通跟協調我想正在進行中我們最近也會馬上召開剛剛講的相關的航庫比如剛剛提到那幾家在這個的銀行還有相關的這些單位我們會趕快來開會協商 |
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我們希望院長幫忙交代一下是不是成立一個專案有一個特定的召集人幫我們解決航空城貸款這些的問題航空城本身就是一個專案我們用這樣的方式來向裡面現在需要再做進一步去協助民眾在金融支持方面的我們來重新審視一次謝謝院長今天幫我們解決航空城的問題謝謝 |
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好 那請我們部長跟金淮會主委先回那我再請我們衛福部石崇良部長我想針對麻煩請衛福部長備詢 |
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針對我們桃園沿海 大園 觀音 新屋我們整個沿海是我們全北區北部最大的工業區而且裡面有竹圍漁港 永安漁港 航空城跟機場可是不知道院長有沒有注意到我們這整個沿海這麼大一片的地方到現在連一個稍微大型的醫療院所都沒有尤其是工業區 |
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不但是居住那邊的人每天去上班的人不知道有多少我們針對部桃新屋分院第二醫療大樓擴建的問題我相信石崇良部長應該很清楚我們在2019年12月的時候蔡英文總統也到新屋分院那邊去她也說照顧每個地方的居民健康是重要的政策在2020年我們 |
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石崇良部長那時候是次長你也說部桃是自己的意願責無旁貸那在2024年薛瑞元部長在委員會答詢的時候也答應要協助我們桃園沿海地區蓋地區型的醫院那後來也2024年5月2號我們石部長那時候是健保署署長你說印象中有編列部桃新屋分院擴建的預算那時候薛瑞元部長也說這個案子已經有預算了 |
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那在2024年6月12號邱太元部長我們特別邀請他去那邊考察他也答應一個月內之內要向行政院爭取更多的佈住經費給新屋分院建第二醫療大樓那我請問一下石部長現在這個進度到底在哪裡跟委員報告這個新屋分院目前是有在進行一些更新但是第二醫療大樓的進度我再來追蹤一下 |
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這個其實我跟石部長說明一下因為這中間很多的過程你都有參與其實這從2009年就開始從土地變更到現在而且一直以來從當初我們蔡英文總統要競選連任的時候也去新屋也去布陶新屋分院那邊也跟民眾說擴建案馬上開始因為擴建案已經通過馬上開始後來我們現在的總統賴清德總統當時是副總統 |
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他也說這個選上的他一定要馬上去做那可是看了一下這個案子你看到現在過了那麼久我們還沒有看到他在編列預算而且我們在委員會質詢了總共質詢了六次那我們來參考一下 |
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我們台南成大沙崙醫院大家看一下他在2023年1月的時候行政院通過沙崙分院的擴建計畫但是這個比部桃新屋分院還慢了4年部桃新屋分院在蔡總統2019年就已經說我們擴建計畫就已經通過所以我們新屋分院第二醫療大樓 |
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比沙崙醫院早了4年可是現在沙崙分院到2025年今年已經絕標然後說2031年要啟動結果部桃比人家早了4年到現在聽說還在改計畫也沒編預算 |
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我不知道是到底衛福部到底有沒有有沒有心幫我們沿海增加這個醫療資源我們目前先從這個桃園分院那個已經通過行政院的核定是我們桃園醫院會先去做那個新的大樓的興建那至於新屋的分院的部分也有做內部的一些改建那些是有的那新的醫療大樓我會再來積極的協助 |
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我希望部長這多幫忙因為這真的已經我們擴建比人家早四年結果人家全部已經訂案要興建已經連蓋好的日期都出來結果據我們了解說衛福部現在還在更改計劃我說部桃還在更改計劃希望衛福部能夠多監督我們部桃分院把這計劃趕快做好是不是可以針對我們部桃醫院的計劃 |
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衛福部可以督促一下明年可以把這個核定完成嗎也希望院長幫我們關注一下我請衛福部三項工作第一個關於這個桃園沿海地區的醫療的整個服務的量能在檢討要如何加強第二部桃是我們部立院裡面規模最大的他應該有現在有更大的服務量能那麼在這個階段當中能不能做一些更多的服務另外整個桃園地區區域的聯防的政策 |
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我們把它串聯起來也許光靠部桃或許有其他的醫院也可以做一些資源在這個改建增建的過程當中盡量把它強化我請衛部做一個計畫出來 |
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那就拜託院長跟部長我們這個新屋分院當然這個擴建第二新建大樓它只是一個指標性當然如果整體總考量能夠把我們沿海的醫療資源能夠擴充那當然是最大的福音因為我剛剛有講它是北部最大的工業區而且很多的重鎮都在這邊很多不住在這邊可是每天來這邊上班的人有多少 |
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而且都是工業區的人萬一假設發生什麼重大的意外我們鄰近根本沒有一些地區型的醫療院所能夠做緊急的處置這部分也希望院長跟部長來幫我們多叮嚀針對我們桃園沿海的醫療資源幫我們做個總檢討幫我們加強一下好那謝謝部長那再請我們環境部部長彭啟明部長跟農業部陳俊濟部長再請農業部環境部 |
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院長那當然最近因為非洲豬瘟的問題農業部也發新聞稿自2025年10月22號起全面禁止使用廚餘養豬那本席想請問一下院長我們現在針對飼養豬隻那未來我們這廚餘的處理方式我們有什麼打算嗎 |
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因為全國現在廚餘的部分如果這樣精算起來還有60%以上是用在這個飼養豬隻所以要處理這個廚餘未來的去化問題是第一項這些廚餘要怎麼去化那目前這是掩埋跟囤化那如果照現在我們看到這些掩埋場的狀況我們是絕對不會滿意也不會同意的 |
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所以未來朝向的是一個如何讓廚餘能夠輔導轉型它可能才變成一個更飼料化終極可以成為一個生殖能的發電廚餘能不能做成一個比較進步的飼料的過程這個製成的過程我們可以吸取更多的經驗現在農業部也有在處理那現在對各個縣市裡面的這些廚餘也有人建議說加強現在所謂聯合徵主中心那我們必須克服它用地的取得 |
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資金技術還有周遭環境大家的同意所以這個部分我們會列為在這個豬瘟狀況比較穩定的時候之下我們進一步來考慮到說廚餘的使用去化跟未來轉型升級的各項工作所以院長我剛有聽你說會輔導養豬戶轉型然後用飼料所以終極目標是希望不用廚餘是嗎 |
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如果有到那個狀況就是大家都不用廚餘那我們可以廚餘的去化我們有很好的處理方式不會影響到環境二次傷害那也把廚餘本身變成輔導它轉型成為另外一種飼料品這個我想農業部可以再做詳細的說明我跟委員報告就是我們過去6年來那個廚餘養豬場從2000多場變成434場 |
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那其中那個桃園的部分大概98場是最多的跟屏東是一樣多的那相對的就是用廚藝養豬它不是原罪只要我們把廚藝的管理跟控制的好的話其實廚藝是一個很好的飼料不管是直接的去徵主變成一個安全的或者是變成飼料化 |
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那未來我們跟環境部會一起努力怎麼樣把這個廚餘變成一個飼料化更安全的飼料這是我們的重點因為時間關係那這邊其實我們大概有講一些重點那當然我們剛剛聽院長講我也希望說中央能夠輔導地方針對廚餘的去化什麼多元化去把它處理然後增加它的量能 |
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1841.43 |
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還有那現在珍珠中心因為我們知道非洲豬運要90度以上高溫處理一個小時所以這珍珠中心應該也要中央跟地方大家聯手合作怎麼去輔導還有針對我們豬農短期飼料補助是不是可以幫忙我們現在正在規劃那也跟委員報告現在全台灣有四個縣市九個案子在 |
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1848.223 |
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1868.221 |
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所以因為現在禁運進來所以他們不能只拍一次 要再一次更加熱情所以我們說疫情我們再更加熱情一個禮拜之內會提出來好 針對我們短期 |
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1880.402 |
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好 谢谢 |