| IVOD_ID |
164693 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164693 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T12:28:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T12:37:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d3a00ca57b86620c598c2d94e6d34c5cc9226cb2fc33252327632dec9194285a125ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:28:58 - 12:37:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請顧部長請顧部長要先喝口水嗎部長好 這個美國參議院的外委會今天通過這個四項挺台的法案那其中包含這個簡化冗長對台軍售程序的豪卒法案讓台灣顯有跟北約盟友同等的待遇 |
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那現在就是說這個未來我們這個在軍售的流程會比較縮短那這個我們可以跟這個像北大西洋公園組織日本、澳洲、韓國、以色列等北約PLUS成員享有同等的軍售待遇對不對這個相關的法案裡面是有這樣子的一個要求 |
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那請教一下部長台灣享有跟北約盟友有同等的待遇那除了縮短這個軍售的這個程序跟時間之外他的政治上的意涵是什麼 |
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我想我們雖然沒有像北約這樣子的一個組織跟美國但是這個彰顯美國對於台海和平穩定的重視所以讓我們享有跟北約盟友一樣同等的待遇顯示他們對於印太整個區域 |
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這個維持現狀的一個是他們的一個高度認為是他美國的核心利益的一個展現好 那再請教一下部長那目前有哪些我們的軍售項目可以因為這個豪租法案而受惠的 |
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有嗎?報告議員 豪樹法案目前它是規劃把智慧國會它的那個效期中30天壓縮到15天但是就軍售項目來講如果是屬於傳統的大型軍售的話它主要的問題還是在進入預約階段跟產商產製所以這個影響不會太大可是如果就新創產業比如說 |
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像最近出現的人工智慧武器等等這些東西它的產值其實比較短或是我們之前買的那個Altius 600這種由新創產業他們做的這種產品這個壓縮或許就可以帶來一部分時間上面的交易那就是跟這個新創的這個軍工產業有相關就對了 |
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那我再請教一下部長今年六月美國戰爭部長赫格賽斯他有提到說準備在印太地區建立小型無人機的系統標準確認關鍵零組件的生產來源然後今年八月呢這個八月底參議院的軍事委員會主席維克爾他也說了這個美國跟台灣共同生產武器呢未來將會實現所以呢台灣的角色呢從單純的買方轉為美國國防工業上的重要節點那請教一下部長 |
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這個飛鴻的供應鏈包含他們的戰爭部長跟軍委會主席所講的主要是以台美共同合作研發無人機嗎 |
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我想台美的共同的一個合作一項緊密當然無人機是其中的一個重點因為美國也要擺脫紅色的滲透的可能性也就是說如果無人機以中國現在的 |
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高比例的一個市場的佔有率他這些相關的這些通訊的系統都藏有這個資安跟個資洩漏的疑慮所以當然也都需要來結合這個理念價值相近的國家來共同打造一個非紅供應鏈這當然是其中的一個重要的項目那台灣的角色啦台灣角色那主要是以無人機為主嗎還是有包含其他的 |
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沒有警訊與無人機其他的部分我想我們可能不宜公開來做說明那剛剛有提到這個新創我們國防部也有一個國防創新小組DIO |
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然後呢跟美國的一個國防創新單位DIU目前有這一個建立的聯繫的管道嗎因為根據這個聯邦參議院通過的這個國防授權法案也要求美國的國防部的國防創新單位DIU跟台灣的DIO的對應窗口合作那請問一下這個雙方有建立這個聯繫的管道了嗎那有充分的這一個做資訊的交換了嗎 |
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有 我們跟這個美國的DIU已經建立了一個交流的機制我們定期會藉由視訊或實體會議來進行交流那時間大概有多久了你說是就是雙方建立管道的時間大概有多久了去年的二月開始從去年二月開始那我們這個DIU是哪時候成立的 |
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就我們也是同時間嘛2月所以從去年2月到現在那時間蠻長的喔 |
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對 所以我們的已經有在不斷的跟美國的DIU建立這些有關要如何快速的建構這些在市場上這些已經既有的這些商品能夠快速的引進所以我們會有這些原型開發我們會有小批量採購這些都是在陸續的應用這種方式來快速的進行現貨的採購 |
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就小批量採購然後進行驗證測試然後如果可以的話我們就可以快速的來進行籌購這些模式可能要比普通的這個建案的程序要都是以軍規商用為主的嗎主要還是以市場上成熟的這些然後可以符合我們防衛作戰需求的好 不好意思主席我再問最後一項這個 |
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無人機很重要 但是監察院也講說無人機訓練中心規劃的人數恐怕不足明年接裝軍用商規的無人機操控手訓練量有不足 請問一下這個有改善了嗎 |
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有我們要變裝要做簡單說明就好像委員簡單報告就是我們任何軍售或是商售的無人機它整個都是包含到我們的包含到幫我們訓練我們依採購數量的非超手無人機主要就是培育資資還有進階的訓練那這方面其實是已經我說這個人數夠不夠 |
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何時可以補足就隨著我們膠裝的數量會幫我們做完訓練所以這方面是沒有問題的目前是夠的嗎我看監察院講說不夠那個已經有向監察院呈付後面我們也在整個購案裡面都有廠商來包含訓練的這個部分部長我10月8號有講說這一個是不是有這個台智齡組件用於這個俄羅斯的武器你說要找這個經濟部就我昨天問經濟部經濟部說你們根本沒有找他兩個禮拜了 |
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跟委員報告我想因為這個部分整個的這種零件的這種供應涉及到相當複雜的這個部分就是說你去調查需要時間但是你們連聯絡都沒有聯絡這就不應該了是是是好不好那多久時間可以調查出來 |
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我沒有把握這個是不是有辦法調查的出來有啦怎麼沒有辦法這你跟經濟部經濟部說要來找你們啦你不找他們來找你們一個月好不好這攸關台灣的形象我想我們再進一步了解至少要聯絡好嗎好我們去跟經濟部聯絡好謝謝 |