| IVOD_ID |
164684 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164684 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T11:50:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T11:59:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d3522f75107ad6764f8c2d94e6d34c5cc9226cb2fc332523273eca6ea80bfd1def5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:50:29 - 11:59:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請國防部的顧部長請顧部長各位 |
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部長你好最近一直有一件事情我一直想要看內容都看不到一個是總統講的說台灣之盾 |
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另外一個就是特別預算我們要編有人講一兆那現在又聽到是一兆三這個等於在國防預算Regular的正常預算裡面另外要編特別預算請問到底是一兆還是一兆三 |
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跟委員報告 現在就是說關於這個特別預算的規模還在行政院審議當中所以我們等行政院審議確定以後但你有提出來啊 你提出來是多少 |
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呃我想因為還沒有審議完畢所以我想我們這邊因為這個預算的這個籌編是行政院的權責所以我還想自己行政院的決定最後的決定不是可是你你總是有個版本給行政院啊不然行政院什麼審呢你總是有個版本嘛不然這個這個因為原來講的是一兆後來說一兆三這個一兆三是不是太多了或者你你你你不變名講那我就說比一兆三少這樣可以吧 |
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我想還是要以行政院的審議的結果所以問不出答案就對了這裡面總是要講一下讓我們知道一下一兆多是不是都滿美國武器是不是我想這怎麼是機密呢要面對全國老百姓納稅的錢 |
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我想有軍購也有我們國內的自己的委制然後也有進行商購所以通通都是買武器就這個意思對吧特別條例嘛就類似戰機的特別條例2500億然後現在有一個特別條例一兆或者一兆三一兆到一兆三之間 |
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我想相關的這些相關的這些編列的內容我想等行政院核定之後我們再對外來說明剛剛我們林委員提到海空號海空號不在裡面吧沒有 海空號海空號是extra的不在除了besides海空號以外我們還要編一兆一兆就是台灣之盾這兩個是不是一樣一樣的東西 |
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這兩個是不是一樣的東西就是為了要建構台灣之盾所以編了一照我都聽你講話了你總是要回答一下嘛是跟委員報告我想我對你多好啊我們現在要快速提升的是不對稱戰力跟強化防衛韌性 |
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防空系統不是只有針對台灣之盾不是只有針對台灣之盾但是台灣之盾在其中之裡面會是其中的一個重要的主要是防空系統是不是我們的整個防空會包括反彈反擊跟反無人機還有整合啊整合系統啊像巴西斯坦可以贏印度那就是一個整合系統的問題啊 |
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所以我們會以這個強調這個高機動性跟高存活力的平台作為一個優先的考量所以主要是防空系統嘛相圍是一定的空優嘛 是不是我不知道我們現在有沒有空優啦 |
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我想我們現在的這個特別預算的這個內容應該還沒有經過核定我想但是我剛已經講了我們是以提升不對稱戰力跟強化防衛人性沒有會有包含這個你來這裡就要盡量講講到不能講為止不能夠說我盡量不講急一下急一下講一點那第二個小問題就是問你是不是全數舉債總可以講白 |
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這個部分是主計局來說明一下主計局啊 長官啊 |
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人家外面罵得要死啊 現在我們去哪裡人家就說立委要怎麼監督的國防部的組織局 欸 那個顧部長啊你左邊這一位啊 你要好好的去監督一下對不對 椅子買五萬塊一張 辦公桌兩百多萬一張唉 給我們賣到要死了 賣到臭頭啊連我們立委出去都被罵 所以我們都沒有好好監督啊 |
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對不對我們的主席多優秀把人抓出來要沒有抓出來就是按照你們原來講的啊能騙就騙 能框就框啊都這樣 對不對來講一下是不是都舉菜回答我是的 各位 |
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都百分之百舉債一兆一債是什麼概念啊我們一年中央政府總預算三兆喔三分之一的預算就舉債一兆除以兩千三百萬一個人要付多少錢你可以想一個人這個不是一年的特別預算那幾年七年七年一兆那就是七年平均一年就是也是一千多億啊 |
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1400億 1500億左右啊好 第二個問題啊 我很快把它講完喔我今天接到好多電話就在抗議啊內政部其實抗議你啊說這個不當兵的那個原來BMI啊去兩年前才修訂了 到3535以上不用當兵現在把它提到45 |
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那你對他講說替代役 這個部長 你講替代役那你要講一下吧 你現在提高這麼多這個讓很多的 很多可以來的一個小胖子或者是比較體型比較圓潤的通宵當兵的變這個樣子 |
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我想是不是軍醫局檢要說明我是軍醫局局長跟委員報告因為我們常備役的體位沒有改變維持原來的體位那我們增加的是替代役那替代役從BMI講清楚所以35到45都是替代役是不是是替代役35到45都是替代役那這樣可以增加多少人這個可能要問內政部醫政署 |
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都是替代役 替代役時間多久替代役時間也是一年來喔 我唸一段我就結束了這是選民給我的他的小孩子就是BMI45怎麼減都減不了就BMI45 |
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然後他特別提到了現在大於37.5只是聽好喔兩位長官大於37.5健保補助開縮胃手術就是醫學上講的病態性的一個肥胖那你現在37.5就健保補助你開縮胃的手術就很清楚 |
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以健康的角度來講37.5以上都不是太健康如果以肥胖來講的話那結果你要讓他去當兵萬一出了人命怎麼樣呢這個給我的是什麼就是他的小孩子就44他現在很憂心小孩子去當兵以後會不會怎麼樣會不會鬧出人命 |
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跟委員報告這個是內政部議政司現在初步的建議但是我們現在還在開會還沒定案只是說有這個方向那還要經過各個委員會還有各個學會還有醫院還有專家還有內政部議政司最後一句話什麼時候可以確定 |
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我大概在下個月大概就會定版下個月就會開始進入公告階段好好的把我剛剛那一段你把它看一下有些家長真的很憂心37.5是衛護部裡面健保可以補助的所謂的所謂的手術37.5是 謝委員的提醒好 謝謝 |