| IVOD_ID |
164673 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164673 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T11:13:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T11:21:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d344d35d8d6a00c3dfcbd78a287304ef9f378985d1c29b3fea3dc5b1e4eb39a2a65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:13:25 - 11:21:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長及財政部關務署首長就「非洲豬瘟防檢疫後續防疫精進作為」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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請做詢答好 謝謝主席我想要請陳部長我們再請陳部長陳部長 |
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我想請問一下像這一次的這個養豬場所發生的問題那有沒有展開回溯性的調查那這份報告什麼時候可以公佈 |
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我想我們從21號發現了以後我們第一時間就是將這個廠所有的移動管制然後全面鋪砂然後開始我們就從周圍的3公里還有它的直接的關聯廠去做調查然後接下來就是這輛車輛本身移動的關聯廠所以我們啟動正式的調查那正式的調查它需要一些時間但是我們每一天在台中前進指揮前進應變所這邊每一天會對外公開說明我們的進度 |
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那你還是沒講啊對啊 三公里啊還有未來可能對於全國各縣市都要展開調查嗎是不是對 我們同時就是啟動台中市的疫調然後台中市以外的全國的豬場的第一個就是它的本身的豬隻的健康度的回報跟它的一個關注所以我們是同時啟動 |
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比較強度比較強的台東市的應變然後還有其他縣市的那相關的調查什麼時候可以公布所以我剛才說的這個疫調有它的時間我現在沒辦法講說一定多久可以完成但是我們是希望在這個潛伏期的15天之內能夠完成15天 那就是月底 |
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15天那5天齁為一個單位我希望說台東市的這個基本的疫調能夠在5天之內能夠完成就是5天之內對就是台東市這個部分是25號嗎大概我是昨天他們去前進指揮所我是希望說5天之內能夠完成因為他們不會有假日的是昨天的5天對等於下禮拜一囉 |
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大概下禮拜一禮拜二這樣子但是我們每天都會公告我們的進度因為疫調還有可能又追到其他的源頭所以你剛才說的有可能就是其他委員在質詢的你覺得有可能它的原因不是來自於廚餘是不是 |
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我说非洲猪瘟的传播本身当然厨余是一个原因但是人员的如果说你进到国外的这些养猪场然后可能带过来的然后也有可能你其他的食物来源不是经过厨余的来源带回来因为如果那个场有其他的这些外籍的 |
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我不是就是外籍去国外买东西好了我们不一定是外籍就是国外买东西回来那也可能不小心吃一吃以后就丢到自己家里去都有可能啦所以这些可能在疫调没有完成之前我们不能断定说它一定是是人员接触一定是厨医或一定是家里买东西自己乱丢造成的我们要怎么判断但是那个病毒的分离报告是不是已经出来了大概分离报告大概两个礼拜还没出来吗还没有出来 |
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我怎麼那為什麼我有定序我們這樣子我們先用核酸病毒的核酸檢測是陽性然後接下來我們會做這個核酸的一個定序那定序完了以後其實應該是確認的但是因為我們台灣是首例那是首例的國家的話他還要做一個動作就是將這個病毒做分類 |
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分離跟分類那才能夠正式的通報所以這個部分就是在分離需要兩個禮拜所以我們是用最強的用把它已經是其實就是非洲豬瘟只是在通報上還需要一些那病毒株呢是從哪裡來的這個還要再做分離以後還要定序現在定序還在繼續定序是越南嗎 |
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你剛才有講可能是中國 可能是東南亞然後一部分之間所以我們現在完全定序以後才能做完整的比對定序還在執行嗎所以定序也要兩個禮拜不確定是來自於東南亞還是因為非洲株的病毒高達180K所以它需要很多時間去完成定序那我目前已經知道的是大部分的序列都來自第二基因型那第二基因型就是目前廣為世界流傳的病毒株的基因型不一定來自越南 |
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不一定是來自於越南是不是好那所以定序要兩個禮拜以後才會出來好那就是下下禮拜囉下禮拜一是疫調然後下下禮拜是病毒株的定序是不是 |
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大概是這樣子下禮拜一是大概台中市的部分我們希望有個初步的結果大概是這樣因為疫調有它的有它的嚴謹度跟詳細度啦好那我還要再一次請教喔就是關於廚餘養豬的問題喔那廚餘養豬是為什麼當初2018年有這樣子爭議的時候不馬上的禁止是因為 |
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沒有辦法處理廚餘的問題嗎是不是我想當初當初做這樣的一個政策最後政策的一個決定一定有他當時的一個考量是不是沒有辦法處理廚餘我想可能是一個原因就是處理的量推到我們現在你有沒有辦法處理廚餘我想 |
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從108年到現在其實用廚餘養豬的戶數已經降到430幾435場本來1000多場變成降到435場這就是當初108年的時候雖然說我們沒有禁止但是我們積極輔導他轉型那同時我們去強化那個廚餘的徵主的條件跟他的嚴苛的一個監管那這樣子的話只要確認這個這個是 |
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那農業部有沒有去跟環保有沒有跟環境部了解到底廚餘有沒有辦法處理我們全台灣所有的廚餘有沒有辦法處理它的廚餘本身它有不同的像它可以做一般的飼料然後進到廚餘養生處但是現在目前大概65%大概是進到廚餘的系統然後還有一些生殖的部分所以剛才因為委員提到我們如果把廚餘先做成飼料再餵豬也是一個很好的方法 |
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所以我想除以養豬絕對不是就是罪魁禍首但是我們要讓除以養豬能夠安心的養豬牠的飼料是安全的這是我們的目標 |
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好 我希望我們能夠緊述的調查做疫調的相關調查讓所有的養豬場都能夠安心到底真正的來源是什麼那以及病毒株的來源是從何而來那對於未來就是說相關的邊境的檢查也好那才有辦法進行確實我想要順便問一下我們關務署 |
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請問一下我想請問一下現在我們的出口今年的出口的數字是怎麼樣是說我們到目前為止整年的一個出口據我了解應該都還維持還不錯的一個成績是不是有33%的我看有33%的成長是不是我看你們關務署的數字 |
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抱歉委員我沒有掌握這個數字是不是容我查證之後再跟您回報那明年咧我想要知道明年的數字明年出口的一個數字會不會下降抱歉委員這可能我還是要請教專家之後我再來跟您回覆你們都沒有做預估喔 |
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你們都沒做預估喔?關務署這邊我是沒有對啊你們不都會做預估嗎?你們財政部不都會做預估嗎?財政部那邊會做預估你們都會做預估啊主總那邊會做預估啦包括經濟成長率等等好 謝謝 |