| IVOD_ID |
164661 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164661 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T10:26:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T10:39:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d33be08b33ed65565248629de9594d8cbe61e6bfef52f5c09392d0a82c07ca83cd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李彥秀 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:26:54 - 10:39:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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好接下來我們請李燕秀委員質詢謝謝召委可不可以請總裁好請總裁委員早總裁早安我先延續前面幾位委員對於新台幣改版的問題我想先就教於總裁因為去年前年我們台灣的棒球得到世界冠軍的時候當時我還記得我有質詢說我們要不要改版 |
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因為大家對於台灣的驕傲台灣之光大家都非常的開心當時總裁的回應是說目前沒有規劃計畫怎麼在不到一年多的時間馬上就說我們準備改版改版這件事情應該是一個長期既定性的東西但是為什麼會這麼快速就有一個這樣子的轉變 |
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報告委員 你說我當時就說我們沒有規劃說要改辦這個我好像我沒有說這一句話 |
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你認為這個是既定的如果說我講這句話沒關係我今天有好幾個議題要就教於您總裁既定的計畫既定的計畫當中其實有一個很重要的因素是我們希望新的新台幣改版之後除了設計之外還有一個是防偽的功能事實上 |
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新台幣防偽的功能每一次我們改版我們都在講說這個防偽的功能很重要我們都在加強我要請問總裁我們過去就是說是現在好了到目前為止我們新台幣有偽鈔的狀況非常多嗎沒有 |
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不高我們還要再增加什麼樣的功能我想 我就不懂每換一次新台幣有它特殊 就是說既定的改版之外它的意義到底是什麼 |
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我想是這樣子啦不管是外界有人必須說你們是有政治上的操作不會不會絕對不會你想達到的功能是什麼第一個還是就是說因為就是科技的進步即使是說我們現在的微超率很低我們還是要做改版為什麼事實上其他的國家他改版的國家很多也是他的微超率也是很低的 |
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這是第一點所以就說你的改版多久改版一次所以多久改版所以有委員就認為我們24年收集還是太慢了因為有的國家的還11年我覺得應該去收集大家的資料還有對我們來說多久改版一次 |
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是恰當的那另外我們希望達到什麼樣的目的我覺得這才能夠說服大家因為每改版一次所花的經費也不少沒有錯啦委員講的沒有錯啦不過剛剛你委員在問說什麼功能第一個當然你要達到什麼樣特殊的意義啊對啦 |
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剛剛也是在講就是說現在的科技進步得非常快所以我們要未雨綢繆所以即使是很多國家它的微潮率也很低但是它還是要改版為什麼那你還是沒有回答我你要達到什麼樣的目的總裁你簡答就好因為我今天好幾個問題我再講一個你看看我們的鈔券2000塊還有1000塊那個科技 |
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科技是那個時候我們台灣的科技但是現在我們台灣的科技你看看我們台灣的科技已經是進步的很大了我覺得台灣科技進步你要達到什麼目的還有剛剛我剛剛在講的就是說像我們五百塊的背面那個水路 那個梅花路梅花路以前是保育動物現在就是 |
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你那個還是設計我是意思說功能上你希望達到什麼樣的目的設計我知道環圍還有就與時定定環圍 過去也很環圍第三個就是環保環保 |
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好 我本來期待聽到更多不一樣的答案我想基本上大概就只有這樣子而已就只有這樣要花多少經費來做改版我們要花多少經費來做改版我們每張報告寫了就是說我們每張會增加1.5塊好 總裁因為我今天要質詢的議題很多好 |
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我再次恭喜總裁就是說我們又回到環球金融雜誌又回到把你列為A減總裁A-的總裁又回到A那這一次能夠創立這樣子再回到A-最主要原因有四個原因包括我們經濟成長表現得還不錯我們今年有達到2.1還有通膨我們控制得還不錯剛剛其他委員有質詢到我們再次 |
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低于2%在2%跟1.65之间还有踩渐进式的货币紧缩政策第四个就是我们灵活的总体审查的一些相关的政策在里头包括赖总统也提到包括在今年国庆上他也特别提到亚英今年最新报告我们今年的成长我们经济成长率由3.3%上调到5.1% |
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在亞洲四小龍裡面我們也再次要上第一名我們的經濟成長也超越了中國大陸我想請問總裁就說從這幾個數據主計處上一次我問他他說我們今年年初的時候我問他他說今年經濟成長預估大概4.45%而已因為可能會有關稅不確定性的因素在那因為現在已經10月中了 |
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所以他預估說會到5%我們央行是4.55雅營是5.10我想請問一下總裁就是說我們看雅營這個數字你會不會覺得它是過於樂觀還是說你覺得主計處是過於保守 |
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因為每差一點 差0.5就差很多因為就是說我剛剛也有報告就是說從我們的4.55我們的數據是到8月底但是到9月10月到目前為止 |
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總裁我問的是全年所以我想請問你對於這個數據你預估你到目前為止到9月4.5所以到年底你預估是多少所以我們年底要預估多少我們12月才會公佈所以你不能預估我們現在沒辦法 |
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但是我跟你怎麼看你怎麼看我覺得他們不是說太樂觀而是他們收集到的一個資訊是比較完整的所以你看那你覺得亞銀的數字是怎麼樣亞銀的數據不值得參考也不是太樂觀可能他的probability我們現在只能用機率他的probability也蠻高的 |
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但是賴總統是用亞營的數字賴總統賴總統是用亞營的數字代表他對於你們的數字是打問號的我要提醒總裁沒關係總裁我想提一下明年那我再回過頭來明年整體大家對於明年整體的經濟成長其實都 |
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所以我們央行包括明年外界有在講說可能會雪崩式的下跌到3%以下那我們有什麼樣 |
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因應的策略跟政策我跟委員報告這邊就是說有一些的報告說是會雪崩式的下跌我是不認同那你不要講雪崩會下跌到3%下跌第一個有很大的一個因素第一個就是說因為你的前面的基期就已經很高了所以他會下來我認為是也是合理的 |
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那總裁我請問你的因應工具是什麼不管他最後結果是什麼不管結果是什麼不管是2%還是3%我當然不希望是3%以下但是你因應的策略跟工具到底是什麼我覺得啦我覺得所以我們的貨幣政策我們就看看我們的情況事實上我覺得假設說我們明年是3%的話我覺得3%還算是不錯的 |
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3%不是算是很低的3%算是很好的那如果2%或2.5%的話你的因應策略是什麼我只問你說你的因應策略是什麼2.5%到3%都算不錯所以如果有3%的話你的因應策略不會出動就對了大概如果說還有3%的話我覺得如果2%或2.5%你的因應策略是什麼 |
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那再看嘛我現在也沒辦法來回答委員的這個問題啊你的工具擺在前面你手上哪些工具事實上是清楚我們的貨幣政策跟匯率政策就是這兩個工具嘛 |
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貨幣政策就是利息的調整或是存款準備率或是open market operation就是說一個那個總裁我希望要提早做準備因為全世界大家對於明年還不只台灣全世界明年整理經濟下修的狀況我不知道會不會連帶性的風險我不清楚 |
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但是我覺得隨時要做好那個風險會另外剛才有其他委員講到就是說雖然CPI我們控制還不錯但是民生通膨的問題雖然是你想說低薪資所得感受特別深但是事實擺在眼前我們每一年都在講 |
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民生通膨的問題非常的嚴重但這幾年事實上都沒有改善包括在雞蛋在肉類在素食在麵包還有外食族跟租金事實上通膨是一年比一年高所以我們才講說這是失溫的經濟失溫的體感經濟對人民對於很多大多數民眾在那個金字塔中下階段大家是生活的非常非常辛苦而且是一年比一年辛苦那總裁我們的因應策略做法是什麼 |
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我覺得剛剛的委員 不可能不改雖然央行是看一個整體但是對於民生通膨的問題到底怎麼處理這個就是說低所得的民生的物價的持續在上升事實上沒有 是越來越穩定的你覺得是越來越穩定是越來越穩定的 是越來越下降的所以一個排骨飯 |
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越來越高你覺得其實價格是越來越低沒有說我沒有說因為我時間已經到了你說你覺得價格是越來越穩定現在多數的民眾領到薪水他們都會認為我的薪水即便有漲幅2% 3%但是全部都被民生通膨吃掉了 |
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这是真正民生的感受如果总裁你的感受是这样包括各部会的看法也是这样难怪现在民进党政府离所有的民意离民众实在是越来越遥远因为这就是失温的经济失温的体温经济人民是过得越来越辛苦事实上我们的薪资今年的薪资包括服务业跟那个什么服务业跟那个我们的制造业工业 |
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他的我們的那個實質薪資是正的我知道是正的但是很多人也感受到現在民生CPI的成長所有長的薪資都被統統去掉這也是另外一個事實這也是另外一個事實所以新總裁有機會雖然你這一次再回到A-的總裁還是回到民生多走動走動了解各個民生階層的看法好不好謝謝李燕秀李委員 |
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谢谢大家 |