| IVOD_ID |
164660 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164660 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T10:23:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T10:32:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d36de73a47e7253847cbd78a287304ef9f61e6bfef52f5c0937a4feae0cd811d6a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:23:24 - 10:32:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長及財政部關務署首長就「非洲豬瘟防檢疫後續防疫精進作為」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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請做詢問謝謝主席 我們請部長我們再請陳部長我也好部長 我想要了解就是說現在為什麼10月10號台中的養豬場的豬隻出現死亡之後 |
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然後他們沒有第一時間做相對應的處理我們的SOP到底是怎麼訂的 |
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這也是我們為什麼這個會啟動疫調的非常重要的一個詢問的地方因為一般出現異常死亡的時候地方政府動保處人員要第一時間去看那有可能是一般的疾病或是管理的不當那也有可能有其他的病方但是如果有異常死亡的話應該要更敏感的去檢測啦所以依照我們一般的SOP是如果有豬場 |
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出現了死亡而且是異常的死亡我跟委員報告 異常的死亡齁如果是以200頭以上到500頭以下齁他只要租場裡面有百分之 |
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3%的话我们就叫异常那异常的部分我们就会地方政府就会去去查嘛都有一定的标准所以异常死亡不是随便讲的这个SOP都有定的非常清楚嘛所以到底到了什么程度一定要去做通报这个你们也讲得非常清楚嘛我觉得我们这一次虽然 |
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要疫調可是我們要把重新這個SOP拿出來檢討到底是哪一個環節出了問題然後呢好10月10號台中養豬場豬隻出現死亡之後然後呢台中市政府10月14號是有去訪視的喔結果訪視沒有採樣 |
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我想这个东西就是我们一定要去了解的就是当初没有采样是事主不同意采样还是当初是事主可以不同意采样吗不可以如果说动保人员觉得应该要采样的时候事主不得拒绝所以这个部分也是我们要去了解的对这就是我们要了解的事主是不能拒绝的所以这个关键点我觉得这里有两个关键点这也是这个案子发生之后我们希望在未来各县市 |
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一定要警惕就是說10月10號出現了死亡為什麼你們沒有去做相對應的動作因為我們有說嘛 異常異常有一個標準到底他是不是有到達異常好10月14號為什麼去到現場訪視沒有採樣這很嚴重耶到底是因為 |
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施主不同意可是施主是不能不同意啊因為你已經發現了要去採樣而且有問題了那就有強硬的動作嘛我們的反應都已經定的非常清楚好之後沒有採樣一直到10月20累計死亡到117頭 |
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那麼台中市政府才採樣送檢中央你看這當中多久 十天十天耶 |
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这是非常严重所以这10天到底是哪一个环节松了我觉得我们要把这个案件变成是一个非常重要我们以后警惕其他县市政府一个很重要的关键是的我想透过这样的一个很清楚的厘清以后那一定有一些必须改进的然后你们就化为新的一个作为然后会通报到通讯到其他的县市政府是 |
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這才是最重要然後到了10月21號中央收到檢體並檢驗呈陽性你們就開始動作了對不對就開始動作了好包括我們馬上召開應變的措施會議然後馬上要求要把豬隻整個移動作為管制他到底他的整個足跡到哪裡 |
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他的株枝再運到哪裡都要整個管制然後也進行了撲殺那我要問部長那請問我們現在掌控因為畢竟有20天10天 有10天這樣的一個時間空窗期有10天好 這10天我們有掌控這些株枝的所有軌跡嗎 |
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有 我們所有的因為我們是以車追廠以廠在追車那從化製車的還有運租車的這些軌跡它整個大範圍的大概關聯廠有33廠那大部分都在台東地區然後比較接近的跟這廠有直接關係的就是有去買租的這個廠 |
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沒有異常然後有載運的這個場沒有異常方圓三公里的沒有特別的死亡異常所以現在我們有掌控到方圓三公里的周邊是沒有異常的他的軌跡是沒有異常的那但是還有一些我們目前還在做疫調疫調在了解在追蹤當中33場我們預計這33場多久可以給我們民眾一個安心我想我們預計是在 |
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第一個就是五天之內我們有一個初步的結果但是因為有一些潛伏期我們也不能掉以輕心但是我們在前進的應變所裡面每一天都有工作會議看進度然後會跟外界做記者會對外說明 |
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我們一定要讓這個訊息完整的對外說明讓民眾來非常公開透明每一次我們有什麼樣的訊息我們就對外因為這不僅是我們食的安全還有我們整個整個豬隻產業的問題所以這牽扯到兩個層面所以我們一定要把它很公開告訴大家現在的狀況到達什麼樣的程度 |
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那么我们现在也已经拉高了是不是我们整个一个circle控制的circle是15天是不是我们也是把这样的区块定为15天但是5天5天做一个循环报告对我们15天是因为它有可能的潜伏期所以我们定15天但是我们每5天做一个观察那观察到 |
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可能第二個五天的時候如果說我們的疫調有更完整的疫調它沒有對外擴散的風險的時候那我們也許有機會先做部分的解除或是全部的解除這個我們後續才能夠判斷對 因為我們必須如果當我們資訊公開的話然後我們把整個位階拉高然後不斷的一個區段一個區段跟民眾報告跟我們的租资產業報告我相信大家才會安心 |
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尤其這一段時間我相信這樣的訊息傳出在我們的產業在我們的食的安全大家都是放大眼睛在看所以我覺得部長這個部分是我們的我們一定要給民眾安心的一個責任我們一定把相關的資訊一定隨時對外說明 |
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494.45 |
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所以我覺得這件事情有兩個環節一個就是為什麼在10月10號發生的時候沒有直接通報而且在10月14號沒有去採樣到了10月20才做採樣把整個檢體送中央這個一定要查而且這個絕對是未來我們給各縣市的一個非常好的一個樣板跟警惕大家不能再犯 |
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494.813 |
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494.919 |
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谢谢大家 |
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495.8 |
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522.942 |
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這個一件事就已經搞得這樣子人仰馬翻大家嚇死了所以這個是絕對不能再犯這是一個問題第二個問題是我們整個資訊公開透明把我們整個足跡這個有問題的豬支廠它相關的足跡整個把它疫調的清清楚楚報告所有的人民我相信人民就會安心謝謝 |