| IVOD_ID |
164648 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164648 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-23T09:34:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-23T09:48:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1f1f5c91750503d3e72bf208a67dabbf48629de9594d8cbe3bd93a97ab146713a3b85e23f7c4a8dc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:34:50 - 09:48:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請楊總裁請楊總裁老遠早你早我比較關心新台幣要改版的事情現在是限定在千元跟百元嗎還是什麼 銅板沒有 |
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我想我們會一系列的啦不是 因為你報告有寫嘛你報告已經寫了嘛 基本上銅板不會改嘛銅板不會 銅板不會因為那個清車道成本比較高嘛對不對 紙鈔你要改嘛是不是 所以我就跟你確定說是不是一千塊的也要改 一百塊的也要改是不是可能 |
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我們會諮詢委員我們就是一系列這樣的來討論這個總裁啊我原來都覺得你很獨立沒有政治考量你這個的話就是呼應 |
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這個執政黨的這種轉型正義的做法嘛原來彭總裁的手在那裡說不用蓋 蓋得到他五百億 要五百億結果你原來去年的時候 今年吧是不是那個什麼十二強去年還是今年啊 |
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我跟委員報告基本上我們這一次的改版絕對不會有政治上的一個考量 |
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因為我們這邊寫得很清楚啊我們的鈔券都已經24年如果相較於主要的國家來比較我們真的是很慢了美國最近也沒有改版啊 |
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美國有嗎美國也改版很久以前啦2016年我說我們這邊也有一個有啦 但是你沒有列美國啊美國就跟你講美國改版是把華盛頓的人頭原來小小的變成大大的 |
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是這樣子人頭是把小小的變大大的改版是這樣改的你現在來講的話這個很清楚就是轉型正義的後面的以法工作絕對沒有絕對沒有我在國衛殿堂呢我不會打狂語而且 |
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我比较另外一个角度给你看啦我本来对你是很尊敬的啦我希望以后要继续啦不能继续尊敬啦因为你的任期到什么时候 |
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可能還兩年左右兩年半啦 你兩年半嘟嘟好這個東西嘟嘟好 你要接任期的時候接起來看要不要接第三任就變這樣沒有沒有 委員講得太遠了講得太遠會讓我沒辦法 |
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委員講得太遠了讓我沒辦法想像你說從開始這個委員會謝謝委員不過委員一直都在支持我們還有鼓勵我們我們也希望這一個改版的事情委員能夠支持我們 |
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如果太多政治的話就不會支持了不會啦 不會啦那我就問你 準備花多少錢啊 你跟我講啦準備花多少錢我們這邊也有講啊就是說一張的成本會加1.5元不是啦 那你全部要花多少錢啊包括紙面板什麼之類的我說看我們的發行的量啦 |
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但是我跟各位 我跟委員報告如果說以現在目前的量過去發電量多少現在目前現在是50億流通在 |
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你們兩個跟他講話時間要把我扣掉了現在就是說我們流通在外的是10億張但是他會慢慢的下來但是就是說因為他的張數沒辦法控制不曉得因為他會有下降的一個趨勢我們只列出就是說每張1.5 |
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增加1.5增加1.5那你看看我們報告委員那就是60億沒有報告委員我跟你報告一下3.5我們如果一張3.5增加到1.5的話大概是增加40%左右但是你要想想看24年 |
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對不對 24年增加那你現在的物料什麼的啊24年 然後增加百分之四十五我覺得是合理的現在都還沒辦法評估嘛因為它的量未來它的量不曉得啊我跟委員報告我們那個時候的五百億 |
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五分之四以上都是銅板 |
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五分之四以上都是銅牌那乘以五分之一好了那是一百億啊那乘以五分之一就一百億啊五分之一啦好了就五分之一一百億嘛所以我果然沒錯嘛就是要改這個要一百億嘛那是以前的估算啦那是以前的估算現在估算更高啊現在不曉得啊要看那個張數啊不是 現在物價的成本物價上漲能夠增加所以我就說1.5啊1.5啊所以我說喔如果說我們不現在改版的話呢成本會更高 |
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成本會更高所以現在時間現在的時點是剛好啦24年我們這邊來看的話14年16年11年到24年那我們是最慢的這個鈔票是什麼地方愛了你的銀啦這個東西 |
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一千塊的也沒有政治人物啊一千塊的有誰有誰啊你講到這裡的時候我也跟你報告所以呢我們的土壤你看看像包括就是說我們那個科技我們的科技你看看我們那個科技我們一千塊跟兩千塊的科技跟我們現在台灣的一個科技來比較的話我覺得啊 |
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哇 我們科技發展得很怪所以我總覺得 那是那個我們要與時俱進與時俱進 這個東西你說沒有你的考量是大家是不會相信的啦沒有沒有沒有 絕對沒有最少我都不會相信的 |
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跟這個有關係的世界十二強的時候我們有紀念幣紀念銀幣一幣一枚是1600塊預購上限36000枚那是好多人要結果抽籤抽到結果繳款只有2.85剩下7500 |
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你怎麼處理我們就是說他有繳款的我們就製造這麼多我們就製造這麼多因為為什麼會上線因為有很多人就怕抽不到 |
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所以他就重複的去那個他重複下單結果他抽到重複下單他抽到6個那當然他大概是繳款所以你不會再發行不會啦因為我覺得這樣的話造成我們的困擾這是第一個第二個好像市場上也認為就是說延太久的時候也會冷掉 |
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這個世界十二強老實講都認為紀念幣不錯啊 我也覺得不錯啦當然啦 我們會 但是現在就是已經確定了確定就說他繳款的是有多少萬枚 那我們就製造我們再看喔 那個總裁 美國下手決定降息 一般預估他會降息嘛 對不對 |
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我在想Market都是認為就是說它會降息而且它的Chairman Power他好像也Hint說10月跟12月可能都會降息所以各將一馬 對市場也是這樣的意思降了之後台幣就有升值壓力囉 |
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這個也難說啦上一次他不是降息嗎結果他降息之後美元反而強起來所以不要在這裡做猜測這種不是預測這種是猜測猜測的時候我覺得猜測的時候會誤導我們的投資人 |
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所以說美國降息 美金會再往上漲這個我不敢這麼說我只是說前面的那個例子就是說他降息的結果呢在美元後面 美元就漲起來那你看喔 川普上任之後 川普的一個做法是盡量不要cash所以黃金一直漲 比特幣一直漲黃金我們要看有沒有增加買啊 |
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央行有沒有多拿一點黃金 最近 |
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我們沒有 今年開始都沒有增加不過我跟委員報告基本上主要的專案銀行都沒有買黃金去買的是俄羅斯俄羅斯 中國大陸哈薩克可以買當然哈薩克是small還有印度這些大概就是說因為印度也是 |
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印度的民間一般來講他中央銀行他是也有買但是民間主要的還是民間的力量不是中央銀行的力量最近的黃金的上漲是民間的力量不是中央銀行的力量所以黃金或是你不干擾這個我不去猜測他我也不去預測他 |
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因為你可以看到川普的貸金實施等於說他告訴全世界或有現金都會貶值所以最好是或有其他非現金的一些資產包括黃金包括比特幣這種講法對不對這個我覺得他也不是這麼說 |
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現象這樣現象最後一個小問題韓國總統說如果因為美國要他cash他本來說政府融資要保證他都不接受要cash三千五百億他的外存底大概四千多億啊對不對所以他說會引起亞洲金融風暴日本也不答應啊結果我們通通答應了我們要去亞我們要投資四千億我們的外存底只有六千億不到對不對五千八嘛 |
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我們的市監獄呢我也不曉得是不是真的就所說的但是即使是有這個市監獄但是大部分都是我們民間的啦不是官方啦我知道啦但是外匯存底啊外匯存底當然是民間的啦外匯存底當然是民間他還是要跟你買匯啊 |
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他說我們去那邊去投資的那些他的賺那個美元他賺得很多他不必要在市場買他現在是賣所以我就說他不必用到我們的外市場的不必要韓國說如果他投資3500億會有亞洲金融風暴這一句話 |
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你認不認同即使我想他沒有說亞洲金融風暴他是說他會發生金融危機他沒有說亞洲會發生金融危機好像是說他說他韓國會發生金融危機你認不認同這句話當然啦 我知道台灣很健全 |
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不是啊 韓國會不會有金融風暴啦他如果去3500億我們台股也是不錯啊 我覺得啊我問你韓國 你跟我講台股台股啊 你說台股嗎沒有 我說韓國會不會金融風暴你說韓國怎麼樣會不會 因為他的總統說如果去投資3500億的話會產生金融風暴他是說他 他不是說亞洲對 那他會 你同意不同意 |
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這個我也很難想像啦 我也很難想像說他是三千五百億 這個不要去問我啦應該是要去問他的中央銀行總裁啦還有跟他問他的財政部部長你今天給你都亂說話喔讓我對你的出鏡少了好幾分耶總裁有他的看法啦 寶哥好 謝謝 |