| IVOD_ID |
164625 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164625 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-26-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T13:33:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T13:39:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4dab313e5b877ca961234f1f132b5784e0493e73b30866c193642d90c1ed0ab56cb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:33:26 - 13:39:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：審查
一、委員洪孟楷等21人擬具「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」案。
二、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」案。
三、委員羅廷瑋等20人擬具「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」案。
四、委員王育敏等16人擬具「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」案。
五、委員王鴻薇等20人擬具「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」案。
六、委員楊瓊瓔等19人擬具「外送平台管理暨從業人員權益保障法草案」案。
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好謝謝主席我請部長請同部長王委員好部長在今天早上的提案說明裡面我就有特別提到因為呢兩大外送平台業者包含Foodpanda還有UberEat分別在101年跟105年就進入台灣那事實上在這個產業在台灣已經存在13年之久 |
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那麼而且呢因為這個新型的產業的產生他當然出現了非常多的相關的勞資糾紛甚至有消費糾紛但是所以這個案子呢這個法案我必須說因為政府的非常的怠惰而使得我們中央的立法的腳步甚至呢比地方還不如 |
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那麼過去呢我們也有數次包含就是前我們勞動部長我又都質詢過我們有很多委員質詢過都是這樣子說個人是支持但是呢就是一直在踢皮球一直在踢皮球今天早上你說 |
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願意在跟我們這個在立法院提出來能夠好好的研究而且你說呢你也曾經跟關心的委員提出討論請問一下你跟哪些委員來討論啊幾位其實對這個議題上關心的委員提案的委員算不算關心當然算我就是提案委員之一啊你有跟我討論過嗎 |
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好像沒有吧好我今天也問了齁陳昭之委員他是代表民眾黨因為是民眾黨團提案嘛對不對請問你有跟民眾黨團有討論過嗎有嗎你自己這你幹嘛還要看我看別人你有討論過嗎我問他他說完全沒有我就覺得奇怪了我們關心關心這個草案這個立法的我們提案委員不算關心嗎 |
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我想你跟討論大概都是民進黨團的委員吧可是民進黨團從昨天開記者會之外之前一個版本都沒有啊你們行政院也在推脫啦所以你怎麼會在這邊睜眼說瞎話呢好像你非常關心跟關心的委員在討論提案委員沒有關心嗎提案的黨團不關心嗎但是都沒有得到你要跟我們來討論 |
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所以這個當然是現在整個的一個社會的氛圍老實說在大罷免時期我們站在街頭上對我們回應最正向的除了小黃七層車問獎司機大哥之外就是很多的外送員的朋友啊因為長期被政府所漠視啊你們現在感受到這樣的一個政治壓力了現在來關心 |
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但是我們還是樂觀其成因為我們早上都說我們希望能夠加速好那我想請問部長未來這個草案因為很多都是用勞動部可是你們在之前一直都講說因為這個平台都用汽車貨運業而且你們也指定行政院已經指定交通部作為平台的管理機關好那請問一下我們這個專法未來主管機關是誰呢 |
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你們要繼續推給交通部嗎跟委員說明喔第一個法的主管機關我們願意勞動部願意來承擔好所以你們勞動部終於願意當這個專法的主管機關了法的主管機關勞動部願意來承擔但的確這裡面比方說涉及到一些平台比方說平台跟消費者平台跟商家這部分會需要其他部會一起來協助那這部分可能也需要在法裡面把它給框定清楚 |
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因為到你們的報告裡面仍然是說因為他們用貨運運送業者來做登記所以這治理機關是交通部所以我才要問那未來這個主管機關現在勞動部終於願意願意扛起這個責任因為過去通通踢皮球對不對何佩珊也踢皮球洪森漢也踢皮球現在終於正式面對 |
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那另外因為交通部的講法也是說如果涉及交通的部分我們當然就是會全力的配合交通部也把他限縮是你涉及交通部分我才願意全力的配合那所以我在這邊確定一個未來會不會有院版 |
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跟委員說明我們現在在行政部門的版本上我們也進入到這個條文最後研擬的階段那的確後面還有一些其實跟跨部會有關的這個在這個立法過程這個會期會被提出院版嗎我們應該是可以趕在這個會期前 |
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348.379 |
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這個會期前大概什麼時候這個會期我們希望要到1月31號我們希望在三個月內三個月內不過這個實在是太晚了我剛講雖然你們終於願意面對但是時間實在是牛步化那所以我們立法院我們還是會積極的推動好不好我們也希望盡快謝謝好謝謝王宏威委員發言請林楚英委員發言 |