| IVOD_ID |
164582 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164582 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T11:35:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T11:41:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4daf3d15ea6a39d5c62e072f7c27276b8ae83c966d97180d5d2ec4005c00d4bcaf05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:35:21 - 11:41:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 也要麻煩我們郭部長我們再請龔部長能源署長也可以陪一下 可能會比較熟悉郭部長我今天跟您討論一下就是上次七月的時候這個屏東交通外海太陽光電浮台試驗場域案的後續那我不是要跟你討論執行的東西好或不好而是後續的處理問題跟誠實的問題 |
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经济部那时候在7月多的时候有发新闻稿表示业者已经在台风来之前已经拆除了光电板请问一下我们经济部发这个新闻稿这件事情的时候是业者口头跟我们说还是业者有提供一些客观的一个资讯给我们经济部是这个有照片那事实上我们发这个新闻是说他的光电板已经都拆走但他留在海上的是福台那是福台不是光电板 |
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因為到現在目前為止我想包括當初有許多的委員都跟我們的經濟部要當初拆卸的照片或者是說現在光電板到底在哪裡那現在我們能源署有辦法提供嗎 |
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我們可以請業者那些光電板業者收回去了他儲藏在他自己儲存的地方有提供給我們能源署嗎我們沒有因為對我們來講我們沒有需要他提供這個資料但是我們有現場的照片就是說他是福台他上面是沒有太陽光電板的那你們可以提供這照片吧 |
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這個要我們來跟業者來索取因為當初社會討論很廣泛那一直懷疑說有沒有猜你們一直說有猜但是又沒有辦法提供照片所以後續我們經濟部應該可以提供我們來跟業者確認日期這是業者的資料那跟委員報告就是說當時是福台那後來受到風災吹到海上來吹到岸上來的我們收集到的也全部都是福台並沒有任何的 |
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太陽光電比較重會沉那我想確認一下業者你們能不能去確認一下因為每一個光電板應該都有它的序號對不對光電板都有序號每一個序號所以它當初那個暗場的光電板也都有登錄嘛對不對序號是光電板出廠的時候都會有嘛那它建置在現場是哪些序號在現場其實這裡都追蹤的到嘛對不對 |
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因為他現在收回去了所以他現場並沒有對 原本放在海上的嘛原本放在海上的這是他購買的他購買的太陽能板應該能夠追查到他說原本要放在海上的這些光電板的序號我們應該都要有才對 |
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我們有辦法去做後續的集合確認一下他所說光電板放在哪一邊那些光電板的序號跟當初申請加東外海的這些光電板的序號去對一個集合確認這些光電板真的都有收起來在他現在所說的倉庫裡面這點做得到嗎 |
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這個因為它是一個實驗計畫我們所以當時並沒有去登記它的序號是多少那這個我們可以跟業者來要求看看環境部一定有台電也一定有應該是沒有啦因為它是試驗計畫它整個環境部就規範每一個太陽能板都必須要有序號你才能夠並連接電啊 |
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每一個出廠都有序號然後你要繳回匯金啊所以你在哪裡本來就是一套環境部那時候都一直在說明每一塊供電板一定都追蹤得到它在哪裡然後後續怎麼處置你現在跟我說序號找不到它這一個不是商業經營它是一個實驗計畫實驗計畫就不用序號嗎 |
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實驗計畫就出所有的太陽盲板那你怎麼追蹤這些實驗場的序號這些光電板後續要怎麼處理包括後續的回收這都是要靠序號來追蹤啊只要他業者不丟棄的話那你怎麼知道他有沒有丟棄你沒有序號你怎麼知道他有沒有丟棄所以我們有序號的意義就是說如果他有丟棄到外面 |
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最重要的意義就是追蹤嘛對不對那既然我們現在國家有這個序號的一個制度那我們應該就可以靠我們的序號去追蹤當初應該在海上的光電板現在到底在哪邊他說在哪邊我們應該也可以去做一個集合這應該是非常簡單的一件事情 |
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這個序號是我們如果查到他有丟棄置在任何一個地方我們可以從這一個序號去追蹤他的來源好沒關係我剛剛講的你們能不能做到就是依照序號去查當初在海上的光電板現在到底在哪邊是不是業者有誠實的來做我們回報 |
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可不可以去做后续的稽查因为它是试验计划我们没有登记它的需要但是我们可以来咨询这些业者因为试验计划它本来试验完成业者就要把所有的浮台跟光电板回收回他的工厂他如果有遗落在外的 |
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我們就可以從那個需要去追蹤到哪裡依照這條線索去找出來那包括我想確認一下這個福台計畫我們補助的金額是只有福台嗎還是整個計畫有沒有去把它做這個拆分 |
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他整個計畫是當然有福台跟太陽能板而且他要在海上做對所以我有一個疑問假設現在的這些當初補助的經費裡面包含福台包括光電板現在計畫終止了那這些光電板如果業者一去他他處使用的話這有沒有違法的一個問題所以我才要我們的能源署盡快的去追蹤這些能源這些光電板他現在到底在哪邊是跟委員報告他的計畫一個是環境污染的問題還沒有終止 |
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一個是我們補助的問題補助的東西他就只能在這邊用不能夠拿到其他場域用這是絕對的規範 這絕對沒有錯吧我們沒有補助他去構置這些東西你就是整個計畫包含嘛好不好 沒關係時間到了也不要再讓大家太多的時間就依照序號去做這兩件事情去追蹤他的目前的最終的流向在哪確認他到底有沒有一致他的暗場使用好不好 以上兩點再麻煩 |