| IVOD_ID |
164559 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164559 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T11:03:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T11:09:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4da5ef6deadfccb3842e072f7c27276b8ae83c966d97180d5d24034e7fd9a14e5935ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:03:32 - 11:09:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席有請我們的工部長我們再請工部長賴委員好你好我只有兩個簡單問題第一個 |
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這個賴總統說有好消息啊應該就講關稅有好消息那好消息是不是就是確定兩件事情 確定一下是不是關稅不再跌加20%往下降 是不是 |
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方向上是這樣不疊加然後往下降最多能降多少呢我認為了不起跟韓國日本一樣降到15%15%是最低的如果是順差國15%是最低的就降到15%所以最好的情況就是不疊加降到15%確定嗎但是我要強調的一定是 |
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是時間點啊timing啊我們從4月5月開始談哇那時候好了不起喔我說台灣全世界前10個國家有5個國家能夠跟美國談關稅結果一談談到現在好幾個國家都已經確定了我們一直沒有確定有一種講法坊間一個講法媒體有一種講法就說啊因為在 |
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川習會會面之前台灣不會搞定一定要之後才搞定即便你現在講了什麼什麼什麼之類的之後就等於說我們還是在被中美的談判的框架裡面我們還是被制約的照理講賴總統如果講這麼好的消息出來 |
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趕快去搞定啊這兩天就把它確定了啊對不對 結果現在看起來就是要等到APEC之後等於是川習見了面以後台灣再搞定這個事情你覺得怎麼樣報告委員 的確 |
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是有這樣的說法這是時間上確定嗎這個是時間上有這樣的說法就是說可能他比較優先的因為美中的這個貿易比較複雜而且量比較大我們不複雜 |
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所以時間上來講的話他可能會比較來處理對中的事某種程度就是我們的重要性不如中國大陸嘛很清楚吧就這樣子啊我們的半導體是全世界最好的我知道哪裡只有半導體啊那其他他要希望大陸的稀土啊還要希望大陸買他的大豆啊 |
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對不對 他的大陸籌碼多啊 我們的籌碼少啊我們籌碼就一個 就晶片 相關產業但是報告委員 我們跟美國人談的部分你所謂的框架是沒有在中國的框架之下是完全不一樣的你剛才同意啦 就是站在後面啦時間 時間的關係時間對啊 站在後面啦但是談判的內容 框架是沒有的我們談是在前面談耶 |
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阿為什麼要在後面內容上是完全無關我知道啦 但是你就是說我們談在什麼就是很讓人很嘔的地方啦阿我們就照著該講阿而且台美關係不是很好嗎簡若磐石嗎阿怎麼會擺一擺擺到後面去了談判也有彼此的堅持阿還是要有時間阿因為我們也有我們的堅持我們有堅持嗎我們都學不放阿 |
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我們能夠談到你剛剛講的不叠加如果確定可以談到15%嗎 |
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努力啦 努力的方向不是 確定啊 是不是確定不是 這個是我們努力的方向你剛剛確定喔你剛剛確定喔 這個是我們努力的方向我們努力的方向 對但是要付出什麼代價蕭美錦副總統是講啦代價就是我們整個晶片的supply chain都過去啦對不對 從上面的design到晶圓代工到整個封裝 伺服器 通通過去啦一邊這樣子 |
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台灣半導體的生態系還是會留在台灣 而且還會壯大你知道這樣一來的話有幾家廠要去 你知道嗎沒有 台灣的半導體的生態系你跟我講 因為我時間不要佔用後面的時間有幾家廠要過去 有幾家沒有 我們知道的就是說他會去投資美國並不表示要搬過去 不是這樣的意思 |
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投資這某程度 你是程度差別而已啦因為台灣也會壯大啊 台灣壯大除了台積電供現金有超過一兆以上很多的supply chain沒有啊 包括比如說封裝廠它有這麼多現金嗎伺服器的代工廠有這麼多現金嗎它整個都是supply chain的一環 |
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他還沒有這麼多錢啊可以說我在台灣一個在美國一個他整個來講不要忘了如果這些補那麼多過去的話我看到的是什麼台灣的年輕人下一代我們下下代 |
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他們的工作機會會大幅減少我看到的是這個東西現在台灣的高科技產業是缺人才所以還缺很多所以我們需要更多的人才所以只要你一直沒有回答我就告訴你整個supply chain是數百家到上千家的supply chain整個我們看到的是都過去我不相信說 |
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我們所有的數百家上千家都可以說台灣一個廠美國一個廠沒有上千家啦我不相信沒有這麼厲害啦除了台積電幾個幾個很大的廠所以這個去美國投資如果這家公司不賺錢他就不會去啊 |
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他為什麼要去 如果不賺錢我幹嘛去那邊公司阿我們副總統 一定會賺錢才會去我們副總統已經講了 都說要去的阿就這樣講阿所以他是跟國內跟國外的部長 那因為委員很關心你詳細再跟委員說明清楚謝謝 |