| IVOD_ID |
164550 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164550 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T10:30:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T10:37:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4dadfb25ff2cfc6058d01812ea37d1526ba83c966d97180d5d2b4a53015686257145ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:18 - 10:37:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部就「替代役訓練及備役召集運用」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查「替代役實施條例」：(一)委員王美惠等18人擬具「替代役實施條例第五十九條條文修正草案」案。(二)委員羅美玲等18人擬具「替代役實施條例增訂第五十五條之五條文草案」案。(三)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「替代役實施條例第五十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
【10月22日及23日兩天一次會】） |
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劉部長跟議政司現在部長跟議政司委員好部長其實今天這一題雖然我們在花蓮的時候就在那有做了這個替代的這些召集的運用那其實就跟一個概念就是防災式的概念那我今天想要舉瑞士跟日本 |
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兩個國家針對防災或者是國防的這些案例來跟內政部來做一個討論那第一個就今天的主題防災來講日本從2003年來開始就把這個防災式的概念法制化那目前我剛剛也聽了其他委員的槌尋那議政司的回應就是針對我們目前所有的替代役退役之後慢慢累積這些防災式 |
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所以我在這邊也建議議政司可以有更多積極的方式或者是參考他國的這些方式因為台灣面對非常多的天然災害等等的這一次的花蓮除了義工們我們內政部妥善的可以召集這些替代役可以回來參與救災我想都是非常值得正面再去進一步探討的來 司長請你回應一下 |
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稍等再請部長回應另外一個問題謝謝是感謝委員的視角我們防災式的訓練這個我們這個政策我們今年期我們就積極的來推廣所以不只有要有方法我們隨時等內政部提出相關的這些方法出來我們今年所有在成功嶺接受訓練就新的啦要慢慢累積嘛對新的這一年所有的依然都要接受防災式的訓練並且要起的證照就是 |
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像今年有一萬三千六百五十人都一定要取得這樣的一個證照這是現役的部分所以一年多一萬三對 這個是我們替代役的部分好 那其他的方法請你來整個部裡面我們部長在積極的推動我們希望能夠達到十萬來 我請部長關於備役的部分 |
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我请部长部长刚刚有其他委员也讲到是要战争论吗我觉得不是因为以保二我们去年度在审议预算的时候保二总队警政署保二总队就被讲成说你们买这些反恐器材你们是在 |
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准备要备战吗我想对于目前战争的形态那针对国家重点设施的这些部分包含水库电厂等等的这些的驻卫的警力必须有相关的这些第一时间的这些防备的这些能力这是加强一些训练而不是要准备战争这不要再这样误导所以我们内政部目前做的这一个事情就是 |
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召集替代役來是增加台灣防災任何天然災害的這些任性來部長 |
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是 謝謝剛剛委員有提到所謂的重要關鍵基礎設施現在當然是以寶二為主但是隨著重要的關鍵基礎設施越來越專業化我們除了寶二以外可能地方政府的警察人員也要投入所以這個部分應該跟所謂的什麼要準備戰爭是完全相反就好像說我們國防部有軍人有軍人就是準備要戰爭嗎不是 我們要防衛 |
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對我們自己國家主權的正常防衛應該有的那不能把所有的工作都放在國軍所以這樣子的一個防衛機制裡面我們對於所謂的後備或是對於所謂的替代役也要做一下防災的訓練那這個防災訓練裡面除了現在面對天然災害之外還有一個重要的功能就是萬一有像譬如說像花蓮縣這樣的大規模 |
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大規模的天災產生的時候我們要想辦法維持它的正常運作的功能不是大家都跑去救災然後縣政府或是鄉鎮公所就沒有人上班那這個誰來幫忙當然替代役的訓練可以補充一部分的部分所以這個部分恐怕很多人的會產生誤解然後也有人提到說你的替代役在成功你受訓的時候也要做打靶 |
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但是大家都知道連我們在高中的時候女生也都是要做打靶的訓練不是為了因為打靶訓練就表示準備要上戰場我想這個是太廉價對於這個替代役所以現在有很多看到我們任何部會提出來任性兩個字就是說要戰爭的我覺得這件事情我們必須要 |
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很清楚的说明清楚包含我从刚刚我举的这个宝二对于国家重要设施的例子那对于我们这次替代役的召集这些例子来讲我觉得我们可以透过这些实例让社会更清楚知道目前台湾需要什么 |
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對 報告委員就是我們的預算也是因為有陳議政看到任性兩個字從警政消防每次看到任性就起跳就全部被刪掉或凍結那現在是慢慢恢復所以我們議政是很辛苦啊趕快把這時間裏面補足的訓練量盡量把它補足回來 |
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那也跟委員補充報告一下除了我們現在在成功領受訓的這些現役替代役的防災室訓練高達接近一萬五千以外我們其他的民力機構包括像NGO到目前為止的已經登記而且拿到證照的是有超過七萬多人其實我在這邊也提醒部長還有司長其實當然這不是司長這邊的業務啦那我提醒部長其實我們出生地方有非常多地方的民力可以使用 |
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那透過這些名利包含這些不管是疫警疫消或者是民防等等這一些來推動相關的這些防災式的這些訓練那我覺得都是一個可行的方向報告委員我想委員非常清楚了我們民政司已經要補充給所有的村里長 |
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訓練費用那現在全台灣有四分之一的村里長已經拿到防災式的資格對除了村里長之外很多這些疫警疫消我也推我也建議內政部可以研議那個沒有問題只要他們願意把時間衝出來可能他們現在已經都有防災式的資格可能要再做一下那還是一樣就是我們還有防災協作中心未來的區公所會 |
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分配到有20個到50個是替代役在碰到天然災害的時候會協助區公所就是防災協助中心做必要的專業上面的防災的處理好謝謝最後我針對剛剛部長回應的時候說113年度體檢免疫的比例高達16%我也建議這個跟國防部可以來討論這些相關的標準跟規定謝謝謝謝我們感謝李博義委員執行 |
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