| IVOD_ID |
164531 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164531 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-22T10:28:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-22T10:38:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/615807a88c5be4dae1097dc0bde0233fe072f7c27276b8ae83c966d97180d5d2a00f58aa63e905615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:28:49 - 10:38:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席楊全發言 邀請工部長政委好 |
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公務部長 依據國貿署最新向工會轉資的公文他說美國商務部正嚴寧工具機產業納入232國安條款的調查未來有可能再以國安為由來課徵額外的關稅對台灣的工具機造成了20%在家疊加關稅 |
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而且这个N不知道是多少这个可以说是让我们工具机的产业又是新一波的冲击又在10月19号的报道台中产业园区产办役主的件数它是增加的这个月我们增加了将近20件工厂代售案 |
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那所以呢 這些廠房呢多屬於工具機的相關產業那顯示工具機在這一段時間是急凍那政府應該要聚焦因為政府目前是聚焦在這個半導體跟AI產業那幾乎是忽視了美方已將國安 |
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的視角延伸觸及到實際的實體的製造業所以政府對於整個供應鏈的戰略變化警覺性似乎是嚴重的不足所以我本期要在這邊請教面對工具機產業被納入所謂的232國安條款的調查 |
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經濟部你是不是做好了這個評估要將整體性的出口的一個衝擊產業鏈的關鍵影響度究竟我們要如何的來應對這個效應尤其匯率跟關稅是製造業當中的生死線 |
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匯率跟關稅那政府如果沒有作為全盤的一個戰略工具機的產業勢必會成為國際博弈下的犧牲品請部長說明我想委員有觀察到現在的確美國他把對等關稅的某些項目 |
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慢慢的有些項目移到232區的確是這樣不過公區區他是有這樣的說法不過232基本上他有一個調查的程序通常那個調查程序要高達可能幾個月三個月或六個月然後才會公布他可能的一些 部長我們已經從四月份 |
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美台開始談的時候 政府第一時間叫我們好好睡覺到現在 到8月份告訴我們20家疊加關稅到現在告訴我們說10月底大概會有一個方向 不知道是不是如此所以昨天總統到了我們的會展中心第一展 手工具總統先生也在現場說了 |
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近期很快會有好的報告而且會低於20%的關稅而且是不疊加所以我再一次請教既然說本期當然是充分因為中部地區都是我們的工具機 手工具這些機械類別的扣件等零組件都是在我們這裡我們非常緊張 |
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所有的產業界非常的憂心你還要告訴我們說只有調查還要幾個月 |
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那你也明明知道說你也明明知道說現在列入那到底我們政府第一個請教政府昨天總統先生在這個我們台中會展中心所說的是不是誠如總統先生所說的公布的關稅會低於20%會不會這個本來就是我們努力的方向會低於20%而且是正面的方向第二個不會再疊加 |
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對 這個也是我們努力的方向總統先生昨天就這麼說了說很快會告訴我們這個好的消息那你身為部長啊這個是你最重要的幕僚啊是不是陳儒總統先生所說的那這個很快是什麼時候原本告訴我們是10月那10月底會不會告訴我們還是11月 |
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因為最後的這個叫做最終談判事實上還要看美國的時間跟我們的時間因為美國最近又碰到APEC現在正在進行當中所以美國還有他們要去東協 |
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部長 人民很乖 產業很乖產業希望當政府當他們的靠山大家都很乖 很努力在做事因為您之前政府告訴我們大概這個暫時禁關稅大約10月 |
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所以當然10月現在已經22號啦所以我們一定要請教目前的進度到底是怎麼樣呢技術性的談判大概都已經確認了那最終就是等於是最後的這個所以請教今天10月22號10月底會不會有像總統說的很快會給我們好的訊息 會不會 |
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這個主要還是要看美國的時機所以你還是沒有辦法給本席這個時間我告訴你因為以我們的工具機產業為例日元它的匯兌美元匯率五年來它貶了多少 42.4 |
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那我方我們新台幣最貶的是3.61%所以如果再加上美國對日本的對等關稅他們是15%我們是20%還要再加疊加在這樣的情況之下我們的差距大概10%那導致日本的機器會比台灣的機器它的價格會便宜20%到30%這個就是主要 |
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為什麼我們的產業這麼樣的被冷凍所以我極度嚴厲的要求政府你對於我們這些傳統產業實體的產業你務必要加強去關心去應對是不是 是 |
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這460億一定都是用在傳產上面說老實話不夠 絕對會不夠因為這一些預算從一開始發生事情的時候我們再也就馬上提出要政府編列振興經濟方案怎麼樣來協助我們的產業對不對如果不夠的話我們還有200億可以再提出來就是 部長我還是澄清 您是專家 |
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本席認為產業要聽的是政府的政策政府的方向 政府的時程這非常的重要因為總統先生昨天就已經這麼說了到現在你是經濟部長還沒辦法告訴我們那最後本席再請教您的解讀是不是賴總統所說的也就是不會宣布的時候20%的關稅會比20%更低是不是方向上是這樣 |
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不會疊加關稅是不是那原則上在10月底還是11月可以告訴國人是不是如此因為產業我相信你也非常清楚等不及了我到底要不要接單到底要不要接單不是你們努力的問題而是你要傾聽產業的心聲 |
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我到底要不要接單我到底要不要投資因為我要告訴你在金管會到8月底國營對中小企業的放款10.7兆裡頭雖然叫7月份增加了242億但是是創下重點在這裡創下了7年來同期最低 |
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現在他們怎麼樣呢 只有還錢保生如果我們的產業是這種方式那我們的競爭力在哪裡呢我們的產業到底該怎麼樣的方向呢實際上的數字告訴你是如此啊對 我們前幾個禮拜也帶了供給機業者去參加德國漢恩威的這個這是本席要求 政府必須要 |
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好好的做產業的靠山 對不對所以你如果只有戒心來減少還舊沒有加速 只有還舊加速沒有人加舊啊只有還錢保生啊 |
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你用數字去看啊就是我們對於我們的政策 我們的政府沒有信心才會如此嗎所以用實際的數字告訴你 本席具體要求你們必須要好好針對我們的傳統產業 我們的實體產業96%的勞動業者 勞動員工都在這裡你要好好的來照顧嘛 對不對 |