| IVOD_ID |
164468 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164468 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-21T09:17:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-21T09:49:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:31:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ad817af50721993f6d59fb2e17274568ed3e39e9a6cc0a6183c966d97180d5d2d104b08215f3295d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:17:48 - 09:49:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第5次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院財政、內政、外交及國防、經濟、教育及文化、社會福利及衛生環境六委員會報告審查行政院函請審議「中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案」案等案。（10月17日）二、10月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。（10月21日）） |
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主席謝謝 麻煩請卓榮泰院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢另外今天問到的相關議題部會首長該上來就請上來 謝謝 |
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紅委員好 院長早 院長我們今天一年兩次的總諮詢特別跟您就教非常多的國家大事議題我們也希望台灣能夠更好 中華民國能夠更強所以在今年的10月10號國慶大典裡面看到賴總統跟我們國慶籌辦委員會的主席韓院長也都分別有做相關的支持 |
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我們不希望報喜不報憂我們當然希望台灣越來越好所以韓院長其實在這個國慶大典講話的時候有講出影響台灣未來的三座隱形的映射壺不能台海有戰爭不能放任政黨無死線的惡鬥以及希望對美關稅談判順利院長你認同嗎 |
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這個都是我們日常的工作也是 所以說您認同嗎韓院長這樣子講有沒有惡意韓院長以大會主席的身份在大會的現場所講的話就是我們在現場聽到大會主席整個籌備以及對大會的期許當然有對政府的期許都聽到了立法院院長是最高的民意殿堂的首長 |
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而他代表2350萬人來對政府提出建言也希望中華民國生日許下三個願望往前走說實在話套一句現在網路流行的方向就是希望讓卓院長領導的團隊施政起來能夠匆匆忙忙游刃有餘嘛不要遇到問題的時候才匆匆忙忙連滾帶爬但一樣啊 |
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在這一次講完之後綠營居然出征說唱衰還說家醜外揚院長是事實嗎你的主體叫綠營這個你要去借鏡他到底是哪一方來的所以你現在不認為你是綠營的一份子我們是中華民國行政院好 |
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院長有這樣的一個行政中立就好因為本席認為這是什麼樣的威權心態如果說連善良的正向的正面的建言都不能提的話那國家不會進步 |
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來 院長我們就繼續來討論三個議題第一 我們希望政黨不要無限的惡鬥所以很重要一個部分中央地方要一條心請教一下 輝達現在是一個國際大家都重視的高科技公司他選定 沒有錯台北市政府的兩塊地但實際上我們中央部會不管經濟部 不管商務部共同的來協助因為重點只有一個 |
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就是讓輝達留在台灣不管留在哪個縣市留在台灣就是我們的主體院長現在有一些分分老老請教有沒有信心輝達一定留在台灣 |
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第一個介紹法律問題我覺得這個法律問題不難解決所以大家要一起來解決嘛第二個是我們的經濟發展問題就是經濟發展 高科技的發展我們一定要把像輝達這種國際性大廠留在台灣這是我們共同的共識第三個在政治上如果台北市政府需要中央政府如何的協助我們已經協助有任何需要我們可以再跟台北市政府來合作如果說台北市留不住其他地方願意也可能留住的話我們也願意來促成 |
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我們有看到現在也有提供松南跟林口兩塊地一個在台北一個在新北也剛好是本席的選區不過本席開宗明義就強調重點是留在台灣只要留在台灣不管是台北新北我們都雙手贊成樂觀其成所以我再強調一次院長有沒有信心協助台北市因為現在確實有紛紛擾擾啊而且看到的是現在某家企業他占住這個土地他感覺是在綁架全國人民啊 |
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因為全國人民期待輝達要留在台灣所以說他就刻意要講是說想要繞過台北市政府要跟輝達直接談我們公有地可以這樣私相授受嗎 |
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那屬於中央政府包括內政部該協助核定的一些地上權移轉的問題我們都已經核定了我剛剛說過如果還需要做一些工作讓留在台北中央需要做也合法可以做我們願意做如果台北市沒有辦法願意到其他各縣市我們也願意協助但這個要看這個輝達他本身在這裡設廠投資的 |
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所以不能讓他離開嘛本席現在講的重點在於是說揮打有揮打的想法但是既然揮打已經開眾民意表達說他是要來台灣留在台北市不只是台北市有光台灣也有光 濁內閣團隊也有光 |
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因為T17 18當然他們還在溝通協調但是輝達他還是要讓經濟部說如果17萬一啦我只問一句話啦主委員長有信心讓輝達留在台灣你會做到 |
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百分之百使命必達我們是花最大的決心跟力道希望他留下來所以如果說真的揮打離開的話這就不是只有地方政府的責任中央地方共同承擔可以嗎但是台北市政府必須先把他的法律問題先處理好我覺得這個不難處理來中央地方共同解決再來第二個部分好的事情我們一起來追求我們上禮拜看到新加坡他研議 |
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要讓詐騙犯罪使用鞭刑我們過去在這邊也有專案報告我們也討論詐騙討論非常多我們也一直強調是說詐騙惡可惡至極應該嚴刑峻法新加坡願意往前邁進這一步考慮這樣的一個事情那我知道因為現在台灣沒有鞭刑這樣的一個刑責那可是國人其實普遍對這個議題是非常有感的 |
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那我現在具體的請教院長您怎麼看台灣有沒有資格有沒有權利或說有沒有方法能夠來研究別的國家已經在做的部分我們來思考怎麼樣來嚇阻詐騙不讓詐騙氾濫 |
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這樣邊形的說法我相信在民間是有一些支持的聲音但是更有一些人權的討論我們一直從學校 校園都已經討論誰的人權犯罪者的人權是 是有一些討論犯罪者的人權你現在是要保護犯罪者的人權不是 我說民間有一些團體是在討論這個沒有錯吧我知道是有人支持的但是我們想的做法是我們如何從速審速決而且能夠合理的刑度來讓這些 |
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犯罪者能夠受到社會的感化現在不是這樣做嗎現在不是就是速審速決讓犯罪者要感化但是一樣就是我們詐騙持續猖獗跟委員報告我現在先請教院長院長現在就是這樣所以我們今年度才會有專案報告新加坡今年我給院長一個數字新加坡今年上半年度被詐騙是107億台幣 |
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反觀台灣今年上半年被詐騙的數字是480億台幣是新加坡的四倍之不多如果新加坡被詐騙只有台灣的四分之一都選擇考慮用這樣子嚴刑峻法來去嚇阻詐騙那台灣憑什麼我們沒有更積極的作為 |
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跟委員報告這個事實上我們非常重視這一種的打詐的一個效用所以我們詐偽條例我們有研議在修更重的一個處罰部長你越講話會越失分啦我是希望院長能夠來正視這問題院長我直接我沒有說現在一定因為現在國情有不同討論有不同但是我具體提兩個建議您先聽聽看能做就說能做不能做就說不能做第一 |
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請法務部研究把邊形納入台灣的中華民國憲法並且研究可行性討論相關執行的費用可能受罰的範圍以及利弊得失來做未來行政院跟立法院立法的參考 |
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請外交部跟駐新加坡辦事處來跟新加坡政府了解他們現在已經在推動的邊形包含什麼樣的方向什麼樣的一個目的以及推行的成效可能面對的問題還有因應之道 |
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綜合兩個地方判斷他三之十可以公錯我們可以請法務部來做可行性評估就如同所有的重大建設不是一下子馬上就編預算做執行啊而是我們先做可行性評估但可行性評估半年裡面提出來我們來針對這個議題共同來討論行不行委員剛剛說要 |
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加入到憲法 那這個難度不大那這個是委員建議我們聽到了我想請法務部下巴先了解一下我們適不適合在這個時候做可行性評估 這個要先做所以我現在要做可行性評估的可行性評估時間暫停 那麼外交部長要不要備選 |
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請外交部長好不好剛有提到外交部這是第一個另外就是現在在世界院長我確認一下詐騙已經猖獗那麼多每天有一億多兩億的詐騙現在國人生物痛絕然後你跟我講說你要做可行性評估的可行性評估我們在做其他的方面都有在做努力 |
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就是现在其他方面都在努力但是诈骗还是那么猖獗所以我们才想请教说我们有没有更积极的做法我相信边形这个制度并不是现在世界上大多数国家所有的或许有一部分国家是有那我们是不是适合在这个时候来讨论边形不适合的理由是什么 |
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社會上還有一些討論對立的意見如果說現在80% 90%的人看到都是認為說我們需要用更強硬的態度詐騙生物痛覺本席也認同在場吳宗憲委員也在啊 |
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法律是對好人越好對壞人越壞我們就是要保護好人是就是保護好人所以嚴刑峻法並不是違反人權嚴刑峻法就是保護好人而且我們對犯罪者希望的是他經過一定的行動之後他不要再犯那是不是邊刑就會不要再犯邊刑完之後也可以不要再犯邊刑完之後讓他通知到說他更不要犯請法務部先去了解一下要不要做這個可行性兵覆 |
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法務部還要了解要不要做這個可行性評估所以這就是可行性評估之前的可行性評估先了解一下民意現在到底對這樣的支持來研究這個制度目前民意的制度你不覺得你現在是在搪塞國人嗎也是在搪塞本席我們是很務實在做我們很希望是說了解外交部那外交部能不能做剛剛講的這部分 |
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這不屬於外交部的主管業務請外交部跟新加坡政府了解一下說你們做的怎麼樣好不好有什麼樣的問題我們的總統院長講說用邊形可能會違反人權你們有沒有遇到這樣的困難這樣不行那外交部說不是他很責任 |
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如果在這裡跟委員討論兩公約那是另外一個層次我討論的是我們民間對邊形我知道有人在討論有人是贊成支持的就是因為本席上禮拜看到我不是無敵放矢 |
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本席是上禮拜看到新加坡已經要把納入詐騙變成邊形的一環我相信新加坡之前也做過很多討論跟功課也因此本席才會強調是說我們是不是透過外交管道來跟新加坡政府了解你們過去討論的狀況面臨到的問題以及你們怎麼說服國人 |
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那另外我們內部自己研究可行性評估推動會遭遇到哪些困難大家普遍的問題以及我們要所用的費用還有如果說真的實施之後會不會怕做個民調吧 |
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如果跟外交的管道我倒不如由法务部从检察官去做一些司法的协力那这个边形制度在新加坡实施之后他对在犯是不是完全的降低本席也建议我们的韩院长说是不是我们下一次的国会外交可以考虑前往新加坡 |
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我們邀請三黨的委員也一起前往由韓院長帶團我們到新加坡也去針對他們的住宅問題他們的都市計畫以及司法打詐的部分我們來去做一個研究雙管齊下啊但你不能今天如果說你今天要這樣子跟我們講的話我沒有拒絕委員的意思所以半年內提出來台灣實施邊形來嚇阻打擊詐騙 |
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甚至虐童案等部分讓這樣子的犯罪者得到應有的制裁可以吧請部長說這部分那委員寶貴的意見那我想這是一個聲音的確是那個行不行一句話半年因為我還有很多意見那我想說我們會廣大意見我們來研究它那個可行性的做一個評估 |
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所以部長是承諾了他要做可行性評估要廣納意見當然我們是要廣納意見玩文字遊戲是不是沒有 這個是因為一個法案尤其這一則這個不是我們刑法規定的一個刑法的方式就是因為不是所以我們才要謹慎也因此我們才希望是說由行政部門這邊來做一個可行性評估 |
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二次詐欺的一個猖獗我想我們很多的一個手段像我們那個詐偽條例我們現在也要再查一個修法我問你修法而且那個假設你越講就四分越多我們全部都在做了我不騙你你越講四分越多來院長 |
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成功的人找方法 失敗的人找藉口要不要做我們找好的方法來做半年內提出邊形的可行性評估行不行我們就算要直接修法 也要廣聽各界的意見沒錯 因此我才會說我沒有現在立即就要去提案但是我希望是行政部門 外交部門 司法部門提出可行性評估一句話 |
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剛剛部長講他會廣大意見來進行可信性評估的研議看能不能這個時候起一個什麼樣的程序才會進入到程序裡國人都看到了這就是我們行政院卓榮泰院長以及法務部外交部的態度再來院長因為問題比較多我們下一個議題其實討論就是韓院長也在國慶大典裡面都提到了就是希望台美的關稅談判越來越好我們都希望成功因為 |
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經濟好 台灣好 台灣人民才會幸福但是我們先看到有一個新聞讓我們非常遺憾大學生繳不出學費輕生那一萬八的學費一萬八千塊台幣換算美金六百元不到 |
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如果說我們一位20歲的學生因為繳不出600元美金的學費而選擇輕生的話我覺得這是大家都難過的事情這件事情凸顯什麼凸顯第一這個家庭他原本就是一個比較清喊的家庭第二學校的溝通聯繫沒有做好一萬八我相信一定還有很多管道有地方政府有中央政府的補助的部分那這樣子一個狀況 |
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容許發生嗎可是確實已經發生了五天前院長 |
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要不要說一下對這件事情的態度覺得很遺憾跟惋惜一個年輕的生命就這樣失去了但是政府在這個方面有做到相當多的措施也許我們在宣導在學校的主動關懷如果說真的有做到相當多的措施的話就不會發生這樣的憾事因為至少我們還有學貸我們還有每年還有三萬五千元的私立學校的補助等等對親韓的我們還會加碼還會讓這樣的事情發生嗎所以可能在學校的主動關懷的還會讓這樣的事情發生嗎 |
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那這個部分請教育部來部長你會後給我書面報告因為我還有另外的問題好不好會後給我另外的書面報告因為我要完整的了解教育部未來可以怎麼做我們也充電了全校在整個 |
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部長我的時間有限會後給我另外書面報告因為我還有其他議題可以沒有問題我們事實上對這個事跟委員的心情是一樣的提出來是說經濟很重要 莫忘世上苦人多那一樣剛剛下一位蔡時昌委員也質詢到台美關稅而造成中小企業都非常的辛苦那我們看到副總統有講了承諾在美投資不只台積電還包括整個生態系 |
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但昨天經濟委員會在開會的時候國發會主委居然一問三不知國發會主委居然講的是說事情不知情不管是台積電要去美國還是生態系要去美國那國人只想問一句話生態系到底包括多大範圍 |
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所謂生態系當然是包括垂直供應鏈跟他的協力廠商都是整個生態系所以是全部都要過去所以全部都要過去我們承諾美國投資全部都要過去不然怎麼會我們的副總統會講是說我們上一張簡報 |
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不只台積電 我們承諾在美投資還包括整個生態系上下游 資源服務 人才培育全部都過去不是過去啦 是力量的延伸啦在那邊 本來在台灣就會立足台灣那因為 就廠商而言你到海外去全球佈局的話一定第一個要有訂單嘛第二個要可以賺錢院長 我們現在都是看到浪利的狀況但是我們台灣的談判到底我們獲得了什麼 |
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到目前為止還是持續沒有辦法看到那雙方談判已經到最後這個階段了什麼時間點談判會有一個技術性的問題有進行相當的磋商那最後要有一個總結會議總結會議預計會在什麼時候那總結會議之前還要做很多文書的交換總結會議預計會在什麼時候 |
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這個我們期待是儘快的時間讓國內的產業能夠安定下來院長有沒有注意到另外一個國際上的新聞是現在有可能川習會預計在這個月底是川普跟習近平要見面美中兩大強權而川普在昨天晚上被問到說川習會的時候就已經有講到是說台灣議題會是討論之一 |
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那如果說我們現在都還持續溝通討論會不會影響在十月底的所謂的川習會我們的最終談判到底是會在十月底還是我們可以撐過十月底還是我們現在是變成是哪一個人的籌碼院長美中兩國之間有這個千絲萬縷的關係跟談判的內容 |
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那台灣跟美國同樣站在世界AI關鍵領先地位這個角色不論是台灣協助美國或是台灣一起跟美國一起再壯大起來我也相信川普總統即使跟習主席在見面的時候應該站在美國台灣跟世界共同利益的角度上你覺得川普總統見面的時候會把美國跟台灣綁在一起還有世界共同利益 |
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這是你覺得你猜測你樂觀的想法還是你有什麼樣的情誌可以佐證你的說法我相信世界共同利益包括經濟的利益包括民主政治的利益包括地緣關係的利益有沒有具體在談判的過程裡面有討論到台灣如果說川普你要去跟習近平講 |
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台灣的利益你要怎麼樣守護我們從歷屆這麼多時間以來多位美方的重要官員跟川普總統講話當中我們可以看到剛剛說的世界共同利益 經濟利益跟民主的利益都有在他們談話當中那我現在當然不能去界定美中兩國談判要談什麼內容但我相信如果提到台灣應該要站在世界共同利益那川普總統已經講了台灣議題會是討論的重點之一只是他不想跟記者宣布 |
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那我們有沒有透過外交管道或是其他管道馬上去了解說那到底川普總統所謂的台灣議題會是什麼目前沒掌握所以你不能講我們有什麼管道沒有什麼管道嗎外交部長就在你旁邊啊你的管道不就是外交部長嗎報告委員不管跟AIT或跟我們駐美代表處都有很密切跟美國政府表示聯繫中院長 |
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看起來這一題也是無解啦不過本席真的由衷的希望站在中華民國的立場好好的捍衛兩千三百五十萬人的權益是啊剛剛講過的世界的利益台灣美國共同的利益就是這個立場啊來兩位部長請回李陽部長麻煩您麻煩請運動部長再來討論本席先講喔剛剛蔡吉山委員有提到所謂的台灣棒球博物館這是本席在運動部組織發展法的時候討論 |
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組織法的時候就已經正式提案成為但書運動部要成立就要籌備台灣運動博物館也獲得立院三讀通過所以部長這個不是一個選項這是一個必要之作推動的事情這我希望部長能夠了解不過部長我比較想要跟您探討了解的是足協的問題10月14號中華男竹 |
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輸給了泰國1比6分數多少其實說實在話運動有輸有贏有輸過沒怕過但我們不能輸給的是自己人在這一次10月14號打完之後我們看到男足訓練是吃便當是在河濱公園球場來練習不是專業的場館 |
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住泰國是住1000塊的快捷旅店沒有健身房說穿了那就是一個商務旅館只能睡覺沒有任何的訓練甚至回家想要泡個澡可能都沒有浴缸球員的球衣還沒有名字那這些都是過去累積下來的惡習本期有看到李洋部長講說嚴重警訊那我現在只想要請教部長 |
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怎麼做來改革這是國人給你的期待各位30秒具體的講出你要怎麼改革主席關於協會的部分關於我們其實我身為運動員剛退役沒多久其實我們一直知道我們運動員的聲音很不容易會傳到協會所以我們已經針對運動員做了明年會有運動員委員會那我們希望運動員的聲音可以傳遞到運動員委員會會把各單項納入 |
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各單項的協會都有運動員委員會那過往是用指定理事長指派那我們用選舉的方法我們作為讓運動員去選舉所以我可以理解就像是各單項都會有類似球員公會的概念運動員委員會嘛就是他是運動員會員推選出來變成一個理事長運動員會有運動員委員會他會有運動員自己推選出他自己運動員的但是各單項都有 |
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所以棒球協會有棒球運動員委員會籃球協會有籃球運動員委員會足球協會有足球運動員委員會對那運作的方式資金他們半年會召開至少召開一次會議然後提供想法跟建議然後由我們運動部同時去了解到這樣本席記得這也是我們之前在教育文化委員會裡面正式立法通過但本席更希望的是 |
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我們看到怎麼樣因為即便成立就像現在勞資雙方也會有很不對等的地方資方總是比較強勢勞方總是比較弱勢所以運動部站在運動天平的兩端就是要幫忙勞資雙方來取得一個平衡那我現在想問的是說除邪這樣子的一個長久下來的惡習甚至現在我們看到 |
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在公眾政策平台裡面也有人提案落實全民參與督促逐協的財務其實很簡單啦財務先公開透明你資方就比較難有任何上下其手的地方 |
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過去有發生什麼便當發票一次隨便報然後我們還是給他核銷那這樣子的一個狀況能不能改善委員報告我們目前會有兩年一次的財務查核那當然在協會的部分你講都是現況嘛 |
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但就是因為現況下來長久累積還會有那麼多的問題所以我們才希望看到新人新氣象的部長改善那我們也希望用足協這個案例讓更多協會了解到全民都對運動協會這件事情非常在意那當然關於財務的部分我們希望說他們能夠做到公平公正公開聽起來是很好的說詞但是具體怎麼做部長 |
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本席現在不是要讓你練口才跟演講比賽但你可不可以告訴本席以及關心運動的所有朋友你具體怎麼做當然在關於查核這部分我們有請我們競技師去做相關的做法那當然在協會這部分我們一定是作為我們最重要的任務之一 |
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院長滿意剛剛部長的答詢嗎委員您跟我都不是運動選手所以我們對運動有高度的關心興趣是期許但李部長他自己是運動選手他最知道怎麼做他只要做出來給大家看我請求大家支持來部長我不為難你你會後提供本席相關你願意具體怎麼做的報告可以嗎 |
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我只求一件事我希望我們的足球也好我們的運動也好每一個不一定我們馬上短期內可以中華隊打進世界盃我覺得那還是有點距離但是我們至少可以是讓我們的球迷大聲的呼喊大聲的支持讓我們的球隊在去比賽的時候可以很驕傲的 |
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就像棒球迷就像羽球迷去為林陽沛加油的時候我們很驕傲的拿出我們的國旗我也希望我們的選手能夠很驕傲的站上戰場即便輸我們也是很驕傲的挺直中黨離開戰場這樣可以嗎公委員您報告那所有改革都需要時間那我們當然希望運動部今年成立我們希望說會最對協會的部分會做出改善 |
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好謝謝部長來院長最後3分鐘本席再來討論地方議題淡江大橋你也來看過是明年5月12號會正式完工那通車大家都很期待但是隨著淡江大橋通車淡海科學城的發展才是重中之重來淡海科學城賴清德總統的政見那時候說新北123那淡海科學城現在 |
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現在進度我們再了解一下淡海科學城目前的進度不在院裡面我沒有提供幕僚作業說我會問什麼問題你就沒有辦法回答我現在說手上沒有淡海科學城部長 院長淡海科學城內政部這跟交通部真的比較沒有直接關係所以其實交通部站起來然後內政部到現在還坐在那邊不動我也覺得很訝異麻煩請內政部長備選 |
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國土署做淡海新市鎮二期的開發而其中國土署有發函給國發會有發函給經濟部要求國發會經濟部跟地方政府共同來討論我們怎麼樣來做淡海科學城這是賴清德總統兩年多前在競選總統時候的政見 |
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1769.075 |
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就我現在好像講了之後跟中央部會沒有半點關係內政部不知道 經濟部不知道 國防會不知道請內政部來說明目前有沒有相關進度院長 如果說您是我你可以接受官員是這種態度嗎 |
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1794.999 |
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我自己會先了解清楚我了解了就是我那麼了解結果你完全不清楚所以我才想要問你說如果你是我你可以接受官員這種態度嗎我現在手上真的沒有淡海科學的進度看內政部來說明那您覺得淡海科學層重不重要一定重要嘛如果我們在未來發展AI是不是過去就變成說其實過去沒有討論到科技均衡發展是均衡台灣重要的一環 |
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1796.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1821.343 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
院長我具體建議好不好您能不能因為科學層真的很重要我覺得內政部的態度或是說他的速度真的讓國人沒有那麼大的期待尤其明年淡江大橋五月就要通車了能不能只派一個政委來統合內政部經濟部國發會針對淡海科學層這也是賴清德總統的政見我們幫賴清德總統兌現支票可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1822.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1846.389 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
因為內政部還沒有來說明過如果這個科學層的部分當然是國科會的政委內政部還沒有討論到這個案子那拜託我們不要讓淡水人覺得我們比較適合法委員我想您誤會了不是內政部沒有討論這個案子你當官院長就講說內政部沒有報告過嘛所以我說那能不能取一個政委針對相關比較經濟專長的政委我們來專案研究這個案子院長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1857.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1858.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
未來你找國科會主委我找哪一位國科會主委未來我就對著你國科會主委現在都給經濟部了 |
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1899.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1901.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
好 謝謝洪文凱委員質詢謝謝卓院長 相關部會所長備詢 謝謝 |