| IVOD_ID |
164445 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/164445 |
| 日期 |
2025-10-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-36,22-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-10-20T12:43:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-10-20T12:51:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/03f010abd9bb8d1b0bfbc13bf818ae386d84cc432149c84b83c966d97180d5d2b79a220842b8dbde5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:43:50 - 12:51:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-10-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制、教育及文化委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查
（一）委員賴士葆等20人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）國民黨黨團擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員賴士葆等29人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條及第三十八條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員柯志恩等18人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員許宇甄等21人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員黃健豪等20人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員張智倫等19人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例部分條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員葉元之等20人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「公立學校教職員退休資遣撫卹條例第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
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處長好 在問公教年金是否停侃的問題之前我想先問一個看起來不是全序部主管但事實上和年金停侃有絕對相關的問題我想請問全序部 以限制來說勞保何時會破產 基金何時會歸零 |
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勞保部我沒有研究不知道你當然不知道啦 我告訴你啦我告訴你答案好不好我告訴你答案啦勞保不會破產基金也不會歸零啦你知道為什麼嗎市長你知道為什麼嗎你不知道啊 我告訴你啊因為政府已經公開保證會對勞保負起最終支付責任我們的前勞動部長還說撥補就是改革撥補是不是改革 請問市長 |
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撥補列為改革 這個當然可以有很多不同的面向來問你的面向 全序部的面向撥補是不是改革應該是這樣講 撥補也是增加我們基金來源的一部分 |
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來來來我跟你講勞保不斷虧損你知道為了穩定勞保財務政府從民國109年開始透過總預算跟特別條例來撥補7年來撥補勞保基金多少錢來穩定勞保基金的水位 |
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你還是不知道對啊 5170億而且撥補的金額越來越大109年200億逐年跳增113年1200億今年1200億115年也是1200億好 我就要回頭來問年金停侃的問題啊權敘部反對停侃年金嘛 對不對所得替代率嘛 對不對最主要理由是什麼一個啦 我直接講啦 |
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不繼續砍下去不把軍工叫砍死基金會提前歸零是不是應該這樣講就是說如果我們停止那個那個那個往下所得價降我們基金大概會未來到118年大概我們會減少收入大概提前多少提前多久歸零你們講的兩千七百多億兩年嘛對不對接近到四年一二九年左右兩年到四年嘛對不對所以來啊 |
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我支持政府對勞保承諾最終支付責任我也支持政府對勞保撥補但我想問你三個為什麼為什麼勞保政府可以撥補公教年金停侃政府就不能撥補為什麼勞保可以撥補公教年金停侃政府不能撥補 |
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我們也都有在爭取撥補啊非常好啊 你好好爭取嘛那你主張什麼停砍年金 不反對 為什麼反對你爭取好撥補就不用反對啦你說剛說的喔 你說在爭取撥補啊我也請我們今天偉大民進黨政府啊全區部都說要撥補啊 趕快撥補還在找藉口說停砍年金 不可以第二個 為什麼勞保政府可以保證最終支付責任公教年金停砍 政府就不能保證最終支付責任 |
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可不可以保證最終自負責任 請我們目前法律上就是這樣規定 非常好既然這樣子的話 你還跟我講破產歸零還在威脅大家發不出退休金但是你那個最後就要全部大家一起來 你的邏輯你自己都不要整理一下邏輯根本錯亂嘛來 那為什麼我們政府保證勞保不會破產 你剛才也講啦不會破產嘛 對不對 |
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我們的公教年金不會破產嗎不會破產啊你剛剛都講可以撥補啊負最終自負責任啊那怕什麼破產還是要修正一下沒有喔 並沒有喔我跟你講 次長今天是我質詢全序部啊我最滿意的一天你第一個告訴我說可以撥補我謝謝你 你在爭取撥補我請那無良的民進黨聽進次長這句話爭取撥補 |
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那你說 就是政府會付最終支付責任啊你撥補完 你就不用擔心破產問題啊有沒有歸零的問題啊跟淘寶基金一樣啊我直接告訴你啦市長 你還有同理心啦可是我們的民進黨政府賴清德總統就是瞧不起軍人瞧不起公教 瞧不起警消就是要欺負軍人 欺負公教 欺負警消 |
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國民黨跟羅志強跟我們翁小林主席我們一路的挺軍人挺公教挺警消但我很難過看著一個政府賴清德民進黨一路的踩軍人踩公教踩警消這我最難過的事情我都還沒講台電撥補 |
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為了要讓綠油油賺大錢對不對錯誤的能源政策搞得今天台電虧損連連撥補3000億都不夠虧損還有將近5000億阿你怎麼不說台電會打 |
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因為綠油有中藥嘛所以直接拿軍公教開刀就是現在民進黨政府的做法最後我要跟你講啦我們的公教人員也沒有多麼了不起奢侈的要求他要求不過是停砍有要求回到2018年嗎 有嗎 有沒有我們的年金提案有要求回到2018年嗎 有沒有沒有嘛從一開始砍5% 接下來逐年1.5%請問現在已經砍多少了 |
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從今年應該是到68.5累積起來砍多少了累積起來大概剩68嘛 對不對對 68.5我告訴你啊 次長 |
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現在軍公教 我們的公教人員你把他血跟肉都砍光了他今天也不是沒有體諒到今天國家財政問題他只是卑微的請求你骨跟筋不要斷掉它嘛這才是今天為什麼要提出停砍年金我還沒講後面 最後很快結論我們的 |
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軍工教是我們經濟發展國家安全跟社會穩定的最大基石現在你也知道老師找不到以前老師搶破頭但老師找不到公務人員報考人數可以從52萬直接掉到16萬少了七成你沒有辦法吸引好的人才請問怎麼去支撐政府的運作所以拜託高台貴手今天我也很開心今天市長告訴大家你會爭取撥補 |
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就好好爭取波姆不要再阻攔停坦年金的一個我們的這個改革了拜託留給我們的軍公教留給我們公教人員一條生路謝謝 |